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    I think at first they were singling out the biggest spenders to not get sales, but they seemed to let up on that within a week or so.... I feel like several of our big spenders reported that they had gotten at least one sale.

    Though, it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if people regularly spend a lot of money on gems when they aren't on sale have accounts that are programmed to get less sales (if not none like Evi). This, like so many other things that TL has done, is sickening, but totally expected. They are relying on the fact that many of their players never read the forums to make this work. Unlike going to the store, if you play this game in isolation, you can easily not realize that other people are being offered sales when you aren't. And I'm sure there are many players that are big spenders that aren't getting sales, but still happily buying away because they haven't seen the forum realized what's going on. What a deceitful and unnecessary way to make money, TL. And if this isn't what's going on, prove it by giving EVERY player a sale. We know you can do it.

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    Maybe they target ppl who haven't bought gems before, or at least more often. I'm using an iPad and there's a sale for me right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TokiChunsa View Post
    Maybe they target ppl who haven't bought gems before, or at least more often
    That makes sense. I have got my 2nd gem sale in 3 days and I don't buy that often.

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    I've had a lot of sales come up but I've bought a gem pack once. My biggest spending is on those 'not so value packs'
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    That doesn't make sense to me, guys, because I buy gems on sale every now and again (like, once every two/three weeks) and I get regular sales.

    My Ipod touch that I only use to send gems gets sales regularly as well and I NEVER ONCE have bought gems off of that one. I don't think they're targeting those that have or have never bought gems, to be honest. Maybe if someone opened a new account and kept track of it we might get better insight on if new users that are just signing up are being omitted or not, but that would require 20+ players opening up new accounts to get any accurate data.

    What seems more likely (to me, at least) is that some users are not getting any sales if they spend on gems much more frequently (like Evi who is a whale). Perhaps they're targeting most of the whales but are adding in a few 'random' users that don't spend at all or very much as cover when targeting whales. Deniability and all that.

    ... But, again, this is all speculation. We won't know for sure until TL officially responds to this thread explaining why a good chunk of users aren't getting sales at all or very often and what the justification for that is. Let's just hope it's not another response amounting to: "We're looking into it, but for now sales are all based on random selection, etc." The better question should be: Why the heck are sale offers even random in the first place if FFS isn't advertised as a lottery?

    I don't think anyone's asked that question or gotten a response to it as of yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArcadiaTofu View Post
    That doesn't make sense to me, guys, because I buy gems on sale every now and again (like, once every two/three weeks) and I get regular sales.

    My Ipod touch that I only use to send gems gets sales regularly as well and I NEVER ONCE have bought gems off of that one. I don't think they're targeting those that have or have never bought gems, to be honest. Maybe if someone opened a new account and kept track of it we might get better insight on if new users that are just signing up are being omitted or not, but that would require 20+ players opening up new accounts to get any accurate data.

    What seems more likely (to me, at least) is that some users are not getting any sales if they spend on gems much more frequently (like Evi who is a whale). Perhaps they're targeting most of the whales but are adding in a few 'random' users that don't spend at all or very much as cover when targeting whales. Deniability and all that.

    ... But, again, this is all speculation. We won't know for sure until TL officially responds to this thread explaining why a good chunk of users aren't getting sales at all or very often and what the justification for that is. Let's just hope it's not another response amounting to: "We're looking into it, but for now sales are all based on random selection, etc." The better question should be: Why the heck are sale offers even random in the first place if FFS isn't advertised as a lottery?

    I don't think anyone's asked that question or gotten a response to it as of yet.
    Seriously, when can we have a response from TL ??????

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    I have played this game since it started, I never had a sale....until....very recently! I'd say within the last three weeks, and I did buy a small package of gems. And now I have another sale. I never would have bought unless there was a sale. So I was waiting patiently.
    On DS I have a sale twice a week, as well as castle story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dawntilldusk25 View Post
    I have played this game since it started, I never had a sale....until....very recently! I'd say within the last three weeks, and I did buy a small package of gems. And now I have another sale. I never would have bought unless there was a sale. So I was waiting patiently.
    On DS I have a sale twice a week, as well as castle story.
    They only began the sales in FFS two months ago. From when the game was released last July, until the end of this February, they did not have any random sales. So it's only possible to have gotten them recently.

    Since they began the sales, I get one on average once a week. I bought from the sale early on. Before that, I had not bought gems in a few months. And lo and behold, suddenly in the last 38 days I have only been able to breed one single new animal. It's as though the game has a tag in the code for whether one has recently purchased gems and if so, the odds of breeding anything new are significantly less... as though the game says "you have gems - so if you want the animal, you must spend them all - you are not allowed to hold onto them for a rainy day." It could just be perception, but 38 days is a LONG time for someone breeding on average 3-4 times a day to come up with only ONE new animal. That is incredibly bad luck - "incredible" literally meaning not credible. And the last bad "luck" streak I had was also when I had recently bought gems I was trying to conserve.

    I guess I might as well just blow the gems I as conserving as my last hurrah for this game. If they earn me the space collection, maybe I'll keep playing. But I just really, really, really dislike being so manipulated.

  9. #19
    I mentioned in another thread about gem sales that I have 2 accounts and played each one the same way. One is on my iPad and one is on my iPhone. When I would buy gems, I would buy them for both. I've been playing since the first week in Aug and though I don't have a lot of ultras, I do have a unicorn on both and a citrine on the one that never gets gem sales. I have most of the animals - got all of the event ones, tournament ones and until the Palmeranian all of the limited ones on both. I also have bought the Toucan and Golden Retriever for both accounts. So I can't really figure out why one account gets several sales every week and the other one never gets them. I even switched the accounts between the devices and nothing changed.

    But I will say that I've decided to stop playing the account that never gets a sale - even though it has a citrine. I am that frustrated. I'm just going to install the one account on both devices.

    So, TeamLava, I can't figure out your business model because there is no discernible logic to it - you're setting yourself up to lose sales and customers. But I guess I'll be saving some money in the future.

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