Yeah, I know im odd in that im wearing flip flops when its about 40 degrees here in Texas, but the shorts take the cake. This seems like something that was supposed to come out months ago, but everyone is preparing for thankgiving, so they threw it at us. I doubt anything regarding camping/hiking could interest me. Unless there is some super gnarly looking tennis shoe stand. Someone mentioned regretting not getting that victorian boot stand and Im also one of them.