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    Here's a better picture of plots E & F (shales only)

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    Plot E:

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    1000000$?! Yikes! And thank you sand ^^ I did look at pg8. It's good they're a set mill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zenobia42 View Post
    EDIT: Here is the list I am putting together of the hidden cost for expansions once you have unearthed (pun intended) the mine. Because they get VERY expensive, I thought people who scrimped and saved and bombed to get expansions might find it helpful to know which have more or less "Hidden Costs" than the others to make actually usable.

    Thanks to igames4me for the image I used to make this chart. Following are all the "Hidden Costs" (in coins) for expansion:
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    Island 1, after expanding to the mine:
    1. Sinkstones: 18,000
    2. Siphoning Cypress: 30,000
    3. Toxic Sycamores: 45,000
    4. Poisonous Pumice: 90,00
    5. Wicked Thicket: 100,000
    6. Immovable Rock 180,000


    Island 2:
    1) Various obstacles totaling 27,500
    2) Various obstacles totaling 55,000
    3) Various obstacles totaling 80,000
    4) Radiating Rock 100,000
    5) Unlock electric animals and habitats, receive "free" Lightning Leopard and Electric Enclave on that square.
    6) Burdening Birches (25:00): 90,000
    7) 1,250 + 2,000 + 25,000 obstacles + Radiating Rock (100,000 2x2 and 21:40) = 128,250
    8) 100,000 rock + 250,000 Fail Shale (33:20) = 350,000
    9) Harmful Hemlocks (33:20): 450,000
    10) 2 Fail Shales = 500,000
    11) 2 Fail Shales + 1 Radiating Rock. Total = 600,000
    12) 1 Fail Shale + 1 Harmful Hemlocks. Total = 700,000
    13) 1 Frozen Fir (25,000) + 3 Fail Shales (250,000). Total = 775,000.
    Expanding to 13 opens the first square of Island 3 (A on my legend map).



    Island 3:
    A) 1 Radiating Rock (100,000 2x2) + 3 Fail Shales (250,000). Total = 850,000
    B) 1 Harmful Hemlock + at least 2 Fail Shales. Total = at least 950,000
    C) 4 Fail Shales (250,000 each) + assorted shrubbery = a little over 1,000,000
    D) 2 Radiating Rocks + 4 Fail Shales. Total = 1,200,000.
    E) 5 Fail Shales + 3 Frozen Firs. Total = 1,325,000.
    F) 6 Fail Shales + 2 mushy bushes + 1 frozen fir. Total = 1,527,500.
    G) 3 Fail Shales + 1 Harmful Hemlock. Total = 1,200,000.
    H) 4 Fail Shales + 2 Frozen Firs + 2 Seeping Cedars. Total = 1,055,000.
    To expand the cheapest to most expensive on Island 3, use this order: A - B - C - H - DorG - DorG - E - F... pending confirmation B is in fact < C.

    [NOTE: I Revised the island 2&3 map legend to make it more comprehensible. On island 2, the expansions are numbered in order from cheapest path to the leopard, then cheapest to most expensive of the rest.]
    Thanks to SANDScape, Anyuszko, Petasos and cquinn32 for info on the expansions beyond the lightning leopard square.
    I will continue to update (and correct if necessary!) as folks provide more info.
    OP updated. Once we get confirmation on the total cost of plot B (depending on if anything was hiding behind the hemlocks or not), I can change the lettering to reflect the cheapest path.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zenobia42 View Post
    OP updated. Once we get confirmation on the total cost of plot B (depending on if anything was hiding behind the hemlocks or not), I can change the lettering to reflect the cheapest path.
    I Can Tell you in about 10 hours. I was asking Sand to post it, coz i saw his plot is cleared, but maybe he missed it and not replied. I am clearing the hemlock, will be ready in 10 hrs.
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    So, there is nothing behind the hemlock, total price is .95m.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zenobia42 View Post
    OP updated. Once we get confirmation on the total cost of plot B (depending on if anything was hiding behind the hemlocks or not), I can change the lettering to reflect the cheapest path.
    Sorry, by the time I got around to clearing Plot B, I had forgotten about that mystery. But I still have no idea how they managed to put both a Fail Shale AND Harmful Hemlocks in the same 3x3 portion of the plot if the Harmful Hemlocks take up 9 squares. The other 7 squares were accounted for. Weird.
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    Here is the pic again. With a Fail Shale at front left and front right, I thought the Harmful Hemlocks must be 2 squares wide.
    That's what made me conclude something was behind them because I could place no decorative trees back there. But the cluster is actually 3x3, so that Fail Shale to the left is actually sitting on a square already occupied by the Harmful Hemlocks.
    It's perfectly okay to NOT know something; and one is no less worthy for admitting this. The wisest seeker is she who knows that she knows nothing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SANDSCApe View Post
    Here is the pic again. With a Fail Shale at front left and front right, I thought the Harmful Hemlocks must be 2 squares wide.
    That's what made me conclude something was behind them because I could place no decorative trees back there. But the cluster is actually 3x3, so that Fail Shale to the left is actually sitting on a square already occupied by the Harmful Hemlocks.
    That's kind messed up lol. Thanks for explaining the cost even if the game's placement is unexplainable.

    Okay, folks, I am updating the OP hopefully for the last time until they open another island. Anyone reading back and confused as to what is B and what is F in these discussions, the confusion is because I am now re-lettering island 3 in the cheapest to most expensive order. So anyone finding this forum and just reading the OP has an easy time of it. Or anyone remembering this post and just going to the OP to find the cheapest next expansion. Though cheapest doesn't seem the best word when expanding plus clearing costs more than 2 million coins. So it's about finding the least obscenely priced next expansion lol.

    ETA: done! Hope everyone finds it helpful.
    Last edited by zenobia42; 09-19-14 at 07:27 PM.

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    Zenobia, you did such a good job on exposing TL's dirty secrets ( expansion costs, how to beat the tournaments etc), that TL decided to lower your odds on you getting the unicorn, just so they can piss you off. Now if I'm wrong, you'll get a unicorn this coming week.

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