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starship412
04-21-17, 10:54 AM
36581
Rarity: Super Rare
Type: Elemental Yellow Red
Habitat: Elemental Plane, Yellow Plateau, Red Rocks
Available at: Level 32
Buying Price: 1,500 Gold
Selling Price: 100 Coin
Incubation: 21 hours
Exp Gained: 975 Exp

Dragon Battles

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Level 32 is the minimum level for Battle Tournaments
Level 15 is the minimum level for the Battle Arena

Type advantages


Enemy Type

Use

Avoid Using



Red

Yellow, Blue, Stone, Tropic, Champion

Green, Dino, Zodiac, Metal, Soccer



Green

Red, Mythic, Dino, Gemstone, Royal, Champion, Soccer

Purple, Black, Stone



Yellow

Pink, Black, Cosmic, Zodiac, Champion

Red, Blue, Gold



Blue

Yellow, Purple, Rainbow, Gemstone, Champion, Metal

Red, White, Stone



Purple

Green, Pink, Gold, Zodiac, Royal, Champion

Blue, White, Cosmic, Soccer



White

Blue, Purple, Stone, Rainbow, Champion, Egypt, Soccer

Black, Mythic, Cosmic, Royal



Pink

Black, Gold, Fairytale, Gemstone, Champion, Soccer

Yellow, Purple, Mythic, Royal



Black

Green, White, Cosmic, Rainbow, Royal, Champion, Egypt

Yellow, Pink, Fairytale, Gemstone



Diamond

Diamond

Gold, Gemstone, Metal



Mythic

White, Pink, Fairytale, Dino, Champion

Green, Rainbow, Zodiac, Tropic, Egypt



Cosmic

Purple, White, Champion

Yellow, Black, Fairytale, Zodiac



Gold

Yellow, Diamond, Champion, Metal, Soccer

Purple, Pink, Rainbow, Royal, Egypt



Fairytale

Black, Cosmic, Zodiac, Royal, Champion, Soccer

Pink, Mythic, Rainbow, Tropic



Stone

Green, Blue, Tropic, Royal, Champion, Egypt

Red, White, Dino



Dino

Red, Stone, Tropic, Champion

Green, Cosmic, Gemstone, Soccer



Rainbow

Mythic, Gold, Fairytale, Champion

Blue, White, Black, Tropic, Metal



Gemstone

Diamond, Black, Dino, Champion

Green, Blue, Pink, Royal



Zodiac

Red, Mythic, Cosmic, Champion, Metal

Yellow, Purple, Fairytale, Soccer



Tropic

Mythic, Fairytale, Rainbow, Champion

Red, Stone, Dino



Royal

White, Pink, Gold, Gemstone, Champion

Green, Purple, Black, Stone, Fairytale, Egypt



Ice Age

Abominable, Champion

Blizzard



Abominable

Blizzard, Champion

Ice Age



Blizzard

Ice Age, Champion

Abominable



Champion

Type has no effect here

Red, Green, Yellow, Blue, Purple, White, Pink, Black, Mythic, Cosmic, Gold, Fairytale, Stone, Dino, Rainbow, Gemstone, Zodiac, Tropic, Royal, Ice Age, Abominable, Blizzard, Champion



Valentine

Type has no effect here

Type has no effect here



Metal

Red, Diamond, Rainbow

Blue, Gold, Zodiac



Egypt

Mythic, Gold, Royal

White, Black, Stone



Soccer

Red, Purple

Green, White, Pink, Gold, Fairytale



Olympus

Type has no effect here

Type has no effect here





Additional info about champ and dark/corrupt types...




Enemy Type



Use



Avoid using



Champion

The following types are "neutral" to champion types: Diamond, Egypt, Metal, Olympus, Soccer, Valentine

**Users have reported that low level dragons are sometimes useful against high level champs

Black, Blue, Champion, Cosmic, Dino, Fairytale, Gemstone, Gold, Green, Mythic, Pink, Purple, Rainbow, Red, Royal, Stone, Tropic, White, Yellow, Zodiac



Dark (corrupt)

Unknown; some have success with champs & white types (Corrupt dragons use black "smoke" magic; consider dragons that are strong against black types: green, white, cosmic, rainbow, royal, champion, Egypt)

Unknown (Corrupt dragons use black "smoke" magic; consider avoiding dragons that are weak against black types: yellow, pink, fairytale, gemstone)

katali119
04-21-17, 11:03 AM
1 Quicksand 1 > Avatar (6) B
2 Playful 2 > Social (4) bmB {Water (4) lost}
3 Tiger's Eye 2 > Centurion (5) B
4 Cornucopia 3 > Magma (4) B
5 Goldleaf 4 > Centurion bmB
6 Sunshine 4 > Triple Rainbow (3) Bb
7 Surprise 5 > Triple Rainbow B
8 Quicksand 6 > Lacewing (4) B
9 Honeycomb 7 > Afterlife (13) B
10 Skeletal Knight 11 > Passion (15) bmB
11 Icebreaker 8 > Ambassador (10) Bb
12 Tulip 10 > Afterlife bmB
13 Ironbark 11 > Lost Love (13) B
14 Guardian Angel 13 > Passion bM
15 Overgrowth 14 > Diamond (15) B
16 Prize Fighter 17 > Diamond {Passion lost}
17 Geode 15 > Marshmallow (15) Bm
18 Jack O' 15 > Marshmallow B
19 Playful 16 > Lost Love B {Marshmallow lost}
20 Quicksand 19 > Marshmallow bM
21 Birthstone 14 > Diamond B
22 Hearth 15 > Huntress (10) bmB
23 Harmony Knight 20 > Passion {Diamond lost}
24 Supreme 18 > Diamond bM
25 Dark Naga 18 > Afterlife Bm
26 Pyramid 19 > Marshmallow bmB {Diamond lost}
27 Killerwhale 19 > Passion bM
28 Eve 20 > Afterlife bM
29 Warden 20 > Passion mB
30 Prime Magic 20 > Harmony Knight (1) bmB
31 Porcelain 20 > Triple Rainbow (4) bM
32 Mage 20 > Marshmallow B
33 Sweet Tooth 20 > Centurion (5) Bm
34 Imp 20 > Huntress (10) bM
35 Spelunking 20 > Marshmallow bmB
36 Spartan 20 > Passion bMb
37 Phantom 20 > Marshmallow Bb
38 Pastel 20 > Huntress bM
39 Stalwart 20 > Passion Bbm
40 Quicksand 20 > Marshmallow bM

Woo done! I send you all my luck :)

lenasdinner
04-21-17, 11:22 AM
7 champions waiting for us....hell yeaa:(

jbyn4e
04-21-17, 11:26 AM
Another one...

enemy
-------------------- secondary account (L149)
-------------------- main account (L164)
1 Quicksand 1
-------------------- Behemoth7 B
-------------------- Ambassador7 bB
2 Playful 2
-------------------- Clown7 bB
-------------------- Ambassador7 bB
3 Tiger's Eye 2
-------------------- Aries7 B
-------------------- Gemini7 bB
4 Cornucopia 3
-------------------- Firestorm8 B
-------------------- Butterfly8 bB
5 Goldleaf 4
-------------------- Firestorm10 bB
-------------------- Firestorm10 B
6 Sunshine 4
-------------------- Plum blossom10 B
-------------------- Sultana10 bB
7 Surprise 5
-------------------- Lotus10 bBb
-------------------- Lotus10 B
8 Quicksand 6
-------------------- Clown13 B
-------------------- Surprise13 B (lost: Clown11 bbb - I hate when same dragon lose)
9 Honeycomb 7
-------------------- Ranger11 B
-------------------- Adventure12 Bb
10 Skeletal Knight 11
-------------------- Diamond15 bBb
-------------------- Diamond15 B
11 Icebreaker 8
-------------------- Clown13 bBb
-------------------- Beast10 bB
12 Tulip 10
-------------------- Landworm12 bB
-------------------- Landworm11 bbB
13 Ironbark 11
-------------------- Lord of light10 B
-------------------- Jack12 bB
14 Guardian Angel 13
-------------------- Diamond15 bbB
-------------------- Diamond15 Bb
15 Overgrowth 14
-------------------- Bundled13 B
-------------------- Bundled13 bbB
16 Prize Fighter 17
-------------------- Metal15 Bb
-------------------- Metal15 Bb
17 Geode 15
-------------------- Apprentice13 Bb
-------------------- Glasswing14 B (lost: Apprentice14 bbb - I hate when same dragon lose)
18 Jack O' 15
-------------------- Prize fighter15 bB
-------------------- Immortal15 Bbb
19 Playful 16
-------------------- Bundled13 bB
-------------------- Bundled13 bB
20 Quicksand 19
-------------------- Chronicler14 B
-------------------- Chronicler14 B
21 Birthstone 14
-------------------- Diamond15 bbB
-------------------- Diamond15 B
22 Hearth 15
-------------------- Prize fighter15 bbB (lost: Chronicler14 bbb)
-------------------- Immortal15 bB
23 Harmony Knight 20
-------------------- Metal15 Bb
-------------------- Metal15 B (lost: Metal15 bbb)
24 Supreme 18
-------------------- Prize fighter15 bB
-------------------- Immortal15 Bb
25 Dark Naga 18
-------------------- Landworm12 bBb
-------------------- Glasswing14 B (lost: Landworm11 bbb - I hate when same dragon lose)
26 Pyramid 19
-------------------- Clown13 B
-------------------- Curio14 Bb
27 Killerwhale 19
-------------------- Prize fighter15 bBb
-------------------- Immortal15 bB
28 Eve 20
-------------------- Prize fighter15 B
-------------------- Immortal15 bB
29 Warden 20
-------------------- Metal15 bbB
-------------------- Metal15 B
30 Prime Magic 20
-------------------- Landworm12 B
-------------------- Glasswing14 bbB
31 Porcelain 20
-------------------- Prize fighter15 B
-------------------- Immortal15 B
32 Mage 20
-------------------- Little hero13 bB
-------------------- Little hero13 Bb
33 Sweet Tooth 20
-------------------- Prize fighter15 B
-------------------- Immortal15 B
34 Imp 20
-------------------- Prize fighter15 Bb (lost: Apprentice13 bbb - I hate when same dragon lose)
-------------------- Apprentice14 bBb
35 Spelunking 20
-------------------- Prize fighter15 B
-------------------- Immortal15 bB
36 Spartan 20
-------------------- Prize fighter15 bBb (accidentaly, lucky, Metal15 was one down :))
-------------------- Metal15 B
37 Phantom 20
-------------------- Prize fighter15 Bb
-------------------- Immortal15 bBb
38 Pastel 20
-------------------- Prize fighter15 bbB
-------------------- Immortal15 Bb
39 Stalwart 20
-------------------- Metal15 Bbb
-------------------- Metal15 B
40 Quicksand 20
-------------------- Chronicler14 B
-------------------- Chronicler14 Bb


Last 13 dragons level 20! And no Glasswing 20 this time!

chuckyt888
04-21-17, 11:28 AM
Lost 3 times to Quicksand. Manipulation that's probably part of the "anniversary celebration". Just unbelievable.

amerirish
04-21-17, 11:40 AM
36581
Rarity: Super Rare
Type: Elemental Yellow Red
Habitat: Elemental Plane, Yellow Plateau, Red Rocks
Available at: Level 32
Buying Price: 1,500 Gold
Selling Price: 100 Coin
Incubation: 21 hours
Exp Gained: 975 Exp

DR0G0N
04-21-17, 11:52 AM
Another one...





Thanks for the list: Good Luck everyone~

1 Quicksand 1 < Apprentice 10 mmB (it didn't look like it was the best option :-/, but it worked for me)
2 Playful 2 < Hammerhead 6 M
3 Tiger's Eye 2 < Guardian Angel 7 B
4 Cornucopia 3 < Magma 4 mB
5 Goldleaf 4 < Mithril 10 bM
6 Sunshine 4 < Rainbow Sentinel 10 mbB
7 Surprise 5 < Rainbow Sentinel 10 B
8 Quicksand 6 < Huntress 10 Bb
9 Honeycomb 7 < Flower 6 mB
10 Skeletal Knight 11 < Passion 15 bmB
11 Icebreaker 8 < Air 6 bmM
12 Tulip 10 < Rainbow Sentinel 10 B
13 Ironbark 11 < Huntress 10 bbB
14 Guardian Angel 13 < Passion 15 mbB
15 Overgrowth 14 < King 6 mB
16 Prize Fighter 17 < Passion 15 mM
17 Geode 15 < Rainbow Sentinel 10 Bb
18 Jack O' 15 < Rainbow Sentinel 10 Bb
19 Playful 16 < Huntress 10 bbB
20 Quicksand 19 < Glasswing 15 bM
21 Birthstone 14 < the Dark One 10 bbB
22 Hearth 15 < Rainbow Sentinel 10 Bb
23 Harmony Knight 20 < Passion 15 B (Wow...KUDOS to Passion~) [lost: Mithrill 10]
24 Supreme 18 < Stalwart 10 B
25 Dark Naga 18 < Harmony Knight 6 B
26 Pyramid 19 < Lost Love 13 B
27 Killerwhale 19 < Amazon 7 mmB
28 Eve 20 < Rainbow Sentinel 10 Bb
29 Warden 20 < Passion 15 bM
30 Prime Magic 20 < Guardian Angel 7 Mm [lost: Stalwart 10] ( hmm... -_-; )
31 Porcelain 20 < Rainbow Sentinel 10 Bb [lost: Glasswing 15] (hmm...)
32 Mage 20 < Glasswing 15 B
33 Sweet Tooth 20 < Stalwart 10 bmB
34 Imp 20 < Stalwart 10 Mb [lost: Glasswing 15] (hmm...)
25 Spelunking 20 < Glasswing 15 B
36 Spartan 20 < Passion 15 M
37 Phantom 20 < Huntress 10 bB
38 Pastel 20 < Stalwart 10 Mm
39 Stalwart 20 < Passion mMm
40 Quicksand 20 < Glasswing 15 Mm

PeppiVille
04-21-17, 12:00 PM
24 fighters at or over lvl 15. Lol. Yeah, I'll be sitting this one out. Have fun and good luck.

heather11778
04-21-17, 12:15 PM
It's convenient that a tournament starts and I can't get on the game. I'm so tired of this happening. It needs to be fixed. Please s8 I want to play too. I've force closed and cleaned up and still nothing. Please fix.

FieldsLikeB
04-21-17, 02:30 PM
Six days for thirty rounds and seven for forty???

FieldsLikeB
04-21-17, 02:32 PM
1 Quicksand 1 < Apprentice
2 Playful 2 Apprentice
3 Tiger's Eye 2 Diamond
4 Cornucopia 3 Diamond
5 Goldleaf 4 Demolition
6 Sunshine 4 Centurion
7 Surprise 5 Crusader
8 Quicksand 6 Lost Love
9 Honeycomb 7 Glasswing
10 Skeletal Knight 11 Passion
11 Icebreaker 8 Old Watcher
12 Tulip 10 Centurion
13 Ironbark 11 Old Watcher
14 Guardian Angel 13 Passion
15 Overgrowth 14 Diamond
16 Prize Fighter 17 Passion
17 Geode 15 Diamond
18 Jack O' 15 Playful
19 Playful 16 Water
20 Quicksand 19 Dark One
21 Birthstone 14 Cotton Candy
22 Hearth 15 White Glass
23 Harmony Knight 20 Passion
24 Supreme 18 Infinity
25 Dark Naga 18 Playful
26 Pyramid 19 Passion
27 Killerwhale 19 Passion
28 Eve 20 Old Watcher
29 Warden 20 Passion - KO
30 Prime Magic 20 Dark One
31 Porcelain 20 Playful
32 Mage 20 Dark One
33 Sweet Tooth 20 Dark One
34 Imp 20 Dark One
25 Spelunking 20 Dark One
36 Spartan 20 Passion
37 Phantom 20 Apprentice
38 Pastel 20
39 Stalwart 20
40 Quicksand 20

starship412
04-21-17, 02:56 PM
1. Quicksand 1 - Dueler 10 bM (Lost little Wizard 10)
2. Playful 2 - Fire 11 bM
3. Tiger's Eye 2 - Bride of Franken 8 Bb (Lost Circuit 10)
4. Cornucopia 3 - Circuit 10 B (Forgave Circuit for losing to Tiger's Eye)
5. Goldleaf 4 - Cursed Rose 10 Bb
6. Sunshine 4 - Aphrodite 9 Bb
7. Surprise 5 - Prankster 13 bM
8. Quicksand 6 - Music 10 Mm
9. Honeycomb 7 - Never Ending 7 B
10. Skeletal Knight 11 - Mithril 10 Bb
11. Icebreaker 8 - Punk 13 B
12. Tulip 10 - The Dark One 8 bM
13. Ironbark 11 - Banshee 12 bM
14. Guardian Angel 13 - Infinity 15 B
15. Overgrowth 14 - Diamond 15 Bb (Lost Crusader 10)
16. Prize Fighter 17 - Infinity 15 Bb
17. Geode 15 - Jack 12 bM
18. Jack O'Dragon 15 - Dark Prime Chrono 9 B (Lost Little Hero 13)
19. Playful 16 - Water 10 bM
20. Quicksand 20 - Light Mother 9 bmb
21. Birthstone 14 - Dark Angel 10 bM
22. Hearth 15 - Never Ending 7 bB
23. Harmony Knight 20 - *Chakra 9 Bb (Lost Infinity 15, Passion 11, Mystic 10, Mithril 10)
24. Supreme 18 - Dame of Darkness 15 bM
25. Dark Naga 18 - Neon 10 bmb
26. Pyramid 19 - Dame of Darkness 15 mM (Lost Mystic 10, Diamond 15, Passion 11, Dark Angel 10, Clown 10, Atlas 8, Prankster 13, Mithril 11, Imp 9. Never lost so many to a non champ opponent, smdh)
27. Killerwhale 19 - Dame of Darkness 15 mB
28. Eve 20 - Never Ending 7 bM (Never Ending is becoming my favorite dragon, lol)
29. Warden 20 - Mystic 10 M (Surprised the hell out of me. Lost Passion 11, Infinity 15)
30. Prime Magic 20 - Circuit 10 B
31. Porcelain 20 - Prankster 13 Bb
32. Mage 20 - Sultana 10 bM
33. Sweet Tooth 20 - Mithril 11 M (Lost Imp 9)
34. Imp 20 - Punk 13 bM
35. Spelunking 20 - Aphrodite 9 Mb
36. Spartan 20 - Dame of Darkness 15 Mm (Lost Diamond 15, Infinity 15, Passion 11, Diamond 10, Apprentice 15)
37. Phantom 20 - Circuit 10 Bb
38. Pastel 20 - Prankster 13 B
39. Stalwart 20 - Jack 12 Bb (Lost D. Of Darkness 15, Diamond 15, Leftheart 10, Rightheart 10, Ignis 14, Mithril 11)
40. Quicksand 20 - Electric 10 bM (Lost Elements 11)


* = Indicates a dragon I never used in tournaments

Hartoled
04-21-17, 03:05 PM
Quicksand lvl 1 - Kite lvl 10 M (From previous matches, Kite is pretty strong. I'll keep using him on the Quicksand until he fails.)

Playful lvl 2 - Topaz lvl 7 M (For a Bingo Gemstone win.)

Tiger's Eye 2 - Glimmer 10 Mb

Cornucopia 3 - defeated Hydra 7 - Helios 10 M (Needed a Mythic win for Bingo)

Goldleaf 4 - Helios 10 Mbb (I usually use a Gold for these but needed another Mythic win for Bingo)

Sunshine 4 - defeated Tulip 10 - 2nd Tulip attempt wins with M

random59
04-21-17, 03:33 PM
Six days for thirty rounds and seven for forty???

Lol, but you forgot to add the 7 champions, that will make it really tight!

Can't remember ever seeing Killerwhale in a tournament either.

The prize isn't even a Champion dragon, which would be worth our blood sweat and tears.

NeidusBluetip
04-21-17, 03:45 PM
Six days for thirty rounds and seven for forty???

Lawl that was my reaction too. I can't fully recall but the last 40 round tournament, weren't we given, like, at least 11 days or something...? Ridiculous <__<

Scangelina
04-21-17, 05:13 PM
Good luck everyone!!!

1.Guardian Angel wins bbm
2.Spooky wing Bb
3.Glasswing wins Bb
4.Guardian Angel wins B K.O.
5.Gold wins mM
6.Glasswing wins bB
7.Guardian Angel wins M K.O.
8.Guardian Angel wins bbm
9.Glasswing wins Bb
10.Lost Love wins Bb
11.Glasswing wins bbM
12.Prankster wins B K.O.
13.Glasswing wins bbm
14.Ignis wins bM. Finally!!! It's taken almost over a full day to beat Guardian Angel.
15.Landworm wins bB
16.Infinity wins mM
17.Glasswing wins bBb
18.Little Hero wins Bbb
19.Spooky wins bbm
20.Prankster wins bM
21.Dark Angel wins Bb
22.Glasswing wins bB
23.Mercury FINALLY wins mmB
24.Guardian Angel wins mM
25.Glasswing wins Bb
26.King wins Mm
27.Huntress FINALLY wins Bb
28.Crypt wins B K.O.
29.Diamond wins bbM
30.Harmony Knight wins M K.O.
31.Glasswing wins Mm
32.Little Hero wins Bb
33.Glasswing wins bmb
34.Glasswing wins mB
35.Glasswing wins bM
36.Lost Love wins Mm
37.Prankster wins bbm
38.Glasswing wins Bb
39.Diamond wins Bb
40.Light Mother wins bB

Yay!! I finished about an hour ago & very happy I didn't have to resort to any ultimates this tourney. Hope others are able to finish under the wire like me✨

FieldsLikeB
04-21-17, 06:37 PM
Lol, but you forgot to add the 7 champions, that will make it really tight!

Can't remember ever seeing Killerwhale in a tournament either.

The prize isn't even a Champion dragon, which would be worth our blood sweat and tears.

I'm not worried about Champions my Passion is 15.

Never seen Killer Whale in the arena either.

Den8137259
04-21-17, 06:42 PM
// a 40-round, 7-day Tourney to celebrate DS's 5th birthday ★ and quicksand (an element) shows up at 1,8,20,40 ★

// happy birthday DS ★ (:

1 Quicksand ★ aether
2 Playful ★ moonlight
3 Tiger's Eye ★ YY
4 Cornucopia ★ amazon
5 Goldleaf ★ immortal
6 Sunshine ★ atlas
7 Surprise ★ night elf
8 Quicksand ★ origami
9 Honeycomb ★ eclipse
10 Skeletal Knight ★ diamond
11 Icebreaker ★ steelcaster
12 Tulip ★ amazon
13 Ironbark ★ amazon
14 Guardian Angel ★ diamond
15 Overgrowth ★ amazon
16 Prize Fighter ★ valiant
17 Geode ★ unicorn
18 Jack O' ★ cherry blossom
19 Playful ★ mercury
20 Quicksand ★ unicorn
21 Birthstone ★ rex
22 Hearth ★ quicksilver
23 Harmony Knight ★ aether // harmony knight is a green champion //
24 Supreme ★ immortal
25 Dark Naga ★ white glass
26 Pyramid ★ atlas
27 Killerwhale ★ playful
28 Eve ★ atlas
29 Warden ★ passion
30 Prime Magic ★ snowman
31 Porcelain ★ vampire
32 Mage ★ hunter
33 Sweet Tooth ★ immortal
34 Imp ★ amazon
25 Spelunking ★ amazon
36 Spartan ★ diamond
37 Phantom ★ amazon
38 Pastel ★ rainbow
39 Stalwart ★ diamond
40 Quicksand ★ marshmallow (:

PinkBubbles75
04-21-17, 09:33 PM
40 rounds in 7 days??... why?? A bit much w/ little time don't you think? I probably won't post losses, my post could get really long

1 Quicksand - Huntress 10
2 Playful - Music 10
3 Tiger's Eye - Dueler 12
4 Cornucopia - Rainbow Sentinel (RS) 15
5 Goldleaf - RS
6 Sunshine - Glasswing 12
7 Surprise 5 - RS
8 Quicksand 6 - RS
9 Honeycomb 7 - RS
10 Skeletal Knight 11 - Lost Love 13
11 Icebreaker 8 - RS bMb
12 Tulip 10 - RS
13 Ironbark 11 - Glasswing bM
14 Guardian Angel 13 - Lost Love mbB
15 Overgrowth 14 - RS
16 Prize Fighter 17 - Mystic 1 mmM (LOST: Lost Love 2x)
17 Geode 15 - RS bmB
18 Jack O' 15 - RS bmB
19 Playful 16 - RS Bm
20 Quicksand 19 - RS bmB
21 Birthstone 14 - RS bM
22 Hearth 15 - RS bM
23 Harmony Knight 20 - Lost Love Bm (had several losses before winning)
24 Supreme 18 - RS bmB
25 Dark Naga 18 - RS bMb
26 Pyramid 19 - RS Bm
27 Killerwhale 19 - RS B
28 Eve 20 - RS
29 Warden 20 - Diamond 1 Bbb (it's first battle right after hatching & it's first hit was a critical!) (I've been stuck here for like a day & a half - don't want to list the losses)
30 Prime Magic 20 - Glasswing (LOST: RS)
31 Porcelain 20 - Glasswing
32 Mage 20 - Glasswing (LOST: Dueler)
33 Sweet Tooth 20 - RS bM (LOST: Dueler)
34 Imp 20 - RS bmB (LOST: Huntress)
25 Spelunking 20 - RS bmB
36 Spartan 20
37 Phantom 20
38 Pastel 20
39 Stalwart 20
40 Quicksand 20

chuckyt888
04-21-17, 11:13 PM
How many 90% chance losses are acceptable? It's just truly unbelievable. If the manipulation continues with the typical 10-30 loss streaks on one or two high level champions, then things will have reached an all new low. Everyone keeps thinking it can't get any worse....

jjblueyes
04-21-17, 11:56 PM
How many 90% chance losses are acceptable? It's just truly unbelievable. If the manipulation continues with the typical 10-30 loss streaks on one or two high level champions, then things will have reached an all new low. Everyone keeps thinking it can't get any worse....

My Exact thoughts. Every time I think it's about as bad as I've ever seen it....silly me.

jbyn4e
04-22-17, 01:58 AM
Hmmmm, calculations for this 7 days tourney from friday night for me:

max:
2 day weekend - max 14 battles per day = 28 battles
5 days working time - work from 9 to 17 plus transport, cannot battle - 1 battle before work, battles from 18-22 - max 6 battles per day, 30 battles for 5 days
summary - max 58 battles for 40 rounds - it's tight with many loses from high level champions and other dragons.

min: because there are other things to do
2 day weekend - min 8 battles = 16 battles
5 days working time - work from 9 to 17 plus transport, cannot battle - 1 battle before work, battles from 18-22 - min 3 battles per day, 15 battles for 5 days
summary - min 31 battles for 40 rounds - not finishing tourney.

It seems that it will be very hard to finish this tourney for working people / students going to school

Hey, it's FIFTH birthday, it should be EASY to get some things, not harder than usual!

Bastiaan0
04-22-17, 03:46 AM
Haven't been posting for a while as real life took some extra attention. I also (had to) stop keeping certain lists, including my battle lists. But I've been playing like always, which means trying to get every dragon on my main account and don't bother about events, tournaments and so on on my second account.

I'm still battling with the same dragons: Fire, Forest, Air, Water, Light and Diamond at level 15 for my main account and Fire, Forest, Air, Water and Mercury at level 10 for my second account. Due to bingo tasks I leveled Music to 11 on my main account so that it's faster to find in the list and got Music to 10 on my second account so it's more likely that he will win in the arena.
So I also battle with some other dragons for bingo, but taking everything as it comes. Which sometimes gives unexpected wins, especially outside tournaments. But also the other way around: Started 'win a battle with a gemstone type', went to the arena: oops, Guardian Angel :eek: Ofcourse gave it a try with Gemstone but without succes. An hour later Air took care of it with on bash :)

So for now that would be:
14 - Guardian Angel(13) - Air(15) - B (Lost: Gemstone(10))
15 - Overgrowth(14) - Fire(15) - B

Yes, I sped up a few of the first rounds, just to have a bit more time for the last rounds, but also to finish some bingo tasks. I also noticed that lately the high level champs are really hard to beat, which resulted in an ultimate or 4 during the last tournaments, but that also had to do with me having less time to play. As long as I'm not spending more gold than I get from my gpd's I'm fine with that.

On my second account I'm not even trying to get it, I will most likely not make it, I'm pretty sure Quicksand can't be traded, I have enough soft clouds for Cloud Rider. Bingo only starts next week again, so I'll probably battle some of the first round next week.

katali119
04-22-17, 08:27 AM
If it helps any, this tourney is really only 6 and a half days, not 7. Remember, they start at 6:30pm my time (think that's 10:30am DS time?) and they finish at 8am my time (god knows what DS time that is, midnight?!) so the first day isn't a whole day, which caught some people by surprise 2 tourneys ago. :D Good luck all, and remember to wish DS a happy birthday when they put on such delightful games at their party :)

Den8137259
04-22-17, 08:43 AM
If it helps any, this tourney is really only 6 and a half days, not 7.

★ yes, a great handy reminder, katali119 (: ★

★ we'll be ready for the surprise antics this time (: ★

jbyn4e
04-22-17, 09:03 AM
If it helps any, this tourney is really only 6 and a half days, not 7. ...
Good luck all, and remember to wish DS a happy birthday when they put on such delightful games at their party :)
Well that breaks my calc... "thank you" S8 and happy birthday DS. Now I'm sure I will not finish this tourney.

P.S. Yes, it usualy ends 9am CET (my time) , which is 12am (midnight) PDT (DS time).

Hartoled
04-22-17, 12:09 PM
Surprise lvl 5 - Music 10 M (Bingo, of course.)

Quicksand lvl 6 - defeated Kite lvl 10 - Hula lvl 7 wins with M

Honeycomb lvl 7 - Stellar Aurora lvl 10 mB

Skeletal Knight lvl 11 - Diamond lvl 15 mbB

Icebreaker lvl 8 - Music lvl 10 mB

Tulip lvl 10 - Tulip lvl 10 mB (for a Pink Bingo win)

themusicloverme
04-22-17, 06:26 PM
having luck so far in this tourney! but my progress is very slow. I will post my results every five rounds.

1. Quicksand 1 < Metal 12
2. Playful 2 < Social 4
3. Tiger's Eye 2 < Metal 12
4. Cornucopia 3 < Metal 12
5. Goldleaf 4 < Punk 7
6. Sunshine 4 < Beaded 7
7. Surprise 5 < Metal 12
8. Quicksand 6 < Metal 12
9. Honeycomb 7 < Parakeet 10
10. Skeletal Knight 11 < Lost Love 9
11. Icebreaker 8 < Hanukkah 7
12. Tulip 10 < Explorer 9
13. Ironbark 11 < Storm8 11
14. Guardian Angel 13 < Air 10
15. Overgrowth 14 < Fire 11
16. Prize Fighter 17 < Metal 12
17. Geode 15 < Explorer 9
18. Jack O' 15 < Metal 12
19. Playful 16 < Water 10
20. Quicksand 19 < Air 10
21. Birthstone 14 < Punk 7
22. Hearth 15 < Storm8 11

oh well. I cannot defeat that Harmony Knight.

bozotc19
04-22-17, 11:36 PM
Happy friggin bday....for whom? Maybe this is for April fools day...or that has passed. What they doing here...and why. To drive us away. 13 level 20s? I quit!

chuckyt888
04-22-17, 11:50 PM
As predicted, several losses on Guardian Angel. This isn't even a max level champion and the manipulation has already started. The last tournament, the max level Guardian Angel caused 20+ losses on 25% chance each.

Either it's WAI (working as intended) for them due to manipulation or as we've been saying for ages, review your code.

Hartoled
04-22-17, 11:59 PM
Happy friggin bday....for whom? Maybe this is for April fools day...or that has passed. What they doing here...and why. To drive us away. 13 level 20s? I quit!

Perhaps you are correct. Maybe they want to get back to puzzles and bingo as their core business. Dragons are pretty involved, and probably expensive to keep up.

I think we may be mistaken if we assume that they intend for the average player to make it through these. I've never seen them claim that. Maybe we have just been too influenced by our own commiserations. They do want to make money. A LOT OF MONEY, to get past this many Arena Beasts.

JustKay
04-23-17, 12:10 AM
I really don't know if this would make them that much more money. It's probably an experiment and they'll see how players react. I myself, I don't think I have a chance at this so am just playing for the sake of playing. Am not going to spend any gold speeding up rounds like I did with Limerick as that's gold for nothing. If I manage to get through the rounds and it looks like I might finish, then I might think about spending gold. Right now it seems impossible. I have a lot of gold, but normally do not spend real money so it's not an exact representation of how people might react spending wise.

It's not a great looking dragon, and we've yet to see what actual benefits an Elemental type dragon has. This might be first one with a yellow type mixed in, but that sort of means squat to me... and it's not even pure yellow. there's red mixed in.

Hartoled
04-23-17, 12:20 AM
Yeah, I thought about the yellow\elemental factor, but, like you, JustKay, I'm still unaware of elemental merits. I think the dragon looks nice.

Often, my goal with the tournaments, is to get through them as quickly as possible so that I can keep using the Arena for Bingo. Looks like that is going to be difficult on down the line, this time.

chuckyt888
04-23-17, 12:24 AM
I don't think anyone minds a challenge as long as battles aren't manipulated during tournaments. It's ridiculous that people who have put in time in this game and helped keep this game afloat should be subject to this sort of lame attempt at forcing gold spending. Nobody should.

40 battles is fine. Manipulating wins and percentages is not.


Perhaps you are correct. Maybe they want to get back to puzzles and bingo as their core business. Dragons are pretty involved, and probably expensive to keep up.

I think we may be mistaken if we assume that they intend for the average player to make it through these. I've never seen them claim that. Maybe we have just been too influenced by our own commiserations. They do want to make money. A LOT OF MONEY, to get past this many Arena Beasts.

Den8137259
04-23-17, 02:38 AM
★ whatever the event type, players can choose not to participate further if it is too onerous. A perfect example being the event that is ongoing in Castle Story, where the milestone goals are far too tedious, requiring full-time play to attain them. ★

★ the S8 event must make players feel that they will be rewarded for their efforts, and be justified for their gold spending. Otherwise players just do selective parts or drop the event totally. ★

katali119
04-23-17, 07:35 AM
Wow, Supreme is gorgeous! I love tournaments for introducing me to beautiful dragons I don't otherwise get to see :)

bozotc19
04-23-17, 07:57 AM
What if they threw a birthday party for themselves.....and nobody came! I think that is what we are talking about here

leo2010leo
04-23-17, 08:01 AM
and we've yet to see what actual benefits an Elemental type dragon has.
My lvl 14 Ignis is my first choice against Diamond, almost no fails since I've got her.

chuckyt888
04-23-17, 11:46 AM
The problem isn't that it's too tedious. Systematically changing percentages during tournaments is not OK.

People have worked very hard to gather the necessary dragons to beat tournaments regardless of the tournament dragon's level or types. They should be able to reap the benefits... but instead we get this. It's been going on for far too long.

jbyn4e
04-23-17, 01:44 PM
@katali119

You seems too fast during this tournament - already at 30. round with 5 loses. Do you still have videos to speed up or are you using gold to speed up, or - just don't sleep and do nothing else besides DS?

P.S. I see your Passion is doing great job - I should focus to bring mine on 15 :)

katali119
04-23-17, 01:57 PM
OMG, level 15 Passion is well worth the investment! It seems to do so much better than my Diamond!

I have had 2 speed ups today and yesterday, so 4 extra battles (they'd gone completely before that since the last tourney I think). I am pretty regular playing each hour, for about 14 hours each day. I don't use any gold, so far I've never used an ultimate or speeded up with gold (I am constantly anxious I'm going to press the ultimate button by mistake lol) I'm whizzing through this one so far, long may it last. I've had some where I get stuck for days on a champion, but since getting Passion to 15 that hasn't happened. Even got through Glasswing in the last one in only one day (10 battles or something). I'm sure my luck will change at some point! Probably when there's a dragon I desperately want, Murphy's Law.

I just set a timer to go off every hour, do a battle, plant more Rushrooms and collect my coins. Takes about 5 mins most times, but I can do that almost every hour, luckily :) I do many other things for the rest of the time, but I can almost always spare that 5 mins.

maryamhjm
04-23-17, 02:03 PM
In my opinion battle arena tournaments should be much easier, it is already a lot of work playing almost every hour or so to get through 40 battles, but no it is made almost impossible to finish with so many dragon losses. Most dragons are not even worth the effort, it was way more interesting when playing for the dark one(but they took that one out before I had enough to craft him)and gold every few battles. And I know we do not have to play every event, bingo tales etc. But it is what makes playing dragon story interesting, well it was before all the changes in the good old days.

Hartoled
04-23-17, 02:12 PM
I like to play tournaments in a fun way, i.e., making quirky choices that may give some surprising results, or using dragons that most people can attain without massive commitments to farming\breeding. I kinda feel embarrassed to report a string of successes with some pumped-up elite beast that I know only a few of us have gotten.

Then again, nothing is more boring than a long string of losses, or aggravating than investing a week in ultimate failure. So, for the sake of my sanity, and respect for the time that I am given on this Earth, I'll do what it takes to get to the end. But it kinda sucks to have to do that.

Hartoled
04-23-17, 02:35 PM
Ironbark 11 - Light Mother 12 Mb

Guardian Angel 13 - Diamond 15 mbB

Overgrowth 14 - defeats Islander 7, and Ruby 7 (lol, I must have been paying too much attention to my pizza when I picked THAT one.) - Huntress 10 wins it with mB. (Who knew Overgrowth was such a beast?)

Prize Fighter 17 - Passion 10 mbB

Geode 15 - Tulip 10 mB

Jack 'O 15 - Mithril 12 mB

Playful 16 - Music 10 M

Quicksand 19 - defeats Hula 7 - Light Mother 12 Mb

Birthstone 14 - Unicorn 10 mB

chuckyt888
04-23-17, 03:30 PM
After several losses using best chance dragons on Guardian Angel, several 90% chance losses on easy dragons at the beginning.... now 6 losses on Overgrowth using 80% dragons.

This is the garbage people are refusing to put more money into the game over... in case there was any confusion.

Den8137259
04-23-17, 04:43 PM
★ personally I like battle arena tourneys cos they allow us to pit our drags against opponents , so the more drags you got , the better you are in tourneys :) ★

★ secondly, battle arena tourneys forces us (more for me, I'm unmotivated most times lol) to do the battles n get parts for craftable drags. thirdly, the common battle line-up of opponent dragons makes a great discussion topic with players here :) ★

★ S8 used to reward us gold for clearing the tough rounds .. but now no more .. could S8 bring that back again? It's not a lot of gold refund compared to an ultimate blow, no? :confused: ★

Clark_Wayne
04-23-17, 06:00 PM
omg i just realized when i reached the 30th round that it was a 40 rounds tourney ! :eek: LOL

Dragosle
04-23-17, 08:03 PM
Urgh... this tournament has way too many Champion dragon opponents (T.T)

Den8137259
04-23-17, 08:19 PM
OMG, level 15 Passion is well worth the investment! It seems to do so much better than my Diamond!

★ Way to go katali119, nearly to completion (https://forums.storm8.com/showthread.php?98453-Quicksand-Dragon-Tournament-4-21-2017&p=1412755&viewfull=1#post1412755)! (: ★

JustKay
04-23-17, 08:21 PM
omg i just realized when i reached the 30th round that it was a 40 rounds tourney ! :eek: LOL

Really? Maybe all the complaining has become so common it doesn't register anymore :p It's a pretty big sore point for many. Good luck! I've been trying to play more regularly so that I can benchmark how well I do at a 40 round tourney. Depending on how far I get this time, I may or may not other with future ones.

JustKay
04-23-17, 08:22 PM
Happy friggin bday....for whom? Maybe this is for April fools day...or that has passed. What they doing here...and why. To drive us away. 13 level 20s? I quit!

It's DS's bday... so if I'm not wrong that means all the prizes (ie. gold) goes to DS/S8. Isn't that how bday parties work?? :confused:

starship412
04-23-17, 09:14 PM
Anybody have any ideas for Pyramid?

jbyn4e
04-23-17, 10:47 PM
^^ Just got it on secondary acc. with Clown 13 one bash.

JustKay
04-23-17, 11:05 PM
Anybody have any ideas for Pyramid?

I used black knight 15. Down in one hit. I know that that's normally not how it works the other way. Pyramid is supposed to be neutral to champions. It worked for me ?\_(ツ)_/?

Den8137259
04-23-17, 11:29 PM
★ love those one-hit wonders.. and when it happened i will look at it in disbelief lol ★ :D

★ coming to pyramid next round, and getting clown and black knight ready (: thanks for the pointers (: ★

// okie, I used atlas.. not exactly a one-hit wonder, but it does the job (: ★

hungryres
04-24-17, 12:54 AM
Anybody have any ideas for Pyramid?

i believe i had luck using fire or red/yellow hybrid dragon before.

now i'm stuck on Warden...

katali119
04-24-17, 02:25 AM
★ Way to go katali119, nearly to completion (https://forums.storm8.com/showthread.php?98453-Quicksand-Dragon-Tournament-4-21-2017&p=1412755&viewfull=1#post1412755)! (: ★

Ha, watch me get stuck forever on the last ones now :) (Thankyou :) )

katali119
04-24-17, 02:28 AM
Anybody have any ideas for Pyramid?

My best options were: Diamond (15), Marshmallow (15), Passion (15); followed by Metal (15), Afterlife (13), Ignis (13), Lost Love (13) and Prankster (13). Not going to lie though, none of those had a very good chance! I was expecting at least 4 tries, although I think it only took 2. This and Killerwhale were looking as tough as the champions!

heather11778
04-24-17, 04:36 AM
Any ideas on pyramid. My diamond and stalwart have lost to him.

Den8137259
04-24-17, 05:04 AM
Any ideas on pyramid. My diamond and stalwart have lost to him.


★ I used atlas.. not exactly a one-hit wonder, but it does the job (: ★

★ heather, maybe try atlas? ★

Bastiaan0
04-24-17, 05:46 AM
Anybody have any ideas for Pyramid?

Got it with Forest(15), Music(11) and Fire(15) lost ;)

pernmagic
04-24-17, 07:11 AM
Way behind thanks to Prize Fighter but got him eventually with Passion L13 .....

katali119
04-24-17, 07:26 AM
Well, anyone struggling, sorry, I clearly got all your good spins this time! This has gone so smoothly for me so far it's spooky.

Den8137259
04-24-17, 07:45 AM
★ nice going katali119! ten rounds for me to completion, before poofing out for a trip :) ★

// spartan is not relenting :| ★


// afternote: a bit of whining does help, spartan exited upon meeting diamond (: ★

starship412
04-24-17, 08:25 AM
Finally beat Pyramid with Dame of Darkness 15.

amerirish
04-24-17, 08:52 AM
Pyramid was a beast to me too. Angelfire 15 finally beat him.

I'm on Round 30 (Prime Magic 20) - I see that all the remaining opponents are level 20. This is ridiculous and so unfair. They increase the number of rounds and upped the difficulty by like 100% but only give us 7 days to complete the tourney. What on earth are they thinking?? The prize dragon isn't even all that special. Aren't we supposed to be celebrating DS' 5th b-day? Not very joyful IMHO :(

jbyn4e
04-24-17, 09:21 AM
^^ Well S8 is celebrating, having laugh at all our strugle - it's fun for them :cool:

jbyn4e
04-24-17, 09:23 AM
For Pyramid I used twice high level blue/yellow combination with success:

26 Pyramid 19
-------------------- Clown13 B
-------------------- Curio14 Bb

leo2010leo
04-24-17, 10:18 AM
Anybody have any ideas for Pyramid?
Passion 13 (Mmb), first try.

amerirish
04-24-17, 10:41 AM
BTW, Passion 15 took down Warden 20 for me in Round 29 if that helps anyone :)

Hartoled
04-24-17, 01:14 PM
Today's Battles:

Hearth 15 - Gentle Knight 12 mBb

Harmony Knight 20 - Ignis 14 mB

Supreme 18 - Valiant 10 Mb

Dark Naga 18 - Ophiuchus 7 mB

Pyramid 19 - defeated Helios 10, Crown Jewel 7, Incognito 10, Cursed Idol 10, Curio 10, Mystic 10, and Achilles 10 - Sphinx lvl 7 won with mbB

Killerwhale 19 - defeated Tulip 10 - Glasswing 15 mB

Eve 20 - Mithril 12 mB

laurelsail
04-24-17, 02:52 PM
Please help with Prime Magic! It is eating everything! Thanks!

starship412
04-24-17, 03:18 PM
Please help with Prime Magic! It is eating everything! Thanks!

I'm not to Prime Magic yet but I would try Prankster or any dragon that has black and pink in it.

starship412
04-24-17, 03:21 PM
Of course Passion decides to lose to Warden. I'm going to play the color game and find a dragon that can beat green/yellow. Hmmm, I think I'll try Origami, lol.

FireballFarm
04-24-17, 07:24 PM
Please help with Prime Magic! It is eating everything! Thanks!
Jade has the best odds against Prime Magic. Then, black/green super rares, Harmony Knight, Glasswing, The Dark One, and Wood Nymph.

Other good ones are the pure Champions, Darksteel (black/metal), Black Pearl (black/gemstone), Black Rose (green/black/red), and Goblin (black/red). Valiant and Black Diamond also have decent odds. Green/red super rares and pure green, super rare Dawntree score in the same group. Tri-color hybrids that include green/black and something else are also in the same odds group (dragons like Divine, Neon, Giving, Mech, Cupcake, Cauldron, etc). Pure Zodiac-types are also good.

Lots of options for this one. :) Good luck!

Clark_Wayne
04-24-17, 07:50 PM
finished ! was a tough tourney !
worst were stalwart, harmony knight, pyramid and killerwhale !

mbpharr
04-24-17, 11:00 PM
Anyone struggling with Warden I won with air after losing with everything else all day long

Den8137259
04-24-17, 11:47 PM
★ done (: holiday here i come (: ★

rado_nik
04-25-17, 03:44 AM
Please help with Prime Magic! It is eating everything! Thanks!

Just now pass trough Prime Magic 20 < Forest 15 bbB - first try

Bastiaan0
04-25-17, 06:29 AM
Had a hard time beating Prime Magic, too. Finally (and surprisingly) it went down against Gemstone(10) for a bingo task :)
Porcelain was stubborn, too, my two regular heroes against pink (Water and Forest) couldn't win, good old Fire sent him to the spa in the end. Sped up a few rounds and Fire won the next three rounds as well. Now waiting for Spelunking, Air is slightly agitated as he knows he is to try first :)

amerirish
04-25-17, 07:39 AM
For me; Angelfire 15 beat Prime Magic (shockingly) & Passion 15 beat Warden. Also note that Glasswing 15 has been my MVP this tourney even if it sometimes takes him 2 tries to beat an opponent. I've got Spartan 20 (round 36) coming up next.

starship412
04-25-17, 09:23 AM
I took my own advice and used a black/pink hybrid against Prime Magic. Circuit took it down in one bash.

harobeda
04-25-17, 10:14 AM
My current goal: Finish the tournament within 24 hours so it won't interfere with next week's bingo. I'm at round 31 so it might happen... I have a good arsenal of battlers.

jbyn4e
04-25-17, 10:25 AM
^^
Next week you'll have bitrthday DT. Intro: Main reward is quadruple color dragon, starting with arcane type. It will be battles with certain (new) dragon(s), invites, quests, mining, breeding, hatching certain dragons, crafting, evolving....

amerirish
04-25-17, 01:44 PM
Valiant 15 beat Pastel 20 in shocking turn of events!

Oh no, next is Stalwart 20 :( :(

pernmagic
04-25-17, 02:40 PM
Valiant 15 beat Pastel 20 in shocking turn of events!

Oh no, next is Stalwart 20 :( :(

Good luck , I'm struggling with Pyramid still :(

a_beautiful_day
04-25-17, 02:53 PM
Sadly last tourney my glasswing was my champ! It took out at least 80% of the rounds! Now this one and it hasn't won a single round(except when I used it second time & that worked but didn't when tried again..sigh) So now I'm majorly stuck on Pastel & I haven't seen many of you who have gotten there or posted what worked. Any ideas!? Please help!!! Lol..I'm so close & I really just want to finish and focus on tales. Thanks for any help you guys can offer!

P.S. I use the battle chart all the time but for some reason it's just not working for me this time. Almost every win has been by accident/picking random dragon I've not used before & that has worked but not for Pastel. I've been stuck on this guy for most of the day!....help!! :) ty!!

starship412
04-25-17, 03:17 PM
Sadly last tourney my glasswing was my champ! It took out at least 80% of the rounds! Now this one and it hasn't won a single round(except when I used it second time & that worked but didn't when tried again..sigh) So now I'm majorly stuck on Pastel & I haven't seen many of you who have gotten there or posted what worked. Any ideas!? Please help!!! Lol..I'm so close & I really just want to finish and focus on tales. Thanks for any help you guys can offer!

P.S. I use the battle chart all the time but for some reason it's just not working for me this time. Almost every win has been by accident/picking random dragon I've not used before & that has worked but not for Pastel. I've been stuck on this guy for most of the day!....help!! :) ty!!

Do you have Knightmare or Prankster? I believe those would be your best bet because pink is weak against black, white is weak against pink and purple would be neutral. Good luck!

Hartoled
04-25-17, 03:43 PM
Today's Battles:

Warden 20 - defeats Passion 10, Diamond 15 x 2, Lost Love 13, Ignis 14, The Dark One 10, and Passion 10, again - Took a couple of hours off, fed my Passion up to level 13, and it won with Mb

Prime Magic 20 - Jade 7 M (My Jade lives in a Fountain of Youth, so pretty hilarious to see that battle.)

Porcelain 20 - Glasswing 15 M (Playing catch up, now, so I used my best.)

Mage 20 - Lacewing 10 Mbb

Sweet Tooth 20 - Shaman 12 M

Imp 20 - Mithril 12 mB

Spelunking 20 - Quartz 7 Mb

Spartan 20 - Passion 13 mB

JustKay
04-25-17, 04:07 PM
OMG! Stalwart went down with one bash, first time with Diamond 15... am so happy. This is in the bag!

UPDATE: Done! Quicksand loses to Light Mother 11. Good luck to all others who are still battling!

a_beautiful_day
04-25-17, 06:04 PM
Do you have Knightmare or Prankster? I believe those would be your best bet because pink is weak against black, white is weak against pink and purple would be neutral. Good luck!

Thank you!!! I have Prankster & it worked (on second try but still...thank you thank you thank you!!) :D

starship412
04-25-17, 06:42 PM
Thank you!!! I have Prankster & it worked (on second try but still...thank you thank you thank you!!) :D

You're so very welcome.

BiteMe111
04-25-17, 09:18 PM
Almost done, just one more round to go. It was very helpful to every now and then be able to watch a video and not have to wait (this is fairly new to Android).

I got stuck on Spartan for a while. Lost all my best fighters, finally, just out of an "I'll use a random dragon" desperation, I tried Maple level 13...and won. Tried same Maple right away against Stalwart... and win again! Other than that, most rounds won with good old Divine 15.

Hoping to get done with round 40 today.

jbyn4e
04-25-17, 11:02 PM
It was very helpful to every now and then be able to watch a video and not have to wait (this is fairly new to Android).

I think majority of us on Android still don't have option to watch videos to speed up battles... S8 why stilll just some get that option?

BiteMe111
04-25-17, 11:15 PM
I think majority of us on Android still don't have option to watch videos to speed up battles... S8 why stilll just some get that option?

Agh, that blows. :( All my 3 accounts (all Android) started to get the videos recently, but they appear randomly and not always at the same time between the accounts. So I was assuming all Android users got them. Hope you get them soon!!!

DR0G0N
04-26-17, 12:52 AM
Despite all the champs and level 20s that were on here...this is probably the easiest tourney I ever done. I didn't have a single dragon that delay me a day or more which is very uncommon compare to all the past tourneys. I'm not sure is it b/c I finally use my level 15 Passion (note: I didn't have any ADIPPS or Metal dragons before to go against Champs) or did they adjust the difficulty. Anyways, this is refreshing.

leo2010leo
04-26-17, 01:08 AM
Done. Quicksand in storage, waiting for the next World event or Leaderbord. Strangely enough, for me it was the easiest tourney since I started playing Dragon tales.

amerirish
04-26-17, 06:31 AM
After many, many losses, finally beat Stalwart 20 with Angel 15 :D

ETA: Finished! Quicksand 20 went down to Valiant 15 with one big BASH!

Good luck to all still fighting. May the odds be ever in your favor :D

jbyn4e
04-26-17, 08:46 AM
Well finished also on both accounts. 4 loses on main and 2 on secondary - so they didn't cheated this tourney, even make it easier! As oposite to tourney woth 30+ loses...

On secondary battled last with quest from tales to get 1 cloud from battling - won battle, didn't get cloud :(

pernmagic
04-26-17, 09:31 AM
★ love those one-hit wonders.. and when it happened i will look at it in disbelief lol ★ :D

★ coming to pyramid next round, and getting clown and black knight ready (: thanks for the pointers (: ★

// okie, I used atlas.. not exactly a one-hit wonder, but it does the job (: ★


After many, many losses, finally beat Stalwart 20 with Angel 15 :D

ETA: Finished! Quicksand 20 went down to Valiant 15 with one big BASH!

Good luck to all still fighting. May the odds be ever in your favor :D

Thanks I need every bit of fighting spirit just beat killer whale at last with RS .... will I finish ? doubt it this one has been a right meany to me but will struggle on.......

Hartoled
04-26-17, 12:05 PM
I'm not going to raise my Passion to level 15 because so many people are talking about it that I'm sure they'll cripple it.

Today's Battles:

Phantom 20 - Behemoth 10 mBb

Pastel 20 - defeated Pastel 10 - Wood Nymph 8 mB

Stalwart 20 - defeated Achilles 10, and Diamond 15 -

jbyn4e
04-26-17, 12:11 PM
Then level Metal to 15 and use it :) - I'll get my Passion on main (not have it on secondary) to 15 to have alternative of Metal15 against high level champs :)

katali119
04-26-17, 12:43 PM
People have been talking about ADIPPS for a long time.

starship412
04-26-17, 12:46 PM
This was absolutely the worst tournament for me since Cobra last year. I never had a spa line so freaking long. I guess they decided to make this harder for me because I breeze through most tourneys now.

jbyn4e
04-26-17, 12:49 PM
People have been talking about ADIPPS for a long time.
Long time didn't see in results someone used Achilles (A in ADIPPS as I remember, I don't have it) against champions... Do anyone know how is it compared to Passion, Metal? My Metal proves itself much better then Diamond against high level champs, and - in my expirience - Diamond is better for champions up to level 15. Metal is - in my case - much better for champs level 15 to 20.

@starship412 and others - I'm sending all my luck having this tourney to you! I hope some of that luck will reach you.

Hartoled
04-26-17, 01:40 PM
My Achilles is level 10 and the results with it have been less-than-stellar...at least, not good enough to make me want to spend much food on it. These lvl 20 Guardians just get very little resistance from most dragons, even Diamonds and Metals.

Achilles is about the easiest, and cheapest-for-fails, Diamond to breed. Get one and tell us what you think.

I have Stalwart coming up for play, right now. I'll give Achilles a try.

* It failed, but to be fair, my lvl 10 Passion failed a lot also.

laurelsail
04-26-17, 02:05 PM
Please help with Stalwart! None of my diamonds are working! Thanks!

katali119
04-26-17, 02:37 PM
I think the dragons improve a lot at level 15.

njbhugjjgnj
04-26-17, 03:25 PM
People have been talking about ADIPPS for a long time.

ADIPPS? First time I heard about this,please explain :)

Bastiaan0
04-26-17, 03:49 PM
So after countless losses against Spartan I used an ultimate because I needed the battle for the tales. Phantom and Pastel were both easily defeated by Water. Now on Stalwart, looks like there will be more victims for the spa by the time I finish the tournament :(

papalove1
04-26-17, 04:08 PM
Achilles, Diamond, Infinity, Passion, Pyramid

starship412
04-26-17, 04:22 PM
ADIPPS? First time I heard about this,please explain :)

ADIPPS is the acronym for dragons that are supposed to be good against champions but can't fight their way out of a paper bag. The A is Achillies Dragon, D is Diamond, I is for Infinity, P is for Passion, P is for Pyramid and S is for Soccer.

zenkitty99
04-26-17, 04:53 PM
Once again I'm stuck on a tournament opponent at a time when I need to win battles for Tales and Bingo! I've lost over 10 times to Warden, and have tried all the dragons others have posted beating him with (if I have them).

I'm so over this - the game is just becoming too frustrating, with too many events with conflicting tasks going on at the same time. It's times like these I wonder why I'm still playing...

njbhugjjgnj
04-26-17, 05:54 PM
Achilles, Diamond, Infinity, Passion, Pyramid


ADIPPS is the acronym for dragons that are supposed to be good against champions but can't fight their way out of a paper bag. The A is Achillies Dragon, D is Diamond, I is for Infinity, P is for Passion, P is for Pyramid and S is for Soccer.

Baaahaha.....sound's about right :) Thank you. (On my main island) Passion has done pretty well for me. I have all the Soccer dragon's but never put them to use in the arena :\ Don't have Pyramid, so can't say much about him :p

starship412
04-26-17, 06:08 PM
Once again I'm stuck on a tournament opponent at a time when I need to win battles for Tales and Bingo! I've lost over 10 times to Warden, and have tried all the dragons others have posted beating him with (if I have them).

I'm so over this - the game is just becoming too frustrating, with too many events with conflicting tasks going on at the same time. It's times like these I wonder why I'm still playing...

My girlfriend used Apprentice to finally beat Warden after losing 14 rounds against him. One shot of magic weakened him significantly. If you don't have Apprentice then I'd use Beast as the next best thing. When all else fails, use a high level Magic Dragon or use the disposable Fire strategy. Good luck to you because I know Warden is a female dog for it to be a rare dragon.

Hartoled
04-26-17, 06:20 PM
I'd like to see everybody who has the dragons, with a little work, that they could reasonably acquire by Player level 50, to have at least a one in five chance of defeating a Boss, like the Stalwart...Maybe, even a one in ten chance, but doable in a long evening of play, and maybe a lunch break, for good measure.

I got the Stalwart, after a loss with a lvl 10 Achilles, and a lvl 15 Diamond, with the same Passion that I fed up to level 13 for the Warden.

That Passion dragon would be available to everyone who was at least Player lvl 7 around this last Valentine's Day, and Player lvl 15 by now (for the Noble Crystal), by breeding Rightheart and Leftheart, and the Passion, thereafter.

That's a pretty egalitarian dragon. Or, as jbyn4e suggested, get a Metal.

JustKay
04-26-17, 06:23 PM
ADIPPS is the acronym for dragons that are supposed to be good against champions but can't fight their way out of a paper bag. The A is Achillies Dragon, D is Diamond, I is for Infinity, P is for Passion, P is for Pyramid and S is for Soccer.

Wot? The three in DIP are awesome at knocking down champions for me. I only really bring them out in adverse conditions so they do fail enough time, but they usually get the job done eventually. D & I also polish off any diamond hybrids that I go against pretty quick snap.

JustKay
04-26-17, 06:26 PM
After this tournament, I feel like I don't want to do anymore future ones. I think I need to quit the tourney side of DS if this is the new standard. While I did complete without gold, I played almost every hour on the hour, and at the rate I went I could be out of a job soon if I keep this up in future >_<

Hartoled
04-26-17, 06:31 PM
Well, 'Good Job!', on the tournament, JustKay!

...and "Good Job!" to Everybody else, except the ones we still wish "Good Luck", or, sadly, those who were already too discouraged to attempt it this time.

To all of the sane ones, who never noticed the tournament..."Whatever.." LOL

Oh, yeah...40 rounds is a long tournament!

I still have Quicksand to go.

*Light Mother 12 finished off the tournament with an M against the Quicksand 20.

PinkBubbles75
04-26-17, 08:05 PM
I just got passed Warden earlier and I find all these level 20s annoying. I've lost 3 times out of the 4 level 20s I've battled so far. (I need Rainbow Sentinel back from the spa asap!)

dragonfliesplace
04-26-17, 08:48 PM
[QUOTE=jbyn4e;1414172]Long time didn't see in results someone used Achilles (A in ADIPPS as I remember, I don't have it) against champions... Do anyone know how is it compared to Passion, Metal? My Metal proves itself much better then Diamond against high level champs, and - in my expirience - Diamond is better for champions up to level 15. Metal is - in my case - much better for champs level 15 to 20.

my diamond is weak against champs over lvl 15 as well. You mentioned a while back on here about your lvl metal. So i went and got mine to 15 and it's been an absolute great against the 15+ champs
Now i want to raise my passion to 15

zenkitty99
04-26-17, 09:16 PM
My girlfriend used Apprentice to finally beat Warden after losing 14 rounds against him. One shot of magic weakened him significantly. If you don't have Apprentice then I'd use Beast as the next best thing. When all else fails, use a high level Magic Dragon or use the disposable Fire strategy. Good luck to you because I know Warden is a female dog for it to be a rare dragon.

Thanks for the suggestions, but neither Apprentice nor Beast did the job for me. I've lost count of the number of losses to Warden now - it's coming up to two full days battling him, and I've been speeding up battles to try to get through this as quickly as possible so I can get on with Tales and Bingo. It's just beyond ridiculous at this point!

dragonfliesplace
04-26-17, 09:41 PM
I beat warden with a second try with metal.
goodluck

zenkitty99
04-26-17, 10:06 PM
I beat warden with a second try with metal.
goodluck

Thanks! I've tried metal a couple of times already. Unfortunately, my metal sucks in the arena :(

Really getting desperate enough to use Ultimate - except I know that's exactly what s8 want people to do, and I'm too stubborn to give in ;)

Hartoled
04-26-17, 10:24 PM
Has anybody tried a Lovers Dragon against a high level Guardian? I never got around to hatching mine.

jbyn4e
04-26-17, 11:28 PM
Thanks! I've tried metal a couple of times already. Unfortunately, my metal sucks in the arena :(

My sucked until it gets to level 15. At level 13 he was .... hm, wins sometimes. At 15 - win almost everytime, if not first time - second try do. For example - this tourney on 2 accounts Metal15:high level champions - 9:1 (9 wins, 1 lose).

But he sucks on Glasswing 20 :(

zenkitty99
04-27-17, 12:26 AM
My sucked until it gets to level 15. At level 13 he was .... hm, wins sometimes. At 15 - win almost everytime, if not first time - second try do. For example - this tourney on 2 accounts Metal15:high level champions - 9:1 (9 wins, 1 lose).

But he sucks on Glasswing 20 :(

Thank you!!! My metal was 13, and I wasn't intending to feed him up any further since he hardly ever won in the arena. But your post prompted me to level him up to 15, and give him a go - he beat Warden in 2 hits! I'm totally shocked, but very, very happy! :)

pernmagic
04-27-17, 03:24 AM
Warden has been given me hell, killed all my best fighter ..... so put my L14 Playful in with him and. Boom Bb warden done for :)

rasike
04-27-17, 03:43 AM
Wow, this tournament is really very difficult! So many high level dragons and so many champions! I was not stuck badly with any dragon (10 or more losses), but I have still one opponent left, and it is the last day of the tournament. Tournaments with 40 battles are so much harder! Congratulations to everyone who finished the tournament and good luck to everyone who is still fighting!

katali119
04-27-17, 05:14 AM
Level 15 does boost dragons. It's not a steady line up through the levels, it definitely jumps and plateaus.

Metal is weak against Rainbow (from the type chart) so it makes sense that he's no good against Glasswing.

MajicHearts
04-27-17, 07:18 AM
I quit the tournament 2 days ago. I've decided that this game is no longer fun for me. Too much going on for the average player.
Oh well, everyone enjoy!

missourijan
04-27-17, 08:35 AM
I quit the tournament 2 days ago. I've decided that this game is no longer fun for me. Too much going on for the average player.
Oh well, everyone enjoy!
I quit right now.

This thing is ridiculous. As if 40 rounds were not bad enough but fifteen times for every level 20 dragon using fighters with 60% odds and still losing is just beyond the pale. So not fun. A game is fun that has rules and you follow them for reward. why bother leveling up all the champs. And why do others post results of winning with one round and my game NEVER goes that way. Then to top it all off several rounds finally beat on tenth or more try only for a sync error and then it fails the second time. And let's not even mention the make a wish event auto starting with out having a chance to build up food. I quit that too.

glenngenius
04-27-17, 10:32 AM
Hi, can someone please help me?

I've just defeated the final round (quicksand dragon) and the prize is already in my storage. But after an hour, the battle tournament continues... This time, round 39 of 38 and level of opponent is 0. Is this a bug or something?

Also, I noticed that most of the players here have 40 rounds. Is there anyone here who only has 38 rounds and has finished it? Thanks! :)

[S8] Elsa
04-27-17, 10:47 AM
Hi, can someone please help me?

I've just defeated the final round (quicksand dragon) and the prize is already in my storage. But after an hour, the battle tournament continues... This time, round 39 of 38 and level of opponent is 0. Is this a bug or something?

Also, I noticed that most of the players here have 40 rounds. Is there anyone here who only has 38 rounds and has finished it? Thanks! :)

It's a known (but not yet identified) and rare bug. You'll be able to use the arena again when the Tournament expires. If anyone else is encountering this, please let me know. :)

raygill1
04-27-17, 11:34 AM
I've had enough!!! Three days I've been stuck on warden! I did win on 3rd attempt but then lost Internet and bang he was still there! This is the 3rd tournament out of 5 I've lost!!!! It is ridiculous, I have level 13 & 15 diamonds, 15 stalwart and 15 Glasswing, 15 metal/fire/air/forest! What was the point in feeding them up when after 3 FULL days the lot cannot beat a dragon 3/4 of the way through a tournament!!!!! Grrrrrr

pernmagic
04-27-17, 02:10 PM
I quit..... reached round 30 ...... now to heal the many wounded in the spa.....
I'm L193 with many many top dragons, this the first tournament I have quit for a long long time ...... !!!
Why learn over years with many previous early losses until I learnt how to fight and win eventually for this situation where nothing learnt works ....and I won't spend gold to ultimate

Hartoled
04-27-17, 02:17 PM
I think the Diamonds are the biggest disappointments about this entire situation. People spend years and fortunes to breed an Ultra Rare dragon that is supposed to be neutral to unbreedable Champions, and still can't land a solid blow in a tournament.

awesome6204
04-27-17, 02:24 PM
I don't see me finishing this tournament (same as many others recently) either. Started out fine, but I have been battling Pyramid round 26 for the past four days. I'm level 200 with many level 15 dragons all of which are lined up at the spa. how many losses do we need for one round? and to make matters worse, I am falling behind in the latest event since I have to win a cloud in battle!

Hard to want to continue playing a game when the only way to keep going is to spend gold.

Hartoled
04-27-17, 02:39 PM
I had a lot of fails at Pyramid. Finally occurred to me to try the level 7 Sphinx (Egypt-Blue) that I think I got from some Spin to Win, and he did the job.

harobeda
04-27-17, 02:41 PM
I don't see me finishing this tournament (same as many others recently) either. Started out fine, but I have been battling Pyramid round 26 for the past four days. I'm level 200 with many level 15 dragons all of which are lined up at the spa. how many losses do we need for one round? and to make matters worse, I am falling behind in the latest event since I have to win a cloud in battle!

Hard to want to continue playing a game when the only way to keep going is to spend gold.

At least the tournament is over in a few hours and Days 1-3 are quick days. Day 4 looks a doozy... But I'd say the tournament should kill anyone's chances of the tales.

Hartoled
04-27-17, 02:52 PM
There's something that I mention a lot in my posts, victories in conjunction with Bingo tasks. Is there something to that? I'll let you decide.

Bastiaan0
04-27-17, 03:09 PM
In the end I used an ultimate against Stalwart, too. That is two ultimates in one tournament. Air and Fire used to be very good against the champs, now they can only handle the lower levels.
Another thing is the spa line-up. I'm actually not used to have those, maybe after a tournament a few, but never very much. Now I have 22 :(

Luckily Air defeated Quicksand with one bash at first try, so egg is in storage waiting for a nest :)

sipland
04-27-17, 04:00 PM
I don't see me finishing this tournament (same as many others recently) either. Started out fine, but I have been battling Pyramid round 26 for the past four days. I'm level 200 with many level 15 dragons all of which are lined up at the spa. how many losses do we need for one round? and to make matters worse, I am falling behind in the latest event since I have to win a cloud in battle!

Hard to want to continue playing a game when the only way to keep going is to spend gold.

Have you tried a blue/yellow? After reading about it here, I won on two accounts with Curio. Wishing you luck!

Also, for anyone stuck on Stalwart, I beat him on 2 accounts with Avatar lvl 10 and lvl 8.

DragonThruTime
04-27-17, 04:18 PM
Anyone have any ideas for Stalwart? Nothing is working. I've lost multiple times each with Diamond lvl 15, Passion Lvl 15, Lost love lvl 13. I've also lost with metal lvl 15 (useless dragon. I regret levelling him up), forgefather lvl 15, pyramid lvl 13, black diamond and mercury (lower levels) and several others. I don't have avatar but thanks for the suggestion. I'm thinking this tournament is a no win for me.

Edit......ohhhh, I DO have avatar. Only a level 4 and I used almost all of my food levelling up passion to 15 but I'll give it a try anyway. Thanks sipland.
.......ok, levelled avatar up to 6. It was close but still lost. A higher level may have done it.

....well, Passion finally did it after about the 5th or 6th try. Now it looks like Quicksand is going to,be difficult too. Rainbow Sentinal has already fallen to him. One more try and then it's bedtime....win or lose.

WooHoo! Got it with Hula lvl 13. Off to bed I go. :)

awesome6204
04-27-17, 05:44 PM
Have you tried a blue/yellow? After reading about it here, I won on two accounts with Curio. Wishing you luck!

Also, for anyone stuck on Stalwart, I beat him on 2 accounts with Avatar lvl 10 and lvl 8.

Thanks for the suggestion but my Curio is also now in line for the spa ��

glenngenius
04-27-17, 06:20 PM
Elsa;1414379']It's a known (but not yet identified) and rare bug. You'll be able to use the arena again when the Tournament expires. If anyone else is encountering this, please let me know. :)

I see. But unfortunately, this bug is prohibiting me from finishing my triple bingo which I could have accomplished hours ago. (The task is to win battles in the arena).

DR0G0N
04-27-17, 06:39 PM
Thanks for the suggestion but my Curio is also now in line for the spa 😔

For Pyramid, I used Lost Love 13 and it was a KO using Bash. Good Luck, sometimes you might need to reuse some dragons.

Hartoled
04-27-17, 07:18 PM
Since Diamonds seem to be weak against steroidal Guardians, maybe, instead of Achilles, a plain old Olympus could work?

Lurker2
04-27-17, 07:31 PM
Hi, can someone please help me?

I've just defeated the final round (quicksand dragon) and the prize is already in my storage. But after an hour, the battle tournament continues... This time, round 39 of 38 and level of opponent is 0. Is this a bug or something?

Also, I noticed that most of the players here have 40 rounds. Is there anyone here who only has 38 rounds and has finished it? Thanks! :)


Elsa;1414379']It's a known (but not yet identified) and rare bug. You'll be able to use the arena again when the Tournament expires. If anyone else is encountering this, please let me know. :)

I finished the tournament, got the egg in storage, and somehow got rolled back to round 21.

Hartoled
04-27-17, 07:33 PM
I finished the tournament, got the egg in storage, and somehow got rolled back to round 21.

You still got the egg? Guess you get some bonus fun!

glenngenius
04-27-17, 10:11 PM
I finished the tournament, got the egg in storage, and somehow got rolled back to round 21.

*sigh* at least you got the egg and you are able to use the battle arena. I can't use mine. Still having the same problem. Round 39 of 38, level 0 unidentified opponent. I can't finish my triple bingo becuase of this bug. I tried to refresh the bingo challenge, still the task is about battling in the arena. I hope s8 will fix this issue as it hampers players to finish tasks in their weekly events like bingo. (-_-)

njbhugjjgnj
04-28-17, 06:11 AM
(On main acct) Wound up spending somewhat close to 100 gold on this tourney :( This was a tough battle >_< Thank goodness for gpd's as they pretty much paid for the dragon :p.

gisellepersad
04-28-17, 01:26 PM
Fell asleep on the final round and didnt end up getting quicksand....so mad cuz i wanted all the elemental dragons released so far :(

Hartoled
04-28-17, 07:26 PM
Fell asleep on the final round and didnt end up getting quicksand....so mad cuz i wanted all the elemental dragons released so far :(

Ouch! Hate when that happens. I know I've done that also. 40 rounds, with lvl 20s in there, is exhausting.

I think I've missed an Elemental or two, but I can't say which. They were probably not breedable, limited time to breed, or spin to win, or something like that.

jjblueyes
04-28-17, 10:59 PM
I quit..... reached round 30 ...... now to heal the many wounded in the spa.....
I'm L193 with many many top dragons, this the first tournament I have quit for a long long time ...... !!!
Why learn over years with many previous early losses until I learnt how to fight and win eventually for this situation where nothing learnt works ....and I won't spend gold to ultimate

Man I'm sorry dear. I'm very frustrated by how this whole game is going. Shorter times to do way harder quests. Less rewards for more work.

We both have been playing long enough and have enough huge beasts that we never should get stuck for long, yet we do. Killer whale destroyed me. 20 champ after 20. Not cool. There's no reason someone with 100's of high level fighters should have the results we are getting. I have like 40 champs or something ridiculous like that and most are epic and a few 13-15. Level 15 diamonds.

Starting to stink up in here.

kureka
04-29-17, 01:51 AM
lol i won this tournament with diamond 15, pasision 14 and some common dragons without spending gold, i dont even have any champion dragons
sorry for my bad english