Bingo started 3/15/17

[kimandamelia]

How is it the Bingo league that just started about an hour ago, 21 of the players are already over 6,000 points with 3 over 10,000? Is this serious? How in the world can one even accumulate that many points in an hour?

[harobeda]

Wow! 21 players have that many points?? I've been playing this round of bingo continuously for 1.5 hours and I have 5500 points, spent 15 gold for the 50% boost and a couple hundred gold to speed breed some stuff and I've use one of my 10X crops boost to get through the required rushrooms quickly. Normally I can't really play this hard-core in the first few hours... I just happen to have a different schedule today, permitting me to be aggressive early.

Moral of the story: they spent gold. I haven't seen that competitive of a groups since December when I first got into Gold league. They were out for blood! I normally end up around 20,000 - 25,000 points at the end of the week (I get most of my point in the first couple of days when I want to stake a claim to one of the top 2 places). These days that'll get me into first maybe 2nd place. But, those first few weeks I was in gold league (Dec and beginning of Jan), the winners had massive points and I'd get around 20,000 - 25,000 points just to earn 2 or 5 tickets. If you can last in gold league, eventually you get grouped with people a little more similar to your playing strategy.

[kimandamelia]

Wow! 21 players have that many points?? I've been playing this round of bingo continuously for 1.5 hours and I have 5500 points, spent 15 gold for the 50% boost and a couple hundred gold to speed breed some stuff and I've use one of my 10X crops boost to get through the required rushrooms quickly. Normally I can't really play this hard-core in the first few hours... I just happen to have a different schedule today, permitting me to be aggressive early.

Moral of the story: they spent gold. I haven't seen that competitive of a groups since December when I first got into Gold league. They were out for blood! I normally end up around 20,000 - 25,000 points at the end of the week (I get most of my point in the first couple of days when I want to stake a claim to one of the top 2 places). These days that'll get me into first maybe 2nd place. But, those first few weeks I was in gold league (Dec and beginning of Jan), the winners had massive points and I'd get around 20,000 - 25,000 points just to earn 2 or 5 tickets. If you can last in gold league, eventually you get grouped with people a little more similar to your playing strategy.

I'm in the Gold league and usually place around 10-13. Not this time apparently!! I'm not willing to put out gold for this, especially with the way the game is going since they let so many employees go. So, I guess I'll just have to try whatever I can to play and hope I get a few tickets each week. I just can't imagine how much gold one would spend to get over 10,000 points in one hour.

[JustKay]

In one hour I can gold my way to 5000 points easily. Just focus on the breeding goals. You could probably do it on 250 gold or less. Early on, I think the breeding tends to be easier, and it's only after a few minutes of this does the gold being spent boost my luck enough that it becomes a bit harder to breed the commons they ask for. Relax knowing that once the pecking order is set in your group, things should calm down. That said maybe you should relegate yourself to dropping down a league this round since it will be hard to break a 5000 point lead without spending some gold. It will be easier for you to win tickets in the Silver league (am guessing that many rich serious players must place you in the gold league).

[qawsqaws1]

Darn... I guess I'm never playing Gold level.

[Hartoled]

I've seen a lot of players who went big from the start but didn't have the stamina or will to stay there. People tend to get a lead and try to ride it without working every day. I've taken the first day off, watched who led, and by how much, and then just went to work, not paying attention to what others were doing. I'd just play a boost, once a day, run through a couple of breeding cycles and eventually, the 3000 points or so, each day, would put me on top. Then, just keep a buffer of about what the lead guys did on the first day, and don't let them close that gap. Lots of times, those early leaders would end up 4th or lower.

It's the third place guy you really need to watch. He's the one who will drive what happens as the round winds down. That is, if the Second place guy is on the ball and watching him. You can have a nice lead and those two will catch you, if they are wrestling for those 50 tickets.

Last night, I found myself in 6th place. I wanted 10 tickets, so it was no problem to get to first, everybody was so close. That freaked out the former 1st and 2nd placers, and they poured on a lot of points. I just sat back at 3rd and watched them sweat. I was tempted to leave them messages that all I required was 3rd Place, but they probably would have thought it was a trick. LOL I never bother to trick. If I want it, I take it, and leave no doubts about it.

Now I have a Gold Horizon, a Stellar Aurora, and 555 tickets saved up,so I have just enough to craft every dragon in the Temple. Those 3 Hatching Boosts and 2 Farm Boosts are plenty to keep me for a week.

Usually, a weekly score, for top spot, would run between 20-27K, leaving me a safe margin.

Oh...When I mention "safe margin", I'm referring to the update lag that occurs sometimes, especially in Leaderboards. I've seen the final scores vary a lot from what was visible on my screen at the end of the events.

[FireballFarm]

Why don't the crazy gold spenders just buy the dragons outright? I don't get why so many players keep spending piles of gold week after week just to rack up a huge score and 'best' everyone else on the board. It would be cheaper and easier just to buy the stupid prize dragons from the temple. Plus, if they are spending that much gold, that often, chances are they have the old GPDs... which means: 1. they have an unfair advantage over new players who can't get those GPDs and accrue similar piles of 'free' gold, and 2. they probably have enough gold sitting around to buy the prize dragons without batting an eye.


Lastly, the part that ****s me: despite the months of complaints about changes making the game pay-to-win, apparently people keep buying and spending tons of gold- which plays right into S8's greedy little mitts. They will just keep making things cost more gold if people keep spending gold to finish the events. It's a vicious circle, and choosing to repeatedly spend the ever-increasing amounts of gold to complete the events just keeps pushing the prices and requirements higher and higher. Where does it end?

[Hartoled]

Why don't the crazy gold spenders just buy the dragons outright? I don't get why so many players keep spending piles of gold week after week just to rack up a huge score and 'best' everyone else on the board. It would be cheaper and easier just to buy the stupid prize dragons from the temple. Plus, if they are spending that much gold, that often, chances are they have the old GPDs... which means: 1. they have an unfair advantage over new players who can't get those GPDs and accrue similar piles of 'free' gold, and 2. they probably have enough gold sitting around to buy the prize dragons without batting an eye.


Lastly, the part that ****s me: despite the months of complaints about changes making the game pay-to-win, apparently people keep buying and spending tons of gold- which plays right into S8's greedy little mitts. They will just keep making things cost more gold if people keep spending gold to finish the events. It's a vicious circle, and choosing to repeatedly spend the ever-increasing amounts of gold to complete the events just keeps pushing the prices and requirements higher and higher. Where does it end?

Lots of times the enticement is there to win the stuff instead of purchasing outright. Once you have started down that path there is a tendency to keep trying. You have to set an internal limit on how much you are willing to risk, and, for me, be prepared to do without if that commitment doesn't pay off. Over time, that can cause resentment to build, so the appearance of tinkering with any of the expected or stated behaviors can really sour you on the whole process. Once you reach that point, buying them makes a lot more sense, if you don't mind patronizing the people that you feel put you in that position when it was supposed to be a fun game. (Fun as in winning.)

Another factor that affects that 'internal limit' is how much you value coming out on top, and how good you are at doing it without going totally stupid.

[JustKay]

Why don't the crazy gold spenders just buy the dragons outright? I don't get why so many players keep spending piles of gold week after week just to rack up a huge score and 'best' everyone else on the board. It would be cheaper and easier just to buy the stupid prize dragons from the temple. Plus, if they are spending that much gold, that often, chances are they have the old GPDs... which means: 1. they have an unfair advantage over new players who can't get those GPDs and accrue similar piles of 'free' gold, and 2. they probably have enough gold sitting around to buy the prize dragons without batting an eye.


Another factor that affects that 'internal limit' is how much you value coming out on top, and how good you are at doing it without going totally stupid.

It should be obvious to many that paying more money does not make you "better" at this game. If anything having to pay money IMO, means you didn't "beat" the game. The game forced your hand. So let's establish what drives this type of spending is NOT the game and what is in it, like GPD dragons or even LB trophies.

I suspect for these people (and myself to some extent), it's not about being better at the game, but rather being better than the other people in your group. For a long time DS was missing the social element that makes some other mobile games out there incredibly profitable and famous. The competitive element that comes from being measured against another human being. Bingo and LB add this to DS. Being top of the Bingo chart is not about 50 tickets. It's about being better than that guy at no2. And when someone like this loses in a Bingo round, they will feel more need to re-establish their standing in the next Bingo round, as a form of psuedo-revenge even though it's unlikely they will face-off against the same opponents. There is a certain bully element that pervades through any game with a competitive social element. While this might all sound bad, it's what pays the bills for S8. The frustration you endure now, allows you to keep playing without spending anywhere near as much real money.

I also think there is a higher level of game beyond what the game promotes. Someone out there is talking to another player about just how many Bingo tickets they have saved up. Maybe someone is on a mission to be the first person to report the upper limit imposed on bingo tickets in storage. People who beat in-game goals, find other private goals to achieve. I think in Castle story there's some sort of club for people who've maxed out their inventory across all craft-able inventory items. Even when I think about LB trophies, winning one isn't where it stops. The number of trophies you win puts you in a specific top percentile of the player base. If you have 10 gold LB trophies, the probabilities are 1 in 10 trillion, or something like that.

Some people do this by paying large amounts of money, while others like me, will pick their battles, avoid aggravating others prematurely, and snipe at the end to outwit both my human opponents, and the game's tricks to try to get me to spend real money.

[Hartoled]

My goal for displaying Trophies, is not just having a token of victory, or a cool decoration, but also to inform that I'm going to play hard.

Not allowing anybody to see you beaten once you set your goal on winning, well, that is to inform that if they ever meet you again, it's probably wiser to just wait for you to go away.

As a personal rule, I strive to never allow anybody to win who plays dead and then tries to grab it at the end, from some other player who worked hard but underestimated the need to cement a strong position.

Almost more than the trophies, I value the messages left on my Wall telling me that somebody hopes to never meet up with me again.

None of these reasons are about ego. If anything, other than fairness, they are about saving money in the long run.

If a Sniper presses hard, things just might get stupid.

[harobeda]

Why don't the crazy gold spenders just buy the dragons outright?

The food boosts are a big reason I still go for it- and I enjoy the process of playing bingo. I like the strategy of which dragons to breed, how to get a triple bingo on a difficult board, sometimes how to even get a single bingo! I'm trying to scale back personally... I was playing bingo on 4 accounts (and got Gold Horizon on each), but I've since let all but my main account stop playing bingo. I'm also trying to reduce the gold I use, last week I didn't use any boosts until the last day when 3rd place tried to take it by boosting. So I boosted to keep my place.

Also when/if I stop playing bingo I want enough tickets that when they release the next new ticket dragon I can get it.

[Hartoled]

The food boosts are a big reason I still go for it- and I enjoy the process of playing bingo. I like the strategy of which dragons to breed, how to get a triple bingo on a difficult board, sometimes how to even get a single bingo! I'm trying to scale back personally... I was playing bingo on 4 accounts (and got Gold Horizon on each), but I've since let all but my main account stop playing bingo. I'm also trying to reduce the gold I use, last week I didn't use any boosts until the last day when 3rd place tried to take it by boosting. So I boosted to keep my place.

Also when/if I stop playing bingo I want enough tickets that when they release the next new ticket dragon I can get it.

Some new dragons would be nice. I bet a Diamond Tropic or a nice Guardian hybrid would really stiffen the competition. Ya'll probably know the gaps in existing types better than I.

It can get pretty boring without Bingo, now that we're used to it. But you make a lot of sacrifices to play it.

[JustKay]

Almost more than the trophies, I value the messages left on my Wall telling me that somebody hopes to never meet up with me again.

Wow, I've never gotten those. I've gotten some congrats from a few lower level players in early LBs but now it's pretty silent. I guess my competitors are not that serious about it. I know I've never had to reach the echelons of 50 thousand points.

That said given I do sometimes snipe (but after a fair amount of dedication and work), I would probably write that message on your wall right now knowing there's every possibility we will face off one day :p

[JustKay]

As a personal rule, I strive to never allow anybody to win who plays dead and then tries to grab it at the end, from some other player who worked hard but underestimated the need to cement a strong position.

Almost more than the trophies, I value the messages left on my Wall telling me that somebody hopes to never meet up with me again.

Wow, I've never gotten those. I've gotten some congrats from a few lower level players in early LBs but now it's pretty silent. I guess my competitors are not that serious about it. I know I've never had to reach the echelons of 50 thousand points.

[JustKay]

As a personal rule, I strive to never allow anybody to win who plays dead and then tries to grab it at the end, from some other player who worked hard but underestimated the need to cement a strong position.

Almost more than the trophies, I value the messages left on my Wall telling me that somebody hopes to never meet up with me again.

Wow, I've never gotten those. I've gotten some congrats from a few lower level players in early LBs but now it's pretty silent. I guess my competitors are not that serious about it. I know I've never had to reach the echelons of 50 thousand points. I might pay you a visit one day to admire your trophy case :)

I should probably write that message on your wall now ;) I do sometimes have to snipe at the end, but that's usually after a decent effort and dedication for the whole duration. It's just more gold efficient to avoid getting into a long drawn out bidding war. If there was no "boosting" and if the wheel wasn't more generous to lower ranks than the group leader, I'd probably not bother holding back and then sniping. It just makes no logical sense to self-defeat.

[JustKay]

Am also just realising Bingo is for those really dedicated players who have all breedable dragons. They have nothing else to do in the game other than farming so in a way Bingo gives them fresh goals in the game to keep them interested and playing. Any time they are not playing DS, they might be stolen away by a different new game. So these players are not really playing for tickets either. They just want to keep getting new challenges.

[Hartoled]

It's just more gold efficient to avoid getting into a long drawn out bidding war. If there was no "boosting" and if the wheel wasn't more generous to lower ranks than the group leader, I'd probably not bother holding back and then sniping. It just makes no logical sense to self-defeat.

That makes total sense. The Wheel acts like a rubber band tethering you to the ones behind. You can hold the lead and your entire day's effort at breeding and hatching might be awarded to them every few hours.

Staying with the pack so that they expend their resources instead of benefiting from yours, is the logical way to proceed, rather than being the tide that raises all boats.

Then again, I've seen people boost to get all of the milestones out of the way, pretty often, and then they just kinda check out.

[JustKay]

Then again, I've seen people boost to get all of the milestones out of the way, pretty often, and then they just kinda check out.

Whaaa? I want to have someone like that. boost to raise the tide and carry everyone else up, and then forget to compete for the final prize.

That said one far-gone leader doesn't carry everyone else up. The wheel will only ever help you get up to a particular rank and if you're all slackers, then that one leader will maintain their lead. That's why I still boost and prep before an LB. If you knock yourself all the way out of the park one or two hours after the start, everyone else will kinda give up and the remaining players will not even try to keep up with you. Even if one or two gives chase, that still leaves the rank and file way way back. This way you can keep your lead. It's only if you get a lot of chasers, then that's when the wheel really really starts to rubber band everyone in the group up. I had this in the last FFS LB. Most of the people in the group of us were changing places for 3rd place. It was such a close race with only one or two people actually boosting, everyone else was getting a free ride. I had to use my trophy demonstration and regular prying visits to convince others I was very serious and to not go the extra steps to contend for the final prize. Only 2 boosted at the end, and we were bidding up in smaller increments.

[Hartoled]

Thursday is about over and I still only have 60 points in the current Bingo. I have a Shoreline evolving for the battle they wish us to win, a Plague Doctor in the other Evo Temple, another Shoreline hatching, a Cloud Rider hatching, another Cloud Rider in the Spell Shop, the Wish Dragon trying to get out of Storage, and two dragons for Bingo on the Roosts. Too many things are going on at once. The leaderboard excuse to spend some gold to get some of the stuff off of my plate is welcome, at this point.

[BNDCOOPER]

What are the "Champion" Dragons? What level is an "epic" dragon?

[harobeda]

What are the "Champion" Dragons? What level is an "epic" dragon?

Look at the regular bingo thread for answers to questions such as these.

Juvenile means freshly evolved to level 4. Adult means to level 7. Epic means to level 10. Champion dragons are not breedeable - see photo for the type.

[giddyjan]

Is it possible to not participate in a Bingo or does that mean you get out to the league below

[savage_mel]

Is it possible to not participate in a Bingo or does that mean you get out to the league below
you will go to the league below if you don't participate

[AwesomeChefDad]

I noticed that they are not rewarding the winner of the lowest level anymore, I am not sure what that is about but it happened to me twice. The Timber or whatever it is, no prize for winning several times.

Made it easy for me to quit the whole thing for sure.

[remybimmies]

Hello,
I'm new to this forum, so I'm not sure I'm posting in the right place... please excuse me, if I'm not.

I had a query about Bingo. When a challenge is 'Breed a genie dragon', does it matter when I start the challenge as long as it is before I click on the breeding roost to start hatching the egg? Or do I have to start the challenge before I select my breeding pair for the roost?

Thanks for any help!

[harobeda]

Hello,
I'm new to this forum, so I'm not sure I'm posting in the right place... please excuse me, if I'm not.

I had a query about Bingo. When a challenge is 'Breed a genie dragon', does it matter when I start the challenge as long as it is before I click on the breeding roost to start hatching the egg? Or do I have to start the challenge before I select my breeding pair for the roost?

Thanks for any help!

You have to click the task before it moves from breeding den to the nest. So I'd wait until AFTER you've selected the breeding pair so you can see if the hours match up. If it doesn't then you aren't waiting forever on just that one task. If it does have the correct time and appears to be the dragon you want, just be sure to start the task before you place the egg.

[remybimmies]

You have to click the task before it moves from breeding den to the nest. So I'd wait until AFTER you've selected the breeding pair so you can see if the hours match up. If it doesn't then you aren't waiting forever on just that one task. If it does have the correct time and appears to be the dragon you want, just be sure to start the task before you place the egg.

Thank you!