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chippychan

07-17-15, 12:38 PM

The charts listed in this thread are not updated by member anymore. Please see new Battle Chart (https://forums.storm8.com/showthread.php?101491-Fantasy-Forest-Main-Guide&p=1463666&viewfull=1#post1463666) in Main Guide for latest updates.

I'm closing this thread to avoid further confusion and since the charts are outdated. Please continue your discussion and posting your results in this new thread. Thanks.

Thread: Battlegrounds and Tournaments - discussion and test results (https://forums.storm8.com/showthread.php?102175-Battlegrounds-and-Tournaments-discussion-and-test-results)

Battlegrounds & Tournaments Strategy Guide

This thread is dedicated to figuring out which attacks are best (and worst) against the opponents that are found in both the Battleground and the Tournaments. I am making all of this information available here so ANYONE can make their own chart (if they want to) when a new Battlegrounds or Tournament shows up.

My goal is to keep these first posts as up-to-date as possible with the help of everyone by discussing any conflicting information or changes in this thread.
I know there are other threads about this topic, but I would like to keep this one separate with the first few posts as updated as possible (some of those older threads haven't had the first post updated in months & it's hard to dig through the posts to find current information). I would also like to request that this thread be kept in the 'Discussions' section of the Fantasy Forest Story forums since it really is all about on-going discussions of our results and compiling information.

These charts are always a work-in-progress! The information in the chart is currently based on re-testing all strengths/weaknesses. There have been changes to some elements' attacks and I'm currently compiling as much up-to-date information as possible. If you get a result that is different please post about it so we can discuss it.

***Please don't post about CRITICAL hits since those don't indicate the attack's strength.***
The first few posts in the Making Sense of the Battlegrounds (https://forums.storm8.com/showthread.php?73180-Making-Sense-of-the-Battleground)thread is useful for explaining attack strengths & the theories behind finding the best fighters to use.

There is a LOT of information so I am breaking this up into multiple sections across the next few posts.

chippychan

07-17-15, 12:38 PM

Recommended Fighters (Part 1)
(pure element opponents)

Recommended Fighters to Use *

* The following are recommended to help choose the ideal fighter based on tested strengths/weaknesses, as well as highest rarity. The theory behind choosing an ideal fighter is that an animal of higher rarity may have better odds of landing a 'Critical' against an opponent when using an attack that normally registers a 'Strong' hit. It is also theorized that a high-level fighter may have better odds. It's not a guarantee to win with one of these fighters, but it may increase your odds. Note that ANY animal of ANY level or rarity has a chance of landing a winning 'Critical' using ANY element (even 'Weak' ones).

If you get a result that is different then what is listed here please post about it so we can discuss it.

Opponent’s Element

Recommended Fighter *

Elements to Use/Avoid

Fire
Water-Earth. Saintly Bernard. Or {earth, water or service} with {anything but nature or dark}

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5806/21488807683_28c09aeb52_o.jpg

Nature
Ruby Razorback. Crystal Unicorn. Spring. Or {fire, gemstone or halloween} with {anything but earth}

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5630/23650243286_0ede7e3b62_o.jpg

Earth
Emerald Dragon. Crystal Unicorn. Or {gemstone or nature} with {anything but fire or electric}

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/660/21137892519_8aa2fef8ee_o.jpg

Water
Matripony. Or {electric, christmas, or valentine} with {anything but fire}

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/767/22155594644_4e9a1438d8_o.jpg

Dark
Treasure. Treent. Caturn. Or {fire or cosmic} with {anything but gemstone}

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5829/22384438896_94e7f864a2_o.jpg

Electric
Shamrock. Melodeer. Autumn. Deadwing. Or {earth, music or skull} with {anything but water or valentine}

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5809/22435403995_82a283cac4_o.jpg

Gemstone
Treasure. Trick-or-Treent. Treent. Or {dark} with {anything but nature or earth}

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5770/21137892199_7328eeaccc_o.jpg

Treasure
Egyptian. Deadwing. Or {nature, christmas or skull} with {anything but dark or gemstone}

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/772/21879582663_53ffa28505_o.jpg

Living Wood
{Dark or halloween} alone, or with {anything but gemstone}

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5660/22552806066_8865df67b5_o.jpg

Valentine
{Electric} alone, or with {anything but water}

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5809/22439798728_450707c03d_o.jpg

Shamrock
Deadwing. Or {electric or skull} alone, or with {anything but fire}

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1483/24242813090_6c6afe952f_o.jpg

Cosmic
Saintly Bernard. Or {earth or service} alone, or with {anything but dark}

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5830/22038509365_36a4eafe6f_o.jpg

Spring
Autumn. Santa Claws {christmas}.

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5728/23475196780_bc3f079717_o.jpg
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Music
{Water} alone, or with {anything}

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5700/21314118772_dd33206685_o.jpg

Ice Cream
Egyptian. Or {fire} alone, or with {anything but earth or skull}

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5747/23770872025_ccc267b1c7_o.jpg

Egyptian
Treent. Water-Nature. Or {nature or water} alone, or with {anything but gemstone}

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5818/21866512780_8ea3f1ec35_o.jpg

Service
Treasure. Melodeer.

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5825/22247707978_2dc1416ea7_o.jpg

Autumn
{Gemstone} with {fire}. Crystal Unicorn. Caturn. Ice Cream. Or {fire or cosmic} alone, or with {anything but water or electric}

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5746/23662393212_6d42c5b07c_o.jpg

Skull
(not tested yet)

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5624/21299143866_9f5ae7a357_o.jpg

(continued in next post… I need to split it into 2 parts to accommodate the number of images in each post)

chippychan

07-17-15, 12:39 PM

Recommended Fighters (Part 2)
(sorted by element-type of opponent)

Recommended Fighters to Use *

* The following are recommended to help choose the ideal fighter based on tested strengths/weaknesses, as well as highest rarity. The theory behind choosing an ideal fighter is that an animal of higher rarity may have better odds of landing a 'Critical' against an opponent when using an attack that normally registers a 'Strong' hit. It is also theorized that a high-level fighter may have better odds. It's not a guarantee to win with one of these fighters, but it may increase your odds. Note that ANY animal of ANY level or rarity has a chance of landing a winning 'Critical' using ANY element (even 'Weak' ones).

If you get a result that is different then what is listed here please post about it so we can discuss it.

Opponent’s Element

Recommended Fighter *

Elements to Use/Avoid

Nature-Fire
{Gemstone} with {fire or water}. Crystal Unicorn. Wild Wondercat. Spring. Saintly Bernard. Or {fire, water, gemstone or halloween} together, or with {anything but nature, dark or christmas}

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5646/23722357452_c393d833fc_o.jpg

Earth-Fire
{Gemstone} with {earth or water}. Crystal Unicorn. Water-Earth. Saintly Bernard. Or {service, water or earth} with {nature}

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/706/22446321301_9a709308a4_o.jpg

Water-Fire
Matripony. Saintly Bernard. Or any combination of the following elements: {earth, electric, water, valentine, or service}

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1703/23828824429_6bba96ae33_o.jpg

Dark-Fire
Treasure. Wild Wondercat. Rocking Horse. Treent. Caturn. Saintly Bernard. Or any combination of the following elements: {fire, earth, water, cosmic, or service}

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/647/21352614662_c2a22edc04_o.jpg

Electric-Fire
Melodeer. Saintly Bernard. Or {earth, music, service or skull} with {fire, water, or electric}.

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5675/22397251802_0fb37ac944_o.jpg

Gemstone-Fire
Treasure. Treent. Egyptian. Saintly Bernard. Deadwing. Or {water or skull} with {anything but nature}

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5766/22670214880_97d0c44535_o.jpg

Christmas-Fire
Lionhart. {Earth or halloween} alone, or with {anything but nature}

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5700/23535056170_812102f385_o.jpg

Valentine-Fire
{Earth, electric or christmas} alone, or with {anything but dark or nature}

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5665/23376740009_da845c48e4_o.jpg

Music-Fire
Water-Earth. Or {water or earth} alone, or with {anything but nature, dark, or electric}

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/702/23203946413_4e605a20ca_o.jpg

Service-Fire
Melodeer. Saintly Bernard. Water-Earth. Or {earth, water, music or service}

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/640/22397251542_5e602e2992_o.jpg

Skull-Fire
Valentine. Saintly Bernard. Water-Earth. Or {earth, water, valentine or service} alone, or with {fire or dark}

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/570/22669849440_eee73f9b09_o.jpg

Halloween-Fire
Spring. Water-Earth. Or {earth or water} alone, or with {anything but nature or dark}

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/769/22465766969_3e79eb7506_o.jpg

Earth-Nature
Emerald Dragon. Crystal Unicorn. Spring. Or {nature, gemstone or halloween} with {fire, water, dark or xmas}

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5749/21878044324_109c523831_o.jpg

Water-Nature
Citrine Peregrin. Crystal Unicorn. Matripony. Spring. Autumn. Or {electric, gemstone, christmas, or valentine} with {anything but earth}

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5830/22410423805_3345267b57_o.jpg

Dark-Nature
Treent. Caturn. Spring. Saintly Bernard. Halloween. Or {fire, cosmic, service or halloween} with {anything but earth}

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1616/23910183444_39f4d14827_o.jpg

Electric-Nature
Ruby Razorback. Crystal Unicorn. Shamrock. Spring. Melodeer. Autumn. Deadwing. Or {fire, gemstone, music, skull or halloween} with {anything but water or valentine}

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5666/22391969039_c1004545a1_o.jpg

Gemstone-Nature
{Gemstone} with {fire or dark}. Crystal Unicorn. Swan Prince. Trick-or-Treent. Treent. Spring. Deadwing. Or {gemstone, fire or dark} alone, or with {water or electric}

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5779/22312834770_efb7cabd52_o.jpg

Christmas-Nature
{Gemstone} with {fire or dark}. Crystal Unicorn. Swan Prince. Or {fire, dark, gemstone or halloween} with {anything but earth or water}.

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/676/21987651193_ac99c52a3d_o.jpg

Skull-Nature
Saintly Bernard. {Fire, service or halloween} alone, or with {anything but electric}

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/703/23116624954_e9bf8d575e_o.jpg

Halloween-Nature
Shamrock. Spring. Wild Wondercat. Or {fire, water or halloween} alone, or with {anything but nature, earth or christmas}.

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5788/23662317181_1068f7e36f_o.jpg

Water-Earth
Emerald Dragon. Crystal Unicorn. Matripony. Ice Cream. Autumn. Or {nature, christmas, or valentine} with {anything but fire}

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/566/22391968039_46be109139_o.jpg

Dark-Earth
Treasure. Treent. Saintly Bernard. Or {nature or service} with {anything but electric, xmas or skull}

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5666/22565237932_6245cb809b_o.jpg

Electric-Earth
{Gemstone} with {nature or earth}. Crystal Unicorn. Shamrock. Autumn. Nature-Earth. Or {nature or earth} with {dark}

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/659/21413961654_31bec0ef8d_o.jpg

Gemstone-Earth
{Gemstone} with {dark}. Crystal Unicorn. Treasure. Trick-or-Treent. Treent. Egyptian. Or {dark} with {nature or water}

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5724/22012635552_4588efb9f2_o.jpg

Valentine-Earth
Emerald Dragon. Crystal Unicorn. Or {gem or nature} with {anything but fire or water}

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5780/23135701930_6aa26a2959_o.jpg

Cosmic-Earth
{Gemstone} with {nature or earth}. Crystal Unicorn. Saintly Bernard. Nature-Earth. Or {nature or earth} with {water}

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5740/21981905043_205e3f148c_o.jpg

Music-Earth
{Gemstone} with {nature or water}. Crystal Unicorn. Water-Nature. Or {nature, water or gemstone} with {anything but fire or electric}

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/757/22804327863_5ac5a43a27_o.jpg

Service-Earth
{Gemstone} with {nature}. Crystal Unicorn. Treasure. Melodeer. Or {nature, gem, christmas or music} with anything but {fire, dark, electric or skull}

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/756/22248615209_dfd049f0b2_o.jpg

Halloween-Earth
(not tested yet)

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5624/21299143866_9f5ae7a357_o.jpg

Dark-Water
Treasure. Valentine. Caturn. Saintly Bernard. Autumn. Or {electric, cosmic, or service} with {anything but gemstone}

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/587/22752369776_d578c6133c_o.jpg

Electric-Water
Shamrock. Autumn. Electric-Earth. Or {earth, electric, christmas or skull} with {nature or dark}

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5732/22590003081_de9c9d6b85_o.jpg

Gemstone-Water
Treasure. Matripony. Saintly Bernard. Deadwing. Electric-Dark. Or {dark, electric or skull} alone, or with {water}

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5800/22639252240_4e66d2be3a_o.jpg

Cosmic-Water
Matripony. Saintly Bernard. Earth-Electric. Or {earth, electric or valentine} with {anything but fire, water, dark, or halloween}

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/717/23190170171_54e60a96ae_o.jpg

Electric-Dark
Treasure. Rocking Horse. Treent. Shamrock. Caturn. Melodeer. Saintly Bernard. Deadwing. Or any combination of the following elements: {fire, earth, cosmic, music, service, skull}

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5713/22248614669_9c695b6d5e_o.jpg

Gemstone-Dark
Treasure. Swan Prince. Trick-or-Treent. Treent. Caturn. Egyptian. Dark-Fire. Or {dark or fire} with {anything but nature, earth or gemstone}

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/566/20704186354_7f329211a7_o.jpg

Living Wood-Dark
Swan Prince. Treasure. Treent. Trick-or-Treent. Caturn. Saintly Bernard. Or {fire, dark, cosmic or service} with anything but {water}

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/738/22390828460_2940027011_o.jpg

Gemstone-Electric
Treasure. Trick-or-Treent. Treent. Shamrock. Melodeer. Egyptian. Skull. Or {dark or music} with {fire, earth or electric}

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5634/23567736182_61b19b3e9a_o.jpg

chippychan

07-17-15, 12:39 PM

Recommended Fighters (Part 3)
(reserved for future use to accommodate the ever-expanding variety of opponent types)

chippychan

07-17-15, 12:40 PM

Testing Charts

I made a chart to print off for testing purposes and wanted to share it here in case anyone was interested in it. The first column of the chart shows the OPPONENT'S ELEMENT(S), and the other columns show the corresponding attack result AGAINST the opponent.

S = STRONG attack
N = NEUTRAL attack (neutral attacks don't show any text when you use it against an opponent)
W = WEAK attack

I am attaching 2 versions of this chart:

1. My filled-in chart with testing results
2. A blank chart for anyone who wants to print it off & start their own testing

This chart is always a work-in-progress! New elements can be introduced any time and I will try to upload new charts for tested as soon as possible if this happens. If you ever find any discrepancies please post about it.

***Please don't record CRITICAL hits since those don't indicate the attack's strength.***

Anything marked in RED hasn't been re-tested by me or it needs verification.

Current Test Chart Results:

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1448/24170587349_f520e72c9f_o.jpg

Blank Test Chart:

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/665/22394720356_4717e12093_o.jpg

reeisme

07-17-15, 01:38 PM

Whew, that's enough info for now. Sorry if it's overwhelming, I've been working on this for quite a while and have been trying to find the most simplistic way to organize it. I hope it makes sense to people! :)

This is awesome! I wasn't able to directly update the jpeg you attached, but it only took a couple minutes to paste it into Excel and retype headings in the order you gave them. I'll update and attach my results later today from the Wyburn battleground which was the first time I tracked my weak, neutral, and strong attacks (which I guess turned out to be a good thing since so much has changed).

It can be a bit difficult to tease out which of the elements your attack is interacting with so I think this is wonderful. I'm still wondering whether the weirdness with Shamrock as an opponent vs using Shamrock to attack (typically would just be the reverse but isn't) is an error made by TL or is just an anomaly.

Update: Ok, here are my own results. I left everything blank that I didn't personally test during Wyburn. I did code a few of mine as critical as a note to myself to retest those immediately. If there is anything that looks off, it may just be a typo. (I did my best to double and triple check but mistakes happen.) I also had to split the document into two pages because the print was not legible otherwise.

21792 21793

reeisme

07-18-15, 01:56 AM

I also have some notes for your Pure Elements chart. Hopefully not too overwhelming and I won't be the least bit offended if you hold off on making changes until there is additional testing. Just use whatever you like and disregard whatever else. Not a big deal.

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1. Against fire - add avoid ice cream, shamrock
*based on round 50 Tubacan (music/fire) weak attacks using ice cream and shamrock. Round 42 Pygmy (earth/fire) shamrock was weak, round 45 Razorback (gem/fire) shamrock was weak

2. Against nature - change use nature to use fire
*based on level 80 Wyburn (nature/fire) fire was strong (also attacks against nature/earth animals were neutral as expected due to fire being strong against nature but weak to earth).

3. Against earth - add use ice cream
*based on round 15 Werewolf (earth/nature) ice cream attack was strong

4. Against dark - change avoid living wood to use living wood
*based on round 9 Peamoth (dark/nature) living wood was strong, round 46 Chromodile (dark/water) living wood was neutral (due to it being strong against dark, weak against water), round 51 Dream bat (dark/earth) living wood was strong, round 59 Dread panda and round 60 (dark/fire) living wood was strong, round 75 Jade Kirin (gem/dark) living wood was strong.

5. Against electric - add use shamrock
*based on round 43 Shockatoo (electric/nature) shamrock was strong, round 54 Citrine peregrine (gem/electric) shamrock was strong. Also, attacks on electric/fire animals were neutral in round 22 (Fire glider) and round 40 (dare devil).

6. Against treasure - add to avoid gem (only if you feel we can assume that since treasure is a strong attack against gem then gem should be a weak attack against treasure. This seems to be the case for every element except shamrock vs fire or electric, but I have no gems animals to verify this.)

7. Against living wood - change use dark to use water* and move dark to the avoid category (We didn't face a Treent in the last battlegrounds so totally your choice whether you feel this can be assumed based on living wood's attacks on opponents. Living wood's attacks on dark are already listed above.)
*based on round 32 Aquatter (water/nature) living wood was weak, round 36 Conducktor (electric/water) living wood was weak, round 38 Iciclaw (water/earth) living wood was weak, round 44 Tesllama (electric/water) living wood was weak.

8. Against cosmic - add to avoid dark
*based on round 5 Plutopus (cosmic/water) dark was weak, round 76 against Caturn (cosmic) dark was weak.

9. Against music - if music is strong against electric then isn't electric weak to music? I can't confirm this as I have no music animals to use.

chippychan

07-18-15, 05:04 AM

Thank so much for all that info reeisme, it helps a ton!

I'll integrate the results from your test chart into the main one I have and will update the posts soon with the new info. :)

EDIT: You've confirmed a lot of attacks that I hadn't tested yet, thanks! However I found we have conflicting results for a few attacks. I've added them to the 'Current Unknowns', so we need confirmation of the following:

Against Cosmic - DARK attack (weak or neutral?)
Against Electric/Fire - NATURE attack (strong or weak?)
Against Electric/Water - LIVING WOOD attack (weak or neutral?)

Unfortunately both my accounts are done the Battlegrounds so I have to wait until the next tournament to start testing again. I'm hoping there's a 30-round tournament with the next update. :)

epinederose

07-19-15, 12:13 AM

Xmas (Xmas Lion) is strong against Treasure-Golden retriever
havent read all the posts, but think it could be a small help
:o

chippychan

07-21-15, 12:02 PM

Xmas (Xmas Lion) is strong against Treasure-Golden retriever
havent read all the posts, but think it could be a small help
:o

Thanks for the confirmation, I really appreciate it! :)

I'll be updating this post starting in a few hours (just have to finish with some work first) and it will most likely be an ongoing thing for the next few days thanks to the current tournament.

Hawksmoor

07-21-15, 12:15 PM

This is amazing chippy, thank you! Thank you for all of your hard work!

Ca7007

07-21-15, 12:18 PM

Wow, thanks for putting in so much effort into creating this thread, Chippy! Really helpful for tournaments and battlegrounds :)

chippychan

07-21-15, 03:37 PM

It's my pleasure, I just hope it helps. :)

ninasidstorm8

07-21-15, 05:15 PM

Chippychan, Thanks for the information and the work you have done in this thread.

I have been keeping a similar chart since the Charger Battleground. I have tested the following combinations that you are missing if it helps. I used the chart you posted in the Tournament! 07/21/15 - Wombattery thread, post #9 as a reference. I have only included items that I tested in the Wyburn Battleground so all these items were tested July 8, 2015 or after. I am only on round 33 of the Wyburn battleground and have a few special animals that I keep at low levels just for battleground testing. I will monitor this thread to see what items you need data for.

Fire Attacked by Icecream = Weak Attack
Nature attacked by Water = Neutral
Nature attacked by Dark = Neutral
Dark Attacked by Earth = Neutral
Dark Attacked by Valentine = Neutral
Spring attacked by Gem = Neutral
Earth/Fire attacked by xMas = Weak Attack
Dark/Fire attacked by Gem = Weak Attack
Dark/Fire attacked by xMas = Weak Attack
Dark/Earth attacked by xMas = Weak Attack
Cosmic/Earth attacked by xMas = Neutral
Dark/Water attacked by xMas = Neutral
Electric/Water attacked by xMas = Strong Attack
Electric/Water attacked by Living Wood = Weak Attack <== Change from RED result in your chart

cocauina

07-21-15, 05:27 PM

chippychan on your table from second post

Against nature, it's fire instead of nature.
Against dark, fire is strong.
Against gem, tree, dark and treasure are strong.

Tree is weak to dark, I have tasted and have a screenshot if you want
Music is weak to electric

chippychan

07-21-15, 05:55 PM

ninasidstorm8 and cocauina, thank you so much!

The charts should be updated momentarily. :)

Hawksmoor

08-04-15, 06:29 PM

Hi everyone. Testing out my Bastet in the Battleground. I can confirm that "Egypt" (not sure what else to call it) is STRONG against Treasure. I'll post more as I test it.

chippychan

08-07-15, 06:24 AM

Hi everyone. Testing out my Bastet in the Battleground. I can confirm that "Egypt" (not sure what else to call it) is STRONG against Treasure. I'll post more as I test it.

Awesome, thanks!

I'm working on updating the first few posts since I've also done some more testing with other elements. I was hoping to place the Egyptian habitat and get an animal out of storage before the next tournament but I'm short on space and with the current world event I don't want to give up a farm right now.

So any info anyone can provide info on the 'Egypt' element (I think that's a good name for it :) ) it would be most appreciated.

HappyHeartBakery

08-07-15, 08:42 AM

Thanks Chippy! Very helpful.
When do we think the next tournament will be??

ninasidstorm8

08-07-15, 09:44 AM

Thanks Chippy! Very helpful.
When do we think the next tournament will be??

If S8 follows the current schedule, we will have a full 30 round tournament on Tuesday.

Hawksmoor

08-07-15, 12:04 PM

If S8 follows the current schedule, we will have a full 30 round tournament on Tuesday.

That's what I'm thinking too, or an animal "trio" event.

Hawksmoor

08-08-15, 09:33 AM

Awesome, thanks!

I'm working on updating the first few posts since I've also done some more testing with other elements. I was hoping to place the Egyptian habitat and get an animal out of storage before the next tournament but I'm short on space and with the current world event I don't want to give up a farm right now.

So any info anyone can provide info on the 'Egypt' element (I think that's a good name for it :) ) it would be most appreciated.

Egypt is neutral against Spring

Hawksmoor

08-08-15, 09:45 AM

Egypt is Weak against water/nature

SummerNightSky

08-08-15, 12:51 PM

Egypt is Weak against water/nature
Yay, it's weak against a non-event type that isn't treasure or gem! Now to nerf Spring a little *hint hint TL/S8* ;)

What all have you tested it against? I'm kind of bored, so I'm considering leveling my Bastet up to 9 and see about doing some Battlegrounds stuff lol

Hawksmoor

08-08-15, 01:19 PM

Hi everyone. Testing out my Bastet in the Battleground. I can confirm that "Egypt" (not sure what else to call it) is STRONG against Treasure. I'll post more as I test it.

Egypt is neutral against Spring

Egypt is Weak against water/nature

Yay, it's weak against a non-event type that isn't treasure or gem! Now to nerf Spring a little *hint hint TL/S8* ;)

What all have you tested it against? I'm kind of bored, so I'm considering leveling my Bastet up to 9 and see about doing some Battlegrounds stuff lol

Those are my results so far. One more to add:

Egypt is WEAK against water/earth

zaccy678

08-08-15, 01:56 PM

I really wish we'd get a new battleground rather than another tournament... :(

SummerNightSky

08-08-15, 02:23 PM

Those are my results so far. One more to add:

Egypt is WEAK against water/earth
Hmm...looking like it's weak against water (which makes sense in a way, considering so much of Egypt is desert). Where's a Frostfang when you need one lol. Thanks for letting me know, I'll see if I can add anything helpful.

My results:
Egypt vs. Dark/Water --> Weak
Egypt vs. Water/Nature --> Weak (not new info, but figured I'd record it anyway)
Egypt vs. Dark/Nature --> Weak
Egypt vs. Fire --> Neutral
Egypt vs. Electric/Fire --> Neutral (so Egypt is definitely neutral against Electric)

Considering Egypt is neutral against Fire but Hawksmoor found that Egypt is weak to Water/Fire, this means that Egypt is definitely weak against Water.

Hawksmoor

08-08-15, 04:43 PM

Egypt is also weak to water/fire

sweetdeda

08-08-15, 05:07 PM

I really wish we'd get a new battleground rather than another tournament... :(

I'm with you on this.

Buttercup0001

08-09-15, 03:53 PM

Testing out my Bastet in the battleground.
My Bastet is on level 10

I can confirm Hawksmoor findings in the above posts.

Egypt vs icecream......I got 3 strong hits against it.
Egypt vs Spring........3 hits, no messages, neutral????

Hawksmoor

08-09-15, 05:49 PM

Egypt is neutral against electric/fire.

Oops, just saw this result was already posted by SummerNight. Thanks!

chippychan

08-10-15, 05:27 AM

Thanks to everyone for all the great info! I was offline most of the weekend but I hope to have things updated today. :)

RowanaFarrin

08-10-15, 06:20 AM

Egypt is Weak against Electric/Nature when I tried it.

I think based on other posts it could be weak to nature as well as water? I'll keep trying rounds and see what I can find.

Neutral to Electric/Earth too. (Hope I'm not just repeating things we already know!)

Strong against Gem/Fire! ( It was versus Ruby Razorback)

Hawksmoor

08-10-15, 11:40 AM

Egypt is weak against nature/fire

Hawksmoor

08-10-15, 12:03 PM

Egypt is Strong against Jade Kirin (gem/dark)

chippychan

08-10-15, 12:33 PM

Looking through what's been posted it seems like the following is true:

Egypt in STRONG against: Gem, Treasure, Ice Cream
Egypt is WEAK against: Nature, Water

It seems neutral to other standard (non-event) elements so far.

The other event-only elements that still need to be tested are: Xmas, Valentine, Shamrock, Cosmic, Music, Egypt, and Living Wood (not really an 'event-only' element, but it's a unique one).

Hawksmoor

08-10-15, 01:55 PM

Egypt is neutral against Cosmic

Buttercup0001

08-12-15, 02:31 AM

Egypt is neutral to dark/earth.

chippychan

08-12-15, 05:58 AM

Thanks!

I've made some updates today and I finally figured out how to imbed an image the test chart right-side-up instead of attaching it as a sideways jpg image. Woo hoo! :)

Buttercup0001

08-12-15, 04:28 PM

Egypt vs Electric/dark 3 neutral hits.
Egypt vs dark/fire 3 neutral hits.
Egypt vs dark/earth 3 weak attacks
Egypt vs dark/nature 3 weak attacks

Apologies if any of these results have been posted previously.

RowanaFarrin

08-13-15, 06:21 AM

Egypt(Bastet) was Neutral against Music/Earth (Lullabison)
Also Neutral against Music/Fire (Tubacan)

chippychan

08-14-15, 05:04 AM

Thanks! :)

I've updated the first few posts.

Hawksmoor

08-14-15, 04:25 PM

Thanks! :)

I've updated the first few posts.

Thanks for all the updates chippy!

Allizhon

08-14-15, 05:04 PM

SummerNightSky

08-14-15, 06:15 PM

I'm new, but can someone explain something to me? I just beat level 9 of the battlegrounds. It was a level 2 pyre pony against my level 8 pyre pony. Why was the baby able to knock my pony's hp into the orange range with one normal attack? The previous battle was a level 2 pandaffodil and it kicked my pony's butt the first time, despite the pyre pony apparently being strong against it. Am I supposed to be at such a disadvantage against low-level opponents?
The battles often don't make much sense in this game, as you've already noticed. For most battles, you are required to get a critical hit to be able to win. All you can do is choose your highest level, rarest animal that is strong against your opponent and wait to get a critical hit.

Allizhon

08-14-15, 06:21 PM

The battles often don't make much sense in this game, as you've already noticed. For most battles, you are required to get a critical hit to be able to win. All you can do is choose your highest level, rarest animal that is strong against your opponent and wait to get a critical hit.

Well, that's too bad. Thank you for the explanation!

SummerNightSky

08-14-15, 06:52 PM

Well, that's too bad. Thank you for the explanation!
No problem! I wish I could give you a different answer.

RowanaFarrin

08-19-15, 06:31 AM

Egypt was Neutral against Shamrock! (If that hasn't been tested yet)

HappyHeartBakery

08-19-15, 10:13 AM

Thanks! :)

I've updated the first few posts.

I'm not seeing Egypt info updated on the 1st page? Is it somewhere else? I so appreciate these charts & live by them for battles, especially without any gem/treasure animals yet

chippychan

08-20-15, 05:23 AM

Egypt was Neutral against Shamrock! (If that hasn't been tested yet)

Thanks! :)
I've been a little busy this week but should have a chance to make some updates today/tomorrow.

I'm not seeing Egypt info updated on the 1st page? Is it somewhere else? I so appreciate these charts & live by them for battles, especially without any gem/treasure animals yet

The Egypt element is there, we just haven't had an Egypt opponent to test other attacks against. The first few posts have been updated with where Egypt is 'Strong' or 'Weak' against certain elements (that we know of).

eva178

08-24-15, 07:58 PM

Graphic Chart

I'm putting together a couple charts that show the element strengths/weakness using the game's elemental graphics instead of words since some people find it easier to glance at the pictures for reference. :)

It's a work-in-progress and will be provided here as soon as it's ready.

When do you think that will be done, and posted here?!?
I'm really appreciate you're work here!

ogreve

08-31-15, 04:25 AM

I'm a little bit lost on the strengths of the Egypt element.
Is it at present still strong against Treasure, Gem and Icecream?
Also: to which elements is it weak?

As I suspect a 30-round tournament to start tomorrow, I've first leveled up my Prince Swan to epic level, and then I started doing the same to the Anubis (I think the Ra is prettier at epic level but it has the costs of leveling up an ultra rare, so the Anubis it is...). It needs 9600 more food (of which I already have 3366) and then its evolution. I'm doing so by planting Charm Cherries, so it should be at epic level before tomorrow's update.

Is there anything we need to retest regarding the Egypt (or other elements)?

As for the Prince Swan: I gave it a few test spins in the Wyburn battleground and it's a kick-*ss fighter! As I now have the addition of that one, as well as an epic Golden Retriever and tomorrow an epic Anubis, I'll have to rework my entire fighter selector sheet. As it is, the Retriever already sent the old and tired Treent pretty much into retirement, but now the Cosmic Phoenix (and to a large extent even my beloved Gold Lion) are outclassed by the Prince Swan too. Another really good addition is the Snapdragon. I'm curious to see what my results will be of the next tournament with this revised fighter selection. :P

chippychan

08-31-15, 05:30 AM

When do you think that will be done, and posted here?!?
I'm really appreciate you're work here!

I'd like to get a bit more of the test chart filled out with definite results before proceeding with a graphic version of the strengths/weaknesses. It wouldn't be as easy to fix as the word charts if discrepancies come up, at least not for me. Unfortunately I'm not the whiz I wish I was with Photoshop. :)

I'm hoping for another 30-round tournament this week with a variety of opponents I still need to re-test. A new Battlegrounds would be even better!

I'm a little bit lost on the strengths of the Egypt element.
Is it at present still strong against Treasure, Gem and Icecream?
Also: to which elements is it weak?

After all the testing during the last flash tournament it was discovered that nothing is a strong or weak attack against the Egypt element. Every attack against it is neutral.

You can see which elements the Egypt element is strong or weak based on actual tested in the chart here (http://forums.storm8.com/showthread.php?83277-Battlegrounds-amp-Tournaments-Strategy-Guide-amp-Discussion&p=1144358&viewfull=1#post1144358) (the results of using the Egypt element to attack is down the far right column).

Wherever you see the 'S' or 'W' in red this means that it hasn't actually been verified but it is assumed to be true right now based on the results against various combinations of elements further down in the chart.

- It has been verified that Egypt is STRONG against Ice Cream and Treasure.
- It is assumed that Egypt is WEAK against Nature and Water and STRONG against Gem based on the results of battles against opponents with a combination that contained these elements. I'll have to wait until we get 'pure' opponents with these elements to confirm.

I hope this makes sense. :)

Is there anything we need to retest regarding the Egypt (or other elements)?

Again, the chart here (http://forums.storm8.com/showthread.php?83277-Battlegrounds-amp-Tournaments-Strategy-Guide-amp-Discussion&p=1144358&viewfull=1#post1144358) is what I'm currently working on. Anywhere you see a blank space or red result are the things I still need to test for verification.

I keep it as up-to-date as possible, especially during tournaments. :)

ninasidstorm8

08-31-15, 10:16 AM

I finally found some time to compare the current chart against the information I have gathered since the Wyburn battleground started. Following are the confirmations, additions and one correction I have. I also listed the Battleground or Tournament that I obtained the data.

Ice Cream Strong Attack against Earth – Dusky Tournament
Fire Strong Attack against Dark - Dusky Tournament
XMas Neutral against Water/Fire – Wyburn Battleground
XMas Weak Attack against Electric/Fire – Wyburn Battleground
Gem Neutral against Gem/Fire – Wyburn Battleground
XMas Weak Attack against Gem /Fire – Wyburn Battleground
XMas Weak Attack against Music /Fire – Wyburn Battleground
XMas Neutral against Earth/Nature – Wyburn Battleground
Nature Neutral against Water/Nature – Wyburn Battleground Your chart is incorrect on this item.
XMas Strong Attack against Water/Nature – Wyburn Battleground
Gem Strong Attack against Gem/Nature – Spark Shark Tournament
XMas Strong Attack against Water/Earth – Wyburn Battleground
XMas Weak Attack against Dark/Earth – Wyburn Battleground
Nature Strong Attack against Valentine/Earth – Wyburn Battleground
Earth Neutral against Valentine/Earth – Wyburn Battleground
Dark Neutral against Valentine/Earth – Wyburn Battleground
Living Wood Neutral against Valentine/Earth – Wyburn Battleground
xMas Neutral against Valentine/Earth – Wyburn Battleground
Valentine Neutral against Valentine/Earth – Wyburn Battleground
Shamrock Neutral against Valentine/Earth – Wyburn Battleground
Icecream Strong Attack against Valentine/Earth – Wyburn Battleground
Egypt Neutral against Valentine/Earth – Wyburn Battleground
XMas Neutral against Dark/Water – Wyburn Battleground
Icecream Strong Attack against Cosmic/Earth – Wyburn Battleground
XMas Weak Attack against Electric/Dark – Wyburn Battleground
Egypt Strong Attack against Gem/Electric – Wyburn Battleground

I hope this helps fill in some blanks.

UPDATE: Corrected the items in bold.

chippychan

08-31-15, 12:12 PM

I finally found some time to compare the current chart against the information I have gathered since the Wyburn battleground started. Following are the confirmations, additions and one correction I have. I also listed the Battleground or Tournament that I obtained the data.

Ice Cream Strong Attack against Earth – Dusky Tournament
Fire Strong Attack against Dark - Dusky Tournament
XMas Strong Attack against Water/Fire – Wyburn Battleground
XMas Strong Attack against Electric/Fire – Wyburn Battleground
Gem Strong Attack against Gem/Fire – Wyburn Battleground
XMas Weak Attack against Gem /Fire – Wyburn Battleground
XMas Weak Attack against Music /Fire – Wyburn Battleground
XMas Neutral against Earth/Nature – Wyburn Battleground
Nature Neutral against Water/Nature – Wyburn Battleground Your is chart incorrect on this item.
XMas Strong Attack against Water/Nature – Wyburn Battleground
Gem Strong Attack against Gem/Nature – Spark Shark Tournament
XMas Strong Attack against Water/Earth – Wyburn Battleground
XMas Weak Attack against Dark/Earth – Wyburn Battleground
Nature Strong Attack against Valentine/Earth – Wyburn Battleground
Earth Neutral against Valentine/Earth – Wyburn Battleground
Dark Neutral against Valentine/Earth – Wyburn Battleground
Living Wood Neutral against Valentine/Earth – Wyburn Battleground
xMas Neutral against Valentine/Earth – Wyburn Battleground
Valentine Neutral against Valentine/Earth – Wyburn Battleground
Shamrock Neutral against Valentine/Earth – Wyburn Battleground
Icecream Strong Attack against Valentine/Earth – Wyburn Battleground
Egypt Neutral against Valentine/Earth – Wyburn Battleground
XMas Neutral against Dark/Water – Wyburn Battleground
Icecream Neutral against Cosmic/Earth – Wyburn Battleground
XMas Weak Attack against Electric/Dark – Wyburn Battleground
Egypt Strong Attack against Gem/Electric – Wyburn Battleground

I hope this helps fill in some blanks.

Wow, thank you so much! :) :) :)

I'll go through your list and fill in any blanks in my chart when I'm home from work later. Thanks again, this REALLY helps!!

ninasidstorm8

08-31-15, 01:00 PM

Wow, thank you so much! :) :) :)

I'll go through your list and fill in any blanks in my chart when I'm home from work later. Thanks again, this REALLY helps!!

Your welcome. The last two battlegrounds, I spent most of the time trying to lose most rounds to get additional information. I had some Critical Hits at the most unfortunate times but I did manage 348 separate battles over 2 months I spent in the Wyburn Battleground. I started with a focus on getting data on Spring and finished getting data on Egypt.

I am afraid we may be in for some more changes since there was nothing found to be strong against Egypt (Eye of Rah). That usually signals another change in the relationships with the Special elements. Hopefully, they just fix Egypt.

chippychan

09-01-15, 06:44 AM

ogreve

09-01-15, 07:16 AM

I did some updates and as I was updating I had a thought and wanted to ask opinions:

Should we start calling the 'Gem' element the 'Crystal' element in these guides/charts instead?

I've always called it 'Gem' because that's just what I've seen in called in past opponent guides posted by zenobia (who is sorely missed by the way). However, calling it 'Gem' may cause confusion with the 'Treasure' (Gem-giving) animals for some people. I've seen the Gem/Crystal animals and hybrids referred to as 'Crystal' and it makes sense to me.

Thoughts?

At first that very confusion always really caught me. Same when reading "Ruby" in the list; at first I always thought that ruby was a different way to refer to Treasure (instead of it being shorthand for Ruby Razorback); what we otherwise know as gems in ANY other context in this game. ;)
I think your idea is a good one, but I propose to name it "Legendary" as "Crystal" may also be confused with the Treasure one...:P

ninasidstorm8

09-01-15, 07:21 AM

I did some updates and as I was updating I had a thought and wanted to ask opinions:

Should we start calling the 'Gem' element the 'Crystal' element in these guides/charts instead?

I've always called it 'Gem' because that's just what I've seen in called in past opponent guides posted by zenobia (who is sorely missed by the way). However, calling it 'Gem' may cause confusion with the 'Treasure' (Gem-giving) animals for some people. I've seen the Gem/Crystal animals and hybrids referred to as 'Crystal' and it makes sense to me.

Thoughts?

I do not have a preference. Sandscape did most of the early work on the battles and came up with the name Gem based on the name of the habitat. As long as we are consistent, the name shouldn't matter. The non-S8 site with information on FFS uses the term Legendary for what we have been calling Gem, Lucky for Shamrock and Tree for Living Wood. I think this is a great topic for a Moderator to weigh in on.

To the Moderators: Is there an official S8 list of element names?

chippychan

09-04-15, 05:27 PM

Thanks for the input. I waited for a bit to see if any moderators would chime in on 'official' names of the elements but it doesn't look like that's going to happen so I guess we'll decide ourselves. :rolleyes:

After realizing that S8 refers to the new dog trio as 'Service' type animals in the habitat I decided to check the habitat for the Gem/Legendary animals. It seems the habitat refers to the residents of that habitat as 'Gemstone animals' so I completely see why the use of 'Gem' as the type makes sense and also why it was decided upon in the first place. However, I think I'll change the charts to refer to them as 'Gemstone' instead of just 'Gem'. It seems the most accurate based on the in-game information.

I also noticed that they refer to Shamrock as 'St.Paddy's Day' animals. But I don't know... it seems easier to type 'Shamrock' and that *is* what the symbol looks like. I'm reluctant to call it 'Lucky' like the wiki does just because it kind of indicates it's "lucky" to use in battles when I don't think it necessarily is (from my own experience, lol). So should we keep it Shamrock?

In regards to the 'Living Wood' element, the habitat is called this so I think it makes sense. Either that or we could switch to calling it 'Treent' type since this is what the habitat calls it's resident (even though it refers to multiple 'Treents' we pretty much know it only holds the one unique 'Treent').

And finally, the 'Treasure' element... The name of the habitat is 'Treasure Trove' and it doesn't claim any sort of element type of the animals it holds. So I feel keeping it 'Treasure' also makes sense.

So basically I'm thinking of the following changes based on this information:

GEM --> GEMSTONE
LIVING WOOD --> TREENT (?)
EGYPT --> EGYPTIAN

Everything else could stay the same and I'd also add 'Service' type to the chart for the new trio animals.

So if there aren't any major objections I think I'll go ahead with these changes. Any input is welcome. :)

EDIT: I'm also thinking of changing 'Egypt' to 'Egyptian' based on the description in the habitat so I added it to the above list.

ninasidstorm8

09-08-15, 08:20 AM

Chippychan, I corrected Post #54 where I provided you with some data for your charts. I must have been distracted when I created that post as I have found 4 errors in my post. I think you have already corrected your chart for two of them. Here are the items I corrected, I will make sure I double check the data before posting it in the future. I apologize for any confusion that I may have caused.

XMas Neutral against Water/Fire – Wyburn Battleground
XMas Weak Attack against Electric/Fire – Wyburn Battleground
Gem Neutral against Gem/Fire – Wyburn Battleground
Icecream Strong Attack against Cosmic/Earth – Wyburn Battleground

I don't have any new data from the last tournament.

chippychan

09-11-15, 05:58 AM

@ ninsidstorm8, Thanks so much! No worries about errors, I make them often and appreciate it when it's brought to my attention. :)

I had a very busy week but today I'm going to be working on updates. I'm expecting that we'll get a flash-tournament today so hopefully I can get some more testing done too.

chippychan

09-18-15, 07:10 AM

I did some more updating today. I combined the 'Recommended Fighters' and 'Attacks to Use/Avoid' into one chart, similar to how it's laid out in tournament posts. I split it into 2 parts to accommodate the restriction on the number of images that can be in one post.

If anyone notices any errors please let me know. I'll also keep updating as I get the chance to test attacks in the future (as usual). :)

SummerNightSky

09-18-15, 09:30 AM

In the Recommended Fighters/Elements chart, I noticed that Crystal Unicorn is spelled Cystal Unicorn in the following rows:
Nature
Earth
Electric-Nature
Music-Earth

chippychan

09-18-15, 10:13 AM

In the Recommended Fighters/Elements chart, I noticed that Crystal Unicorn is spelled Cystal Unicorn in the following rows:
Nature
Earth
Electric-Nature
Music-Earth

Thanks for catching those typos! Fixed. :)

SummerNightSky

09-18-15, 12:14 PM

Thanks for catching those typos! Fixed. :)
Twas no problem :) I have a knack for spotting those things (would drive me nuts when I'd spot one on a final draft of an essay or project right before the professor asked for them to be handed in).

ogreve

10-05-15, 01:07 PM

I just gave my freshly hatched Harvest Hoarder a spin in the battleground and its opponent was water-dark to which autumn is strong.
I'll try to do some more testing with it.

deltared

10-06-15, 10:05 AM

I know there were some changes in strengths/weakness for Ice Cream.

I am currently working the Charger battlegrounds...level 65 against Obsidian Cyclops (Gemstone-Earth) my Strawbeary attacks were neutral.

chippychan

10-07-15, 04:30 AM

Thank you ogreve & deltared! I'll be working on the charts for the next little while and will update them as soon as possible. :)

ogreve

10-08-15, 05:50 AM

O.k., I'm slowly testing "Autumn" in the Wyburn battlegrounds. Autumn was also strong against water-earth. This leads me to suspect that autumn is strong against water and neutral or strong against dark and/or earth. Further testing will have to make this clear.

These are my battleground results for "Autumn" so far:
-water-dark: autumn is STRONG to water-dark
-water-earth: autumn is STRONG to water-earth
-water-nature: autumn is STRONG to water-nature
-water-fire: autumn is NEUTRAL to water-fire
-electric-fire: autumn is NEUTRAL to electric-fire
-nature-fire: autumn is WEAK to nature-fire
-gem-dark: autumn is WEAK to gem-dark
-shamrock: autumn is NEUTRAL to shamrock
-cosmic: autumn is WEAK to cosmic

Confirmed findings:
-autumn is NEUTRAL to shamrock
-autumn is WEAK to cosmic

Preliminary conclusions (assumptions):
-autumn appears to be STRONG to water
-autumn does not appear to be WEAK against earth or nature
-autumn appears to be NEUTRAL to dark
-autumn appears to be WEAK to fire and gem
-autumn appears to be STRONG to electric

RowanaFarrin

10-08-15, 07:42 AM

Adding to ogreve's excellent data! I've been testing Autumn in the Reckless Roc battleground and here are my results so far:

Water/Nature: Autumn = strong
Dark/Fire: Autumn = weak
Nature/Fire: Autumn = weak
Dark/Earth: Autumn = neutral
Earth/Fire: Autumn = weak
Dark/Nature: Autumn = neutral

Theoretical findings(combined with ogreve's results):

Autumn is STRONG to water
Autumn is WEAK to fire
Autumn is NEUTRAL to dark, earth, and nature

Haven't had a chance to try lightning or any of the special elements yet. I'll keep you guys posted!

Update: Just tried Autumn versus Lighting/Earth and it was strong so autumn might be strong versus lightning, but this needs confirmation.

deltared

10-16-15, 09:20 AM

Ice Cream testing in Wyburn battleground result:

Level 24 against Beever (electric/water) - Strawbeary attacks were neutral.
Level 29 against Arboar (water/nature) - Strawbeary attacks were neutral.

chippychan

10-17-15, 06:56 AM

Ice Cream testing in Wyburn battleground result:

Level 24 against Beever (electric/water) - Strawbeary attacks were neutral.
Level 29 against Arboar (water/nature) - Strawbeary attacks were neutral.

Thank you for the information, I know I have some updating to do but I may not have a chance until tomorrow. :)

deltared

10-17-15, 10:19 AM

Thank you for the information, I know I have some updating to do but I may not have a chance until tomorrow. :)

I am just posting in case you don't have the new results. If you don't need the data, just let me know. :)

Level 30 against Lemurcury (cosmic/earth) - Strawberry attacks were strong.
Level 33 against Chameneon (dark/water) - Strawberry attacks were neutral.
Level 37 against Love Dove (valentine/earth) - Strawberry attacks were strong.

ogreve

10-20-15, 04:11 PM

@Chippychan: I just had one shot in the battleground with the Sugarskull Glider: Skull is strong to the combination of dark-electric (not sure to which of the two precisely)...

MaribouMay

10-20-15, 06:01 PM

I just battled Saintly Bernard using Treent and found it to be neutral. The testing chart seems to say this as well though the recommended fighters chart (post 2 of this thread and the Reckless Roc thread) list Treent as a recommended fighter against Service. Maybe the recommended fighters need to be updated?

And, I can confirm that Egypt is neutral against Egypt.

ninasidstorm8

10-22-15, 09:03 AM

I have the following updates to the current Testing Chart in this thread based on the last tournament and the latest battleground.

xMas Neutral attacking Cosmic – Reckless Rock battleground
Nature Strong attacking Service/Earth – Demonkey Arena
Earth Neutral attacking Service/Earth – Demonkey Arena
Water Neutral attacking Service/Earth – Demonkey Arena
xMas Strong attacking Service/Earth – Demonkey Arena
Egypt Neutral attacking Service/Fire – Reckless Rock battleground
Autumn Weak attacking Service/Fire – Reckless Rock battleground
Service Strong attacking Water/Fire – Reckless Rock battleground

I am holding off further testing in the battleground until I can breed one of the Skull trio to try out.

Hawksmoor

10-22-15, 09:40 AM

I've just started to test my Sugarskull Glider in the Restless Roc Battleground. I'm only at level 10 so I should hopefully be able to cover a lot of combos, and will try to update this as often as I can:

Battle #10 - Super Heron (water/fire): Skull is NEUTRAL
Battle #11 - Toronado (electric/fire): Skull is STRONG
Battle #12 - Punk Skunk (dark/nature: Registered a Critical Hit so unknown for now
Battle #13 - Bamboon (earth/nature): Skull is WEAK
Battle #14 - Charger (electric/water): Skull is STRONG

I just realized, it's probably best to test using the single element Skull rather than with an animal that contains the nature element as well, so I'll hold off for now. Hopefully I'll get the 3rd trio animal and can continue this!

chippychan

10-23-15, 06:30 AM

Thanks so much to everyone for their information and corrections!

I haven't had a chance to get online for updates in the last week but I'm working on them now and should have things up-to-date before today's (assumed) flash tournament. :)

ogreve

10-23-15, 11:22 PM

I just gave my new Scaredy Cat one go in the battleground against the Pluma. The Halloween/Pumpkin attack was neutral (as was nature, of course).... The cat will go into the flower in a few minutes time and I've been taking it easy with the battlegrounds. If it is desired that I do further testing, I could do some more battleground rounds. Currently I'm in the second to last one of the Wyburn battleground. I can test Skull too on specific rounds if so desired...

LonePudding

10-24-15, 02:14 AM

(Round 61 onward of the Reckless Roc battleground using the Skull attack from Skeletal Steed)

Skull is neutral against fire.
Skull is neutral against xmas-nature.
Skull is neutral against dark-fire.
Skull is weak against service-earth.
Skull is weak against earth-fire.
Skull is weak against service.
Skull is neutral against egyptian.
Skull is strong against electric-water.
Skull is strong against treasure.
Skull is weak against dark-earth.
Skull is neutral against nature-fire.
Skull is strong against shamrock.
Skull is strong against electric-fire.

Seems like it is WEAK against service and earth.
and STRONG against electric, treasure and shamrock!

Now I definitely want to breed a Deadwing!

chippychan

10-24-15, 06:41 AM

Thank you for the information on the Halloween element ogreve! I don't have mine hatched yet, but I stopped fighting in the battlegrounds a while a go so I'll be able to start testing it soon too. :)

And thank you also for all that information on the Skull element LonePudding! :)

I'll be doing some updating today.

evys_mom

10-28-15, 11:28 AM

Currently working through the Charger battleground and will be testing the pumpkin (Epic Scaredy Cat) results are all pumpkin attacks. I will continue to update as I progress:

Dark/ fire: N,N, C
Nature/ fire : S,S,S
Water/ nature : N, C
Earth/ Plant : C
Water/ nature : C
Nature/ fire: S,C
Dark/ water : W,W,W
Dark/ Nature : S,S,C 3 battles with Frankenswine BOSS all Strong/ critical
Earth/ fire : N,N,N
Water/ nature : N,N,N
Valentine (smitten kitten) N,N,C
Christmas (toy poodle): S,S,S
Lightning / nature: S,C
Lightning / earth: N,N,N
Lightning / earth: N,N, C
Dark / water : W,W,W
Lightning /nature : S,C,S

Moved on to Wyburn:
Nature: S,S,C
Spring: W,W,W
Ice Cream : N,N,N

cocauina

10-28-15, 03:20 PM

evys_mom

10-28-15, 04:24 PM

Wyburn Battlegrounds, neutral attack to Earth/Fire with Scaredy Cat.
Thank you! I will add to my list!!

Clark_Wayne

10-28-15, 07:32 PM

pumpkin is strong vs treent !

cocauina

10-28-15, 11:01 PM

Thank you! I will add to my list!!

Wyburn Battlegrounds again, Scaredy Cat with Pumpkin attacks.

Strong and Critical against Electric/Nature.
Neutral attacks only against Electric/Earth.

So currently Pumpkin seems to be strong against Nature, neutral to Fire, Earth and Electric weak to Water. About Dark, it seems to be weak also, or can be even neutral. This is my opinion from what I see.

chippychan

10-29-15, 04:23 AM

Thank you all for your information! I've been doing some testing as well but haven't had a chance to sit down to do updates. I'm hoping to have time tonight, but if that doesn't work out I'll definitely have time tomorrow morning since I have the day off work.

cocauina

10-29-15, 08:20 AM

Wyburn Battlegrounds again, Scaredy Cat with Pumpkin attacks.

Strong and Critical against Electric/Nature.
Neutral attacks only against Electric/Earth.

So currently Pumpkin seems to be strong against Nature, neutral to Fire, Earth and Electric weak to Water. About Dark, it seems to be weak also, or can be even neutral. This is my opinion from what I see.

Neutral attacks against Legendary/Fire (Ruby Razorback)

chippychan

10-29-15, 11:58 AM

OK, I've done a bunch of updating, along with some of my own results. :)

evys_mom

10-29-15, 12:22 PM

OK, I've done a bunch of updating, along with some of my own results. :)

Awesome I love your charts! I will continue updating my post on the pumpkin trial.

evys_mom

10-31-15, 01:15 AM

OK, I've done a bunch of updating, along with some of my own results. :)
I just battled the MATRIPONY in the Charger battleground. Used the Pumpkin from Scaredy Cat all were neutral. I switched to the Sugar**** glider and got all weak with skull. Your chart shows it as strong?

cocauina

11-03-15, 01:23 PM

Already posted on Tornadodo thread, but will post here also.

(...)
Skull is neutral (2nd hit) against Autumn. My small beast Deadwing gave me a critical hit on my first hit, wonderful!

Shocked o:
Deadwing is strong against Ruby Razorback

chippychan

11-07-15, 04:30 PM

Thanks again to everyone who has provided info on their attack results!

I've made some updates and I just wanted to mention that I won't have another chance to update any new info that's provided for about a week because of some much-needed vacation time.

As always, if anyone notices any errors or if I've missed something please post about it and I'll look at it as soon as I get back. :D

Scribbles138

11-13-15, 07:21 AM

I have a question for those with gem animals...I finally broke down and bought the Pearl Peryton value pack, and have pretty much had it in the evolution flower since hatching. Today would be the day that I would put him (or her?) back in for it's final 38 hour evolution, but we're also expecting a tournament to start today, and I would like to give it a go. I have been successful in previous tournaments (last one not counting my horrendous record), without any gem animals. What would you do? Pop him in the flower for the next 38 hours and do the tournament without, or battle with a level 14?

blueangel54321

01-05-16, 04:17 PM

This is super helpful! Is it still being updated?

JeffW60

01-07-16, 09:37 AM

ninasidstorm8

01-07-16, 10:29 AM

I've been playing this game for a couple of months. At this point I have no ultra rare animals....crystal unicorn etc.......I do have about 14 super rare animals. To this point I only have one animal at epic level, and it's a common. In order to do better in tournaments would it be best to raise most of my super rare animals to epic or close to epic?

Just looking for some advice. I'm just not sure which animals I need to focus on raising their levels. Right now I am saving food like crazy. I know we have a storybook approaching so I will need a lot of good for that but I'm also saving food to try to raise the levels of a lot of my animals.

Any advice would be appreciated.

Your best bet is to raise a few select Super Rare animals to level 15 that cover the most element combinations first. For instance, it's usually important to have a Strong Dark animal to beat Gem animals. A strong Fire to go against Dark and Nature. A Strong Earth to go against Fire and Electric.

Refer to the following thread for some additional information. It is old but provides a great starting point.

http://forum.storm8.com/showthread.php?73180-Making-Sense-of-the-Battleground/page3

LonePudding

01-23-16, 04:03 AM

bump.
I need this for the battleground thread.

Lesimony

02-02-16, 06:32 PM

Wanted to report that Earth and Ice Cream are strong against Skull.

Sandybellee

02-05-16, 03:16 PM

Here are my results so far from testing Aquarius in the battleground.

Zodiac in a zodiac-electric animal is...

...strong to earth-fire, electric-nature, electric-fire, nature-fire

...weak to gem-dark, dark-water

...neutral to earth-nature, water-nature, dark-fire, halloween-earth

LonePudding

02-06-16, 02:37 AM

Testing the Zodiac element:

Strong against:
- Valentine-Fire
- Electric-Earth

Neutral against:
- Autumn
- Shamrock

Weak against:
- Dark-Nature
- Dark-Water

MaribouMay

02-06-16, 11:52 AM

In the current tournament I used Santa Claws against Smitten Kitten (valentine-fire) and got a weak attack with christmas. Am I reading the chart wrong? I thought christmas was strong against valentine.

Kevin0908

02-16-16, 03:48 PM

Diamond & treasure are weak against skull.

Kevin0908

02-16-16, 04:58 PM

Spring is neutral against skull

MaribouMay

03-05-16, 03:18 PM

Testing Zodiac:
neutral against Spring & Skull

Battling Skull (Deadwing):
Santa Claus - christmas & fire attacks are both neutral
Caturn - cosmic attack neutral
Eerie Owl - halloween & fire attacks are both neutral
Barn Owl - autumn attack neutral
Aquarius - zodiac neutral, electric weak
Melodeer - music attack neutral
Treent - living wood neutral

jim23cash

03-10-16, 09:08 AM

Zodiac
Pisces (Zodiac/Water)
I tried Gem/Water and got Neutral hits
I tried Anubis (Egyptian) and got Weak hits

ekat1985

03-13-16, 01:03 PM

ninasidstorm8

03-13-16, 02:25 PM

I'm not sure if this is answered somewhere already, but based on this theory I was wondering if and how your fighter's other elements play into effect that you don't actually use to battle. for example, if i'm going up against an "earth-fire" opponent and am trying to decide which animal to use (lets assume the rarity and level are the same for all). By the chart recommendations i does using an animal with "earth-water" components provide more of a chance of getting a critical hit than using an animal with only one of those elements ... like water-nature but only using water to actually fight? or conversly, the chart says don't use fire but would using an animal who has fire as one of it's elements but not actually using that element in the fight somehow effect its chances? I hope that makes sense. I was just curious. thanks!

The odds of determining if an attack will be a Critical Hit uses both elements from your animal as well as the opponent. So a combination where both elements have a Strong Attack vs the opponent has a better chance of getting a Critical Hit than if one is Strong and one is Neutral. It doesn't matter which element you use for your attack once you have chosen your animal for battle. The calculation for the Critical Hit doesn't involve the element that you choose to battle.

Sandscape figured this out early on and all of my experience has shown this to be true even if it doesn't seem logical to design it this way. One thing that convinced me this was true is that in one Battle, I selected an opponent and before I could even select an element for attack, I was awarded the 2 tokens for a World Event that was on and it caused me to have enough tokens to win a prize. So I dismissed the prize screen and then selected my battle element, received the expected Critical Hit and won the round.

See the following thread for an excellent explanation of how the Battle Arena/Battleground works.

http://forum.storm8.com/showthread.php?73180-Making-Sense-of-the-Battleground

Renochu

04-20-16, 10:19 PM

Is it just me or do the creatures in the battlegrounds do a lot more damage than your creatures?
I can attack it and it will still be in green health but it attacks me and go down to orange, the only hope to beat them is to get a crit. So do the battleground relay on getting lucky with crits to win or I am missing something?

Silverrain1

04-21-16, 03:45 AM

Yeah the animals in the battle ground can be tough! Tournaments to! You really need critical hits to win

natxjkkggg

04-21-16, 03:50 AM

Without at least one critical hit You can't win!!

JeffW60

04-21-16, 09:52 AM

I have found the battleground animals to be quite effective in tournaments. I use my Ancient Sloth and Twilight Troll quite a bit in tournaments.

Renochu

04-25-16, 01:52 PM

How dose a level 6 beat a level 10 with the advantage?

blueangel54321

04-28-16, 05:42 AM

Hello! Just an FYI, I just used a Treasure Toucan against the Deadwing. It was a weak attack. I lost :(

natxjkkggg

04-28-16, 06:23 AM

MatriPony took him in one critical strike

Buttercup0001

05-25-16, 06:10 PM

Testing out the Rainbow element in the Shrieking Skies, Reckless Roc battlegrounds. Not sure if anyone else is testing it out.
My Petal Peacock (rainbow/water) is on level 9.

Results so far

nature/water ........ CH on 1st hit (not very helpful).

earth/fire........2 neutral hits, then CH.

Cosmic /fire..........3 strong hits.

Petal Peacock - Level 10

dark/earth ……3 weak hits.

dark/water …… neutral, CH.

Egypt/earth ...... 3 weak hits.

Water/earth......3 neutral hits.

Shamrock/earth …… 3 weak hits.

Electric/earth……3 neutral hits.

Petal Peacock level 13.

Valentine (Matripony - valentine/nature) …3 strong hits.

Treasure (Prize Pony) 2 neutral hits, 1 CH. 3 neutral hits. 2 neutral and 1 CH. I battled the Prize Pony 3 times, results were the same.

Electric/dark……2 neutral hits, 1 CH.

Dark/Nature …… 1 neutral hit, 1 CH.

Earth……3 weak hits.

Electric/Nature …… 2 strong and 1 CH.

Electric/Water…… 3 strong hits.

Electric......2 strong hits and a CH

Clark_Wayne

05-30-16, 04:41 PM

rainbow vs dark/nature : neutral
rainbow vs spring/nature : critical hit (no help)

with buttercup results, logically we have
rainbow weak vs the following elements : dark, earth, egypt, shamrock
rainbow strong vs the following elements : nature, water, fire, cosmic

supermaay

07-28-16, 12:25 PM

Does anyone know the sterngth and weakness of the "Rainbow" animals? Recently, we saw a quite few "Rainbow" animals coming out, Pedal Peacock, Grand Unicorn, Pokey Pilot, etc. However, the posts in Page 1 did not include Rainbow. Thanks in advance for your advice.

ninasidstorm8

07-28-16, 01:04 PM

supermaay

07-28-16, 01:23 PM

Thanks for pointing out. It's still not clear to me how to fight with the "Rainbow" element. Something like the table in Post #2 will be very helpful but perhaps it's not available yet. Thanks.

AudySpain

07-29-16, 04:49 PM

I got a pop up saying I've reached the end of the battlegrounds? Is this true, or do I just need to level up for a new opponent?

ninasidstorm8

07-29-16, 06:34 PM

I got a pop up saying I've reached the end of the battlegrounds? Is this true, or do I just need to level up for a new opponent?

The Snow Monster battleground was the last one released. Since that was 6 months ago, that might be it for the battlegrounds but you never know.

vulpesvulpes1

08-04-16, 01:54 PM

Crystal Unicorn is strong against H'ween/Earth.

HappyHeartBakery

08-09-16, 10:18 AM

supermaay

08-20-16, 09:34 PM

Just preparing:

Does anyone have the breakdown of all the newer elements that are not posted in post on page 1 of the USE & AVOID for each?
Don't know if anyone knows how to update the lovely charts - but it would be nice to have all the updates on that 1st page in a post even if no one is able to get them into the chart:) Hopefully someone more tech savy than I:)

Great suggestion, particularly for Rainbow and Zodiac. There are several animals came out recently carrying these two elements. It will be great if the table is Page 1 can be updated to include those new elements. Thanks you very much.

dd2b44ever

08-25-16, 10:13 AM

Great suggestion, particularly for Rainbow and Zodiac. There are several animals came out recently carrying these two elements. It will be great if the table is Page 1 can be updated to include those new elements. Thanks you very much.

Or, perhaps, if someone is tech savvy enough and generous enough with their time to redo the chart to include ALL the elements that chippychan wasn't able to test and chart? I'm not positive but I'm guessing that, if a new post was started (& perhaps linked to from this one), the moderators should be able to "sticky" it or something so that the rest of us could easily reference it? I know that I would be incredibly grateful to whoever created an updated version of chippychan's amazing chart as well as the moderator that made it easy to find and reference for the future! Pretty please and thank you!!!!

kooky panda

08-25-16, 10:36 AM

If someone would like to do a new chart with the updates, you can go ahead and start a new thread, then send me a private message and I can stick the new thread and close this one.

Reference threads are important and need to be kept updated.

( I would put a link to this thread in the new thread and the prior reference thread)

dd2b44ever

08-25-16, 02:36 PM

ABABAU

08-26-16, 10:58 PM

Maybe this was already answered but how came some animals can be over level 15 and up to 20?

Silverrain1

08-27-16, 01:40 AM

Maybe this was already answered but how came some animals can be over level 15 and up to 20?

Our animals are currently capped at level 15 and have been for a while. Only the computers animals can get passed that level currently. I don't know if there's plans to change this or keep it the same way, as I believe (before I started playing) our animal levels were originally capped at 10.

LauraGSJK

10-01-16, 07:10 PM

Testing out the Rainbow element in the Shrieking Skies, Reckless Roc battlegrounds. Not sure if anyone else is testing it out.
My Petal Peacock (rainbow/water) is on level 9.

Results so far

nature/water ........ CH on 1st hit (not very helpful).

earth/fire........2 neutral hits, then CH.

Cosmic /fire..........3 strong hits.

Petal Peacock - Level 10

dark/earth ??3 weak hits.

dark/water ?? neutral, CH.

Egypt/earth ...... 3 weak hits.

Water/earth......3 neutral hits.

Shamrock/earth ?? 3 weak hits.

Electric/earth??3 neutral hits.

Petal Peacock level 13.

Valentine (Matripony - valentine/nature) ?3 strong hits.

Treasure (Prize Pony) 2 neutral hits, 1 CH. 3 neutral hits. 2 neutral and 1 CH. I battled the Prize Pony 3 times, results were the same.

Electric/dark??2 neutral hits, 1 CH.

Dark/Nature ?? 1 neutral hit, 1 CH.

Earth??3 weak hits.

Electric/Nature ?? 2 strong and 1 CH.

Electric/Water?? 3 strong hits.

Electric......2 strong hits and a CH

Thank you Buttercup. Very helpful!

ATurtleIsAReptile

10-15-16, 11:48 AM

Thank you, this guide is really helpful!

Does anyone know what the new "magic" element is strong and weak against? I'm playing on Android and don't get the "strong hit"/"weak hit" messages, so it's hard for me to tell.

Buttercup0001

10-21-16, 08:10 PM

My results so far testing the magic element.

Magic/fire strong against Icecream, earth, electric, dark.

Magic is weak against nature.

Still testing

Water is strong against water.

Dark is weak against magic

HappyHeartBakery

11-03-16, 06:47 AM

MauiLady7

11-04-16, 07:23 PM

Can a mod please put a sticky on this thread? It keeps moving down the site and it has a lot of valuable information. I just discovered it a month ago, and if it would have been at the top, it could have saved me a lot of grief! I'm on level 95.

Thanks in advance to the hard working member who takes on the task of updating this thread with the newer elements of magic, zodiac, rainbow etc.

Eluzyion

11-08-16, 11:15 PM

I've taken an old chart and added rainbow and magic elements.. these are still being tested but myself and others have posted results and this is a compiled result list.. so when it comes to these particular elements you may see some exceptions depending on what combined elements you are facing.. anyway hope this helps!

ELEMENT - WHAT TO USE AGAINST IT (what to avoid is not listed)

FIRE - EARTH, WATER, ZODIAC, SERVICE, SHAMROCK, RAINBOW

NATURE - FIRE, SPRING, LEGENDARY, HALLOWEEN, RAINBOW

EARTH - NATURE, LEGENDARY, MAGIC

WATER - ELECTRIC, VALENTINE, XMAS, SPACE, AUTUMN, RAINBOW

DARK - FIRE, TREASURE, SERVICE, MAGIC

ELECTRIC - EARTH, MUSIC, ZODIAC, SERVICE

TREE - DARK, HALLOWEEN

ZODIAC - DARK, water?

LEGENDARY - DARK, TREASURE, TREE, SKULL

TREASURE - NATURE, XMAS, EGYPT, SKULL, MAGIC

VALENTINE - ELECTRIC

XMAS - SKULL

SPACE - EARTH, RAINBOW, MAGIC

MUSIC - WATER, AUTUMN

SERVICE - MUSIC

SHAMROCK - ELECTRIC, SKULL

SPRING - XMAS, AUTUMN

ICE CREAM - FIRE, EGYPT, MAGIC

EGYPT - NATURE, WATER

AUTUMN - FIRE, LEGENDARY, SPACE, ICE CREAM

SKULL - VALENTINE, EARTH

HALLOWEEN - WATER

RAINBOW - DARK, EARTH, EGYPT, SHAMROCK

MAGIC - WATER, NATURE

Silverrain1

11-09-16, 02:33 AM

Eluzyion

11-09-16, 05:26 AM

I like this chart a lot. Thank you eluzyion, I find the other charts hard to understand, some thing are in brackets, some aren't and I don't get why lol. Also my phone doesn't let me scroll along so I can never see the use and avoid symbols.
This one is helpful, having the element then the best to use so thanks very much.

your're very welcome, i go by this list and usually do pretty well.. i rarely get a weak using it but there is an odd occassion, could be because i've been testing magic too but lol hope you find it as useful.. and yea i didnt include what to avoid because all i really need is what to use lol

Silverrain1

11-09-16, 03:46 PM

your're very welcome, i go by this list and usually do pretty well.. i rarely get a weak using it but there is an odd occassion, could be because i've been testing magic too but lol hope you find it as useful.. and yea i didnt include what to avoid because all i really need is what to use lol

I normally do ok but there are some that I always make mistakes with! I always use fire for shamrock! (Wrong,wrong!) lol.
No you don't need an avoid list as if u know what to use that kinda tells you what not to use lol

jim23cash

12-24-16, 03:48 PM

I found that skull was neutral against Christmas.
So:
For Christmas,use Autumn or Pumpkin/Halloween.
Good Luck All!
EDIT: now the Autumn no longer works, and shows as weak.
That leaves Pumpkin/Halloween as strong against Christmas. Has anyone found anything else strong against it?

MaribouMay

02-17-17, 01:31 PM

With the new Battlegrounds (yay!), I would like to test elements. Anyone have a list of untested pairings?

Eluzyion

02-17-17, 01:35 PM

UPDATED (still testing new elements on elements that haven't shown up yet)

This is what I use, I've put in magic, rainbow, birthstone, spooky as I go..

ELEMENT - WHAT TO USE AGAINST IT (what to avoid is not listed) BIRTHSONE AND SPOOKY IS STILL BEING TESTED

FIRE - EARTH, WATER, ZODIAC, SERVICE, SHAMROCK, RAINBOW

NATURE - FIRE, SPRING, LEGENDARY, HALLOWEEN, RAINBOW, BIRTHSTONE

EARTH - NATURE, LEGENDARY, MAGIC, BIRTHSTONE

WATER - ELECTRIC, VALENTINE, XMAS, SPACE, AUTUMN, RAINBOW

DARK - FIRE, TREASURE, SERVICE, MAGIC, BIRTHSTONE

ELECTRIC - EARTH, MUSIC, ZODIAC, SERVICE, BIRTHSTONE

TREE - DARK, HALLOWEEN

ZODIAC - DARK, water?

LEGENDARY - DARK, TREASURE, TREE, SKULL, BIRTHSTONE

TREASURE - NATURE, XMAS, EGYPT, SKULL, MAGIC

VALENTINE - ELECTRIC

XMAS - SKULL

SPACE - EARTH, RAINBOW, MAGIC

MUSIC - WATER, AUTUMN

SERVICE - MUSIC

SHAMROCK - ELECTRIC, SKULL

SPRING - XMAS, AUTUMN

ICE CREAM - FIRE, EGYPT, MAGIC, BIRTHSTONE

EGYPT - NATURE, WATER

AUTUMN - FIRE, LEGENDARY, SPACE, ICE CREAM

SKULL - VALENTINE, EARTH

HALLOWEEN - WATER

RAINBOW - DARK, EARTH, EGYPT, SHAMROCK

MAGIC - WATER, NATURE

BIRTHSTONE - FIRE, WATER

SPOOKY - BIRTHSTONE, WATER, MAGIC (possibly Dark, Legendary, IceCream, Spring, Treent) - still testing

FAIRY - not yet tested

RUNIC - EARTH

APPLE - FIRE

Eluzyion

03-17-17, 02:18 PM

Birthstone is weak to fire and water (so far)

Phoenix406

05-04-17, 03:32 PM

Maybe this should go under the suggestion thread, but I do wish that Storm8 would reevaluate the way that they do tournaments. Trying to battle every hour is just ridiculous. Most games, even other S8 games, start you off with a bank of 5 lives. If you win, you move onto the next level without having to wait. Each time you are defeated in the battle, you lose a life. The lives regenerate at the rate of 1 per hour, with a max of 5 lives. So, theoretically, a person could do 5 battles before work, 4-5 battles over a lunch hour or break, and have full or almost full lives again at the end of the work day. You don't have to check in every hour, and you don't lose a life if you actually win the battle.

Silverrain1

07-04-17, 11:38 AM

mutley00

09-27-17, 05:13 AM

Help! Anyone found any type that is strong against Food type yet???

Just come up against a Bountiful Bunny opponent in Colosseum, so no clue what to use (Legendary is neutral)..

Same will no doubt be the case if Runic Fox appears (Rune type)

mraguia

11-02-17, 05:44 PM

has anyone updated the chart with birthstone & spooky

Destiel0918

11-02-17, 05:54 PM

has anyone updated the chart with birthstone & spooky

Spooky is definitely weak against water and Spring...and strong against nature.

Neutral towards: dark, earth, fire, electric, food, legendary (crystal); rainbow; spooky (itself); treasure....

Rynetory2

11-03-17, 05:51 AM

has anyone updated the chart with birthstone & spooky

The player has stopped updating the charts. I have added the hit strength for Birthstone to Battle chart - Part 1 (https://forums.storm8.com/showthread.php?101491-Fantasy-Forest-Main-Guide&p=1463666&viewfull=1#post1463666) in the Main Guide. It's still work in progress.

See https://forums.storm8.com/showthread.php?101284-New-SPOOKY-element for Spooky tests in progress.

mraguia

11-03-17, 01:30 PM

thanks

Destiel0918

11-03-17, 01:38 PM

So, some of have met this little creature on Colosseum tournaments39526:

Since one of it's elements NEVER loads it has caused much of confusion - what to use against Mystery element.

I've been able to test most of the elements against this creature, here are the results.

Opponent: Golden Unicorn (mystery?/fire)

Elements STRONG AGAINST Golden Uni: Earth; Water; Zodiac; Rainbow; Service;

Elements WEAK AGAINST Golden Uni: Autumn; Birthstone; Christmas; Dark; Lucky ; Nature

(Tested on IOS device, based on Strong/weak signs)

Elements tested and proven neutral: Electric ( Lightening); Fire; Halloween; Legendary( Crystal); Magic ; Music; Realm Rune; Space; Spooky; Spring; Treasure; Tree ; Valentine

Elements yet untested: against Golden Unicorn: Bomb; Egypt; Fairy; Food; Ice Cream; Skull.

(Tested on IOS device, based on Strong/weak signs)

Destiel0918

11-04-17, 09:00 PM

So I managed to test almost all current elements against FOOD type.

Here are the results:

Food is STRONG against : Earth
Food is WEAK against: Fire

Food is NEUTRALwith: Autumn; Birthstone; Christmas; Dark; Elecrtic (Lightening); Halloween; Icecream; Legendary ( Crystal); Lucky ( Shamrock) ; Magic; Music; Nature; Rainbow; Realm Rune;
Service; Space ( Planet); Spooky; Spring; Treasure; Tree; Valentines; Water; Zodiac; Fairy

Food is UNTESTED with :Bomb;Egypt; Food; Skull

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(Tested on IOS device, based on Strong/weak signs)

Rynetory2

11-05-17, 12:44 AM

This is very helpful, thanks Destiel0918 :)

Keep adding the results to your placeholder post and I’ll update it to the Battle Chart in the Main Guide some time around next month. :) Thank you.

Destiel0918

11-05-17, 07:56 AM

This is very helpful, thanks Destiel0918 :)

Keep adding the results to your placeholder post and I’ll update it to the Battle Chart in the Main Guide some time around next month. :) Thank you.

You are welcome, I add more if I manage to test out enough. Currently working on Rune fox and hopefully soon I can do Spooky and Fairy.

Limequat

11-05-17, 12:42 PM

Elements yet untested: against Golden Unicorn: Bomb; Egypt; Fairy; Food; Ice Cream; Skull.

Bomb is neutral against Golden Unicorn.

I will test Food when the hour is up, followed by Ice Cream and Skull if I'm still stuck on the Golden Unicorn.

Edit:

Ice Cream and Food are weak.
Skull is neutral.

It looks like whatever is strong/weak against Fire will also be strong/weak against the Golden Unicorn, so the mystery element is neutral to everything.

Destiel0918

11-05-17, 12:54 PM

Bomb is neutral against Golden Unicorn.

I will test Food when the hour is up, followed by Ice Cream and Skull if I'm still stuck on the Golden Unicorn.

Thanks...I don't have those elements so I couldn't test them.

Limequat

11-05-17, 03:41 PM

Thanks...I don't have those elements so I couldn't test them.

Glad I could help. I've updated my results in the post above. Thanks for putting this list together for us!

LauraGSJK

11-05-17, 05:03 PM

Bomb is neutral against Golden Unicorn.

I will test Food when the hour is up, followed by Ice Cream and Skull if I'm still stuck on the Golden Unicorn.

Edit:

Ice Cream and Food are weak.
Skull is neutral.

It looks like whatever is strong/weak against Fire will also be strong/weak against the Golden Unicorn, so the mystery element is neutral to everything.

I could be wrong, but I'm almost certain the "mystery element" is treasure (looks like the gems we use to buy things, speed up breeding, etc.)

Destiel0918

11-05-17, 05:55 PM

I could be wrong, but I'm almost certain the "mystery element" is treasure (looks like the gems we use to buy things, speed up breeding, etc.)

Well, it seems logical, but it NEVER loads in any game- so until we know for sure I don't want to assume.

Rynetory2

11-06-17, 07:09 AM

I could be wrong, but I'm almost certain the "mystery element" is treasure (looks like the gems we use to buy things, speed up breeding, etc.)

Can you post a screenshot if you have?

Rynetory2

11-06-17, 07:14 AM

Hey guys,

Thanks for posting your results. Just want to let you all know that I’m adding the battle chart based on hit strengths to help our Android members without that feature. It will be very helpful if you can post results base on hit strength indicated in your battle screen. Since I can’t differentiate between iOS and android members, please help to indicate in your placement result post if you’re an iOS or android player. Thank you very much for your help to test. :)

Rynetory2

11-13-17, 06:31 AM

@Destiel0918, Limequat

Thanks for testing. Added your results for Golden Unicorn to Battle Chart in Main Guide. https://forums.storm8.com/showthread.php?101491-Fantasy-Forest-Main-Guide&p=1463666&viewfull=1#post1463666

AppieP

11-15-17, 10:09 AM

Anyone already tested fairy and/or spooky against gem creatures?

AppieP

11-19-17, 04:33 AM

What is also strong against Rainbow/Crystal (Opal Octopus) besides Egypt? Egypt is one i dont have sadly enough.

Update: Treent did the job. 2 hits strong

Rynetory2

11-19-17, 06:19 AM

What is also strong against Rainbow/Crystal (Opal Octopus) besides Egypt? Egypt is one i dont have sadly enough.

Update: Treent did the job. 2 hits strong

Dark is strong too. I just updated the Battle Chart recently. Will include your result in the next update. https://forums.storm8.com/showthread.php?101491-Fantasy-Forest-Main-Guide&p=1463666&viewfull=1#post1463666

Destiel0918

11-23-17, 04:47 AM

Anyone already tested fairy and/or spooky against gem creatures?

I've tested Spooky against Gem - it was neutral.

topmom952

11-28-17, 12:44 PM

Christmas/Fire

Strong: Rainbow
Neutral: Crystal

Christmas/Nature

Strong: Rainbow

Rynetory2

11-29-17, 01:50 AM

Christmas, Electric
Strong: Dark
Neutral: Fire

Christmas, Fire
Strong: Earth, Rainbow
Neutral: Crystal, Water

Christmas, Nature
Strong: Fire, Halloween, Rainbow
Weak: Water

Destiel0918

11-30-17, 10:05 AM

So...I did testing against the bomb element. And first time ever -I DID NOT find ANY weaknesses or strengths. Everything I threw against it remained neutral.

From current elements only ones UNTESTED against bomb are: Food; Skull; Winter.

( If I had to guess something works - I would bet on food being the right one, but I can't test it myself.) If anyone can test with those three elements and report results- it would be awesome.

Absolutely everything else was neutral, so no need to write the elements out.

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Rynetory2

12-01-17, 03:27 AM

Looks like the Concussive Canary is a tough cookie!

Rynetory2

12-01-17, 03:29 AM

Music, Water
Strong: Rainbow, Water
Neutral: Crystal, Earth, Electric, Nature, Spring
Weak: Birthstone

Rynetory2

12-01-17, 03:30 AM

Thank you Everyone for posting your results. I've added them to Battle Chart in Main Guide. https://forums.storm8.com/showthread.php?101491-Fantasy-Forest-Main-Guide&p=1463666&viewfull=1#post1463666

Please create a new placeholder post for your results (use template in Post 1) so I can know they are new results for my next periodical update. Thanks.

Destiel0918

12-01-17, 06:27 AM

Opponent Rune Fox

(Use to get )Strong: Earth
(Avoid): Dark

Neutrals: Autumn; Birthstone; Bomb; Christmas; Egypt;Electric;Fairy; Fire; Food
Halloween; Icecream; Legendary ( crystal); Lucky (Shamrock);Magic;Tree; Valentine; Water; Winter; Zodiac;

Untested - NONE.

topmom952

12-01-17, 10:58 PM

Don't know if you have this yet

Food

Neutral: Rainbow

Updated. Rynetory2

Destiel0918

12-01-17, 11:19 PM

Don't know if you have this yet

Food

Neutral: Rainbow

Almost ALL elements have been tested agsainst Food.

Strong: Fire ( use this against food)
Avoid: Earth

Untested elements: Bomb;Egypt; Fairy; Food; Skull; Winter

All the unlisted elements - nuetrals.

Rynetory2

12-03-17, 08:09 PM

Don't know if you have this yet

Food

Neutral: Rainbow

This is useful and nope I didnt have it. Thank you. Feel free to post any test result any time. :)

Added to Battle Chart (https://forums.storm8.com/showthread.php?101491-Fantasy-Forest-Main-Guide&p=1463666&viewfull=1#post1463666) in Main Guide.

Rynetory2

12-03-17, 08:11 PM

All the unlisted elements - nuetrals.

Can you confirm these are the elements for neutral?
Autumn, Birthstone, Christmas, Crystal, Dark, Electric, Gem, Halloween, Icecream, Magic, Music, Nature, Planet, Rainbow, Runes, Service, Shamrock, Spooky, Spring, Tree, Valentine, Water, Zodiac

Rynetory2

12-03-17, 08:14 PM

Music, Earth
Strong: Nature, Water
Neutral: Dark, Earth
Weak: Fire

Music, Fire
Strong: Earth, Rainbow, Water
Neutral: Autumn, Crystal, Fire
Weak: Birthstone, Dark, Electric, Nature

Destiel0918

12-04-17, 02:44 AM

Can you confirm these are the elements for neutral?
Autumn, Birthstone, Christmas, Crystal, Dark, Electric, Gem, Halloween, Icecream, Magic, Music, Nature, Planet, Rainbow, Runes, Service, Shamrock, Spooky, Spring, Tree, Valentine, Water, Zodiac

About food type - yeah - I've tested it with pretty much everything.

Only strong element: Fire (use this against food)
Only weak element: Earth ( avoid using this against food)

Neutrals:

Autumn, Birthstone, Christmas, Crystal, Dark, Electric, Gem, Halloween, Icecream, Magic, Music, Nature, Planet, Rainbow, Runes, Service, Shamrock, Spooky, Spring, Tree, Valentine, Water, Zodiac

Untested: Untested - bomb, skull, egypt..

Updated. Rynetory2

Destiel0918

12-04-17, 02:56 AM

I'dont know if you have this yet:

Space (Planet) was STRONG against dark. ( Also against dark - strong: treasure; fire; Magic; Rune; Fairy) - those I know for sure.

Birthstone was neutral against treasure.
Zodiac was WEAK against treasure.
Ice Cream was STRONG against Earth.

Christmas was WEAK against Dark and fire. ( used Christmas/lightning) - where lightning was never pressed ( and was neutral element).

Tree is WEAK against water.

Updated. Rynetory2

AppieP

12-04-17, 09:44 PM

It's not updated anymore this thread. All the info most be updated to page 1. Otherwise we all need to scroll and look between 19 pages to maby find our answer.

Rynetory2

12-05-17, 12:10 AM