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cocauina
06-23-15, 02:31 PM
EXPIRED


Dragon will expire on June 21st!


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Malachite Dragon - Stone and Green
13hrs incubation - Super Rare
200 Malachite Chunks


This is from my experience - Try to have all the 200 parts until July, 21st, if TL gives more time like they did with Idol, we have until July, 24th

Good luck everyone!

freshfunin2008
06-23-15, 02:34 PM
MALACHITE Dragon - New Mining Dragon 6/23/15
Super Rare Looks like Stone and Green

Good luck collecting your 200 pieces!

belarica
06-23-15, 02:45 PM
It's pretty �� I didn't do great with my bombs, got 48 pieces out of 25 bombs. It's a decent headstart

Paleon
06-23-15, 02:59 PM
Ooo, I like it a lot! Malachite is one of my favorites. I can also finally evolve my dragons now! :D

owa411
06-23-15, 03:10 PM
Not going to waste my time on this one... Pass

Anaboe
06-23-15, 04:03 PM
W00T!!!

Got a bit lucky with mining, and had a titan on the nest = 8 extra bombs. So now I have 80 pieces already...

21062

Btw, I like that it's a rare element dragon (stone). Give us please some Royals too ;)

Mythdefied
06-23-15, 04:39 PM
Argh. 10 pieces out of 8 bombs. I'm really not fond of the mine.

Kennedward
06-23-15, 04:44 PM
Finally, I've been waiting for this, 35 so far :D

bakerystoe
06-23-15, 06:17 PM
This kinda epic and majestic but It's not so cute so I will wait for the another dragon..

glenngenius
06-23-15, 06:20 PM
74 chunks out of 35 bombs. Great start for this mining. :)

Clark_Wayne
06-23-15, 09:54 PM
W00T!!!

Got a bit lucky with mining, and had a titan on the nest = 8 extra bombs. So now I have 80 pieces already...

21062

Btw, I like that it's a rare element dragon (stone). Give us please some Royals too ;)

Agreed :) but it is a little difficult to imagine that some royal stuffs come out from mining LOL
There is already castle dragon, so may be tower dragon or forteress dragon (hybrid stone-royal) ?
Or excalibur dragon (metal-royal) or merlin dragon (royal-magic) ?
Or jet-set dragon (tropic-royal) ? LOL

Btw 30 bombs gave me 72 malachite chunks :D

PrincessCouture2014
06-24-15, 12:02 AM
Didn't like it much but I need to evolve my dragons. Very poor start only 36 pieced from 25 bombs

awsumum
06-24-15, 12:03 AM
Need land to put this (and other) dragons, land is a major issue for me (and other players) please fix this TL!

bakerystoe
06-24-15, 05:26 AM
Agreed :) but it is a little difficult to imagine that some royal stuffs come out from mining LOL
There is already castle dragon, so may be tower dragon or forteress dragon (hybrid stone-royal) ?
Or excalibur dragon (metal-royal) or merlin dragon (royal-magic) ?
Or jet-set dragon (tropic-royal) ? LOL

Btw 30 bombs gave me 72 malachite chunks :D
A guard dragon maybe? Stone royals and yellow:p Palace maybe??

cocauina
06-24-15, 06:13 AM
At leats TL is using the non coloring types, releasing 2 egyptian dragons (Pharaoh and Scarab) without the egyptian element is horrible...

But this wave of stone is already too much.. Tree stone dragons in a row it's not funny.

amerirish
06-24-15, 06:21 AM
I love that they're issuing mining dragons with different elements besides the normal red/green/blue, etc. Gives us a chance to fill some spaces in 'specialty' habitats. I do hope they continue this trend and start giving us Royal, Tropic, Metal and maybe even some Gemstone dragons in the mine.

Kennedward
06-24-15, 06:26 AM
40 now, pretty good I got 5 from 2 bombs because usually I get only 1 or 2 from each bomb

PrincessCouture2014
06-24-15, 07:07 AM
40 now, pretty good I got 5 from 2 bombs because usually I get only 1 or 2 from each bomb

That's good. I got one from most of them today. Now Crusader is evolving.

philstep
06-24-15, 07:07 AM
I got lucky and had 25 bombs and an angel dragon that was done evolving so I had 36 bombs to use right off. Between yesterday's mining and today's I'm up to almost 100.

Kennedward
06-24-15, 07:11 AM
That's good. I got one from most of them today. Now Crusader is evolving.

I know, it's very rare for me to get 3 from 1 bomb, so I'm happy today, evolving for 20 hours now, and so will be mining again tomorrow

PrincessCouture2014
06-24-15, 01:52 PM
I know, it's very rare for me to get 3 from 1 bomb, so I'm happy today, evolving for 20 hours now, and so will be mining again tomorrow

I hope things go this way tomorrow

Kennedward
06-24-15, 07:13 PM
I hope things go this way tomorrow

Thanks, same goes for you as well :D

pernmagic
06-26-15, 03:01 AM
66 so far and a line of dragons waiting for evolving, at the moment I'm getting mainly 2 and a few 3 each time which helps

Kennedward
06-26-15, 06:34 AM
45 now, 1 from each bomb....

belarica
06-26-15, 07:44 AM
98 pieces here

Clark_Wayne
06-26-15, 08:09 AM
I love that they're issuing mining dragons with different elements besides the normal red/green/blue, etc. Gives us a chance to fill some spaces in 'specialty' habitats. I do hope they continue this trend and start giving us Royal, Tropic, Metal and maybe even some Gemstone dragons in the mine.

Gemstone-royal for the crown or the scepter ! That would be great ! :)

amerirish
06-26-15, 08:41 AM
I've only got 66 pieces so far, but I have my brand new Angel baby to put on the nest later today so that will be 11 bombs the day after tomorrow :) hoping I can do some serious damage in the mine then!

Kennedward
06-26-15, 01:07 PM
50 now.... Going slowly.....

zinj
06-26-15, 07:54 PM
My first 22 bombs got me 45 fragments. Onward!

Kennedward
06-27-15, 12:15 PM
52 now

divanightclub
06-27-15, 09:25 PM
90 pieces so far.. getting there slowly but surely and pleasantly surprised to get 3 to 4 pieces from each bomb. Hope my lucky streak continues, especially since I normally get 2 per bomb or sometimes 1 on a bad day!

Good luck all!

PrincessCouture2014
06-28-15, 02:14 AM
63 only

Kennedward
06-28-15, 08:08 AM
60, got 8 from only 2 bombs, sometimes even I amazes myself

zinj
06-28-15, 11:51 AM
My first 22 bombs got me 45 fragments. Onward!

The next 16 bombs got me 36, spot on with the expected value of an efficient search algorithm, bringing the total to 81 fragments from 38 bombs.

Kennedward
06-28-15, 04:51 PM
62 now

belarica
06-28-15, 08:45 PM
126 today ��

Kennedward
06-29-15, 06:33 AM
68 now, going slowly but steadily

amerirish
06-29-15, 10:26 AM
96 pieces - still plugging away :)

belarica
06-29-15, 05:53 PM
142 today :D

Kennedward
06-29-15, 07:26 PM
72 now

belarica
06-30-15, 11:01 AM
151 now

amerirish
06-30-15, 11:21 AM
117 :d

Kennedward
06-30-15, 11:56 AM
75 now

PrincessCouture2014
07-01-15, 07:40 AM
88 now

belarica
07-01-15, 07:45 AM
160 :)

pernmagic
07-01-15, 09:11 AM
161 :)

mommaduex
07-01-15, 09:35 AM
143 Now

Kennedward
07-01-15, 11:40 AM
88 now

pernmagic
07-02-15, 03:15 AM
Had a good run ..... 200 dragon crafting.....

Good luck everyone:)

Kennedward
07-02-15, 05:54 AM
100 now

belarica
07-02-15, 08:06 AM
176 :d

PrincessCouture2014
07-02-15, 11:55 AM
99 now very slow

Kennedward
07-02-15, 12:01 PM
99 now very slow

Me too...

divanightclub
07-02-15, 06:11 PM
144 so far...getting there slowly but surely...

Kennedward
07-02-15, 07:07 PM
110 now.... sure is slow... lol

bakerystoe
07-03-15, 05:04 AM
10:p lol

Kennedward
07-03-15, 06:47 AM
118 now....

PrincessCouture2014
07-04-15, 02:13 AM
113 now. Ken you and me we both are going almost side by side and to think of that we had above 20 bombs saved before starting lol

Kennedward
07-04-15, 07:44 AM
113 now. Ken you and me we both are going almost side by side and to think of that we had above 20 bombs saved before starting lol

Lol I know right? I have 128 now, got 10 from 4 bombs, not bad

PrincessCouture2014
07-04-15, 07:57 AM
Lol I know right? I have 128 now, got 10 from 4 bombs, not bad

Its great 10 from 4 bombs

Kennedward
07-04-15, 07:59 AM
Its great 10 from 4 bombs

Yup, I'm not sure how many more dragons I can mine, since I'm running out of space for habitats, so I usually mine those with types that I don't have a lot of

PrincessCouture2014
07-04-15, 09:52 AM
Yup, I'm not sure how many more dragons I can mine, since I'm running out of space for habitats, so I usually mine those with types that I don't have a lot of

That limit part s u c k s big time. TL should do something about it soon

zinj
07-04-15, 11:02 AM
The next 16 bombs got me 36, spot on with the expected value of an efficient search algorithm, bringing the total to 81 fragments from 38 bombs.

Total so far: 139 fragments from 63 bombs

Crusader is about to complete evolution so time to use the 25 bombs that I'd built up to by Thursday.

58 fragments from 25 bombs, spot on for the expected value of 2.3 fragments per bomb.

That brings me to 139 from 63 bombs, running a bit lower at 2.21 fragments per bomb due to a bad run early on. Friends don't let friends mine distracted!

Cheers!

Z

Kennedward
07-04-15, 05:19 PM
That limit part s u c k s big time. TL should do something about it soon

I know, I actually skipped a few in the past, I didn't mine again until I see types like Black or White, or Stone like this one

divanightclub
07-05-15, 05:21 PM
178 bombs so far..(22 more I need to get)

Mythdefied
07-05-15, 06:08 PM
125 *headdesk*

barbaraann72
07-05-15, 06:09 PM
142/200 - my mining skill has tanked! :)

Kennedward
07-05-15, 08:01 PM
138 now

harshika22
07-06-15, 06:44 AM
Yes!!! Finally crafting this now.

Can someone please tell me if it is possible to craft a second malachite dragon? I feel I still have time to collect enough pieces for a second dragon.

Kennedward
07-06-15, 06:52 AM
Yes!!! Finally crafting this now.

Can someone please tell me if it is possible to craft a second malachite dragon? I feel I still have time to collect enough pieces for a second dragon.

It is still possible now that it's still early, and see how fast you've progressed compared to others like me, you should be able to

debhutchinson
07-06-15, 07:25 AM
I'm really afraid this dragon will be timed out before I can gather 200 malachite chunks from the Mine. I am Level 150 and all my dragons are either Level 7 or Level 10. With no babies on my island, it takes a long time to feed a Level 7 dragon to Level 9 and then evolve him.

I don't know if it's too late but I've started placing my fails in a habitat and evolving them to Level 4. It doesn't take as much food to get the babies to Level 3 and evolve them.

I am maxed out on land. I have sacrificed every piece of decor to maximize housing on my island. This means I can't hatch new eggs and must leave them in Storage. So getting enough bombs for Mining is really, really hard.

Please TL give us more land and a 4-dragon habitat for Stones.

Regards, Deb
50ShadesRetired Isles
Level 150
492 Unique dragons
Many more unique dragons (are still eggs in Storage)
Oh, and my Stables are filled to the rafters with Homelesss dragons

Kennedward
07-06-15, 07:33 AM
I'm really afraid this dragon will be timed out before I can gather 200 malachite chunks from the Mine. I am Level 150 and all my dragons are either Level 7 or Level 10. With no babies on my island, it takes a long time to feed a Level 7 dragon to Level 9 and then evolve him.

I don't know if it's too late but I've started placing my fails in a habitat and evolving them to Level 4. It doesn't take as much food to get the babies to Level 3 and evolve them.

I am maxed out on land. I have sacrificed every piece of decor to maximize housing on my island. This means I can't hatch new eggs and must leave them in Storage. So getting enough bombs for Mining is really, really hard.

Please TL give us more land and a 4-dragon habitat for Stones.

Regards, Deb
50ShadesRetired Isles
Level 150
492 Unique dragons
Many more unique dragons (are still eggs in Storage)
Oh, and my Stables are filled to the rafters with Homelesss dragons

Agreed, I've resorted to evolving dragons that i bred as fails and then selling them

amerirish
07-06-15, 07:57 AM
I've got 176 with a Queztal just put on the nest this morning. Hope this doesn't expire before Friday.

PrincessCouture2014
07-06-15, 10:30 AM
136 now

PrincessCouture2014
07-06-15, 10:30 AM
I've got 176 with a Queztal just put on the nest this morning. Hope this doesn't expire before Friday.

It better not coz I am so far behind

belarica
07-06-15, 10:31 AM
Mine is currently hatching

zyfazix
07-06-15, 11:15 AM
Currently at 96 pieces after using 45 bombs. Not having as much luck finding pieces and just taking it slowly, not interested in getting a 2nd of this (and I don't have a lot of dragons left to evolve)

Paleon
07-06-15, 11:15 AM
Has it really been that long since this dragon was released? Gosh, I really hope this one doesn't expire soon; at 154 pieces and waiting on Cloud to evolve.

harshika22
07-06-15, 12:56 PM
It is still possible now that it's still early, and see how fast you've progressed compared to others like me, you should be able to

Thanks for your reply :). Still on the fence regarding trying for a second one though.

amerirish
07-06-15, 01:16 PM
The first page of this thread mentions that we should have until at least July 21st but with all due respect to coacuina, I would feel much better if we could get an official expiration date from a mod.

PrincessCouture2014
07-06-15, 01:34 PM
The first page of this thread mentions that we should have until at least July 21st but with all due respect to coacuina, I would feel much better if we could get an official expiration date from a mod.

No not right now...

roguebee
07-06-15, 01:55 PM
The first page of this thread mentions that we should have until at least July 21st but with all due respect to coacuina, I would feel much better if we could get an official expiration date from a mod.

Since they started with the mining dragons, the least amount of time has been 28 days between dragons (only happened 6 times), which would make it July 21st for this one. The other 10 times you got an additional 3-4 days. That said, there can always be a first time...

Kennedward
07-06-15, 05:05 PM
Thanks for your reply :). Still on the fence regarding trying for a second one though.

It's up to you, and also depends on your island, if you have tons of space then a second copy is fine, but if you're like me with tons of dragons that you're running out of space, one is more than enough :D

divanightclub
07-07-15, 04:09 PM
194 pieces now.. 6 more to go.. Then I'll be crafting malachite dragon.. Good luck everyone!

Kennedward
07-07-15, 04:39 PM
168 now, so far so good :D

zinj
07-07-15, 11:29 PM
Total so far: 139 fragments from 63 bombs

Crusader is about to complete evolution so time to use the 25 bombs that I'd built up to by Thursday.

58 fragments from 25 bombs, spot on for the expected value of 2.3 fragments per bomb.

That brings me to 139 from 63 bombs, running a bit lower at 2.21 fragments per bomb due to a bad run early on. Friends don't let friends mine distracted!

Cheers!

Z

Total so far: 196 fragments from 88 bombs

My latest batch of 25 bombs yielded 57 fragments, exactly hitting the expected value of 2.3 fragments per bomb.

Total of 196 from 88 bombs is up a couple ticks to 2.23 fragments per bomb, low on account of sloppy mining early in this round.

My second basilisk is crafting now, and when it's done in the morning I'll have 3-4 new bombs that will easily provide the opportunity to get the Malachite crafting!

By easily I mean only about a 1/3,000,000 chance of needing more bombs. My 15 hour evolution has 75% chance of giving 4 bombs, in which case efficient mining has 100% chance of getting me the fragments I need. In the 25% chance event I only get 3 bombs, I would have to get 3 mines in a row that provide the chance to get only 1 fragment with efficient mining. Latest simulations using my mining calculator put the odds of such a mine at 1.1%.

0.25 * 0.011^3 = 0.00000033275

or approximately 1/3,000,000

Malachite here I come!

Z

PrincessCouture2014
07-08-15, 12:39 AM
148 now

Kennedward
07-08-15, 06:29 AM
170, wow only 2 from 2 bombs....

zinj
07-08-15, 10:56 AM
Crafting, with a bomb to spare!

Final count: 200 fragments from 90 bombs, 2.22 fragments per bomb

Onward!

Z

Kennedward
07-08-15, 11:23 AM
Crafting, with a bomb to spare!

Final count: 200 fragments from 90 bombs, 2.22 fragments per bomb

Onward!

Z

Congrats!

divanightclub
07-08-15, 01:31 PM
Crafting mine now... Finally!

rasike
07-08-15, 02:53 PM
I'm crafting mine too!

Kennedward
07-08-15, 04:37 PM
Wow many people have crafted theirs, I'm still waiting for an evolution to finish to get more bombs

zinj
07-08-15, 09:44 PM
Congrats!


Thanks!

PrincessCouture2014
07-08-15, 10:58 PM
Finally crossed 150

Mythdefied
07-09-15, 12:35 AM
This is the slowest it's gone for me, ever. I'm at 169 now, but man, is it crawling! At least it looks like I'll be able to get this one before it runs out.

Kennedward
07-09-15, 06:53 AM
This is the slowest it's gone for me, ever. I'm at 169 now, but man, is it crawling! At least it looks like I'll be able to get this one before it runs out.

Don't worry, you'll get it soon I'm sure

Kennedward
07-09-15, 06:54 AM
180 now :D

barbaraann72
07-09-15, 08:38 AM
Crafting!

Kennedward
07-09-15, 11:14 AM
Crafting!

Congrats!

ma1eficent
07-09-15, 11:39 AM
I am new to mining. Can someone tell me how do you get bombs and how do you get dynamite?
And also how the mining process goes? I click wherever...

Kennedward
07-09-15, 11:45 AM
I am new to mining. Can someone tell me how do you get bombs and how do you get dynamite?
And also how the mining process goes? I click wherever...

Bombs are from evolving dragnos, Dynamites are from breeding dragons.

There's a thread on mining that can give you hints, here's the link
http://forum.storm8.com/showthread.php?72394-Dragon-Story-Mining-Guide

ma1eficent
07-09-15, 11:57 AM
Thank you!

Kennedward
07-09-15, 06:07 PM
192 now, so close yet so far away lol

PrincessCouture2014
07-10-15, 07:19 AM
163 still so far far away

Kennedward
07-10-15, 07:27 AM
Finally got 200 to craft now, I made another miracle today with 8 pieces from only 3 bombs :cool:

zinj
07-10-15, 09:22 PM
So I realized that my evolving crusader would put me over 25 so it was time to mine!

Total so far: 4 fragments from 2 bombs

This is within the expected range given an expected value of 2.3 fragments per bomb.

Onward!

Z

Kennedward
07-10-15, 09:30 PM
This will probably be my last crafting, as I no longer have any space for dragons now, so good luck to everyone crafting :D

zaccy678
07-11-15, 04:35 AM
Done!!

Don't want two, so I guess I should hold off on evolving dragons until the next one?

ma1eficent
07-11-15, 05:14 AM
163 still so far far away

16 as I just recently got mining available.... now this is far :D i don't think that i will be able to craft it... just another pile of items that will stay in storage...

roguebee
07-12-15, 07:26 PM
Started crafting mine this morning.

Kennedward
07-13-15, 06:25 AM
Done!!

Don't want two, so I guess I should hold off on evolving dragons until the next one?

Yea you should, save your bombs for the next one :D

luna2cute
07-13-15, 01:58 PM
How much longer do we have? I'm only just at about 120...

luna2cute
07-13-15, 01:59 PM
Nevermind I just read the first post again...July 21 approximately. Haha.

Kennedward
07-13-15, 02:31 PM
Nevermind I just read the first post again...July 21 approximately. Haha.

Oh I was just about to answer you lol So approx. 7 to 8 days depending on your time zone, so roughly a week to go, good luck to all those still mining :D

PrincessCouture2014
07-13-15, 04:04 PM
196 only 4 left :)

luna2cute
07-13-15, 04:47 PM
I better get mining!!!!!

Kennedward
07-13-15, 07:30 PM
196 only 4 left :)

Nice! You're almost there! :D

Kennedward
07-13-15, 07:30 PM
I better get mining!!!!!

Good luck! Keep evolving dragons and mining! :cool:

PrincessCouture2014
07-14-15, 01:09 AM
Crafting mine now

zyfazix
07-14-15, 06:08 AM
I've reached an average of 2.179 pieces per bomb, the highest since I started to keep track

Kennedward
07-14-15, 06:45 AM
Crafting mine now

Congrats!

zinj
07-14-15, 03:36 PM
So I realized that my evolving crusader would put me over 25 so it was time to mine!

Total so far: 4 fragments from 2 bombs

This is within the expected range given an expected value of 2.3 fragments per bomb.

Onward!

Z

Total so far: 56 fragments with 26 bombs

This is with the addition of 52 fragments from 24 bombs, at a rate of 2.17 fragments per bomb.

This gives an overall rate of 2.15 fragments per bomb.

I haven't had any particularly poor outputs that can be attributed to user error, although most of this has been without the help of my calculator so it may or may not be carried out with the efficiency that achieves an average of 2.3 fragments per bomb. That said, I observe a variance of .27 in my simulations of fragments per bomb, which would produce a standard error for a sample of 26 of 0.10 and an approximate 95% confidence interval of 2.09-2.51 fragments per bomb. So I'm riding a bit low but not significantly so!

zinj
07-14-15, 03:56 PM
I've reached an average of 2.179 pieces per bomb, the highest since I started to keep track

That's pretty good! How many bombs is that based on?

zyfazix
07-14-15, 04:46 PM
That's pretty good! How many bombs is that based on?

That's from using 84 bombs. Previous mining dragons were between 2.139 and 2.156. It's not much difference but they're all enough to get a second dragon with enough bombs saved up before release

Mythdefied
07-14-15, 07:36 PM
Finally crafted mine this weekend. I'm so sick of the mine right now.

Kennedward
07-14-15, 07:37 PM
Agreed, and since I have officially ran out of space, I won't mine anymore for the next dragon

zinj
07-14-15, 09:33 PM
Total so far: 56 fragments with 26 bombs

This is with the addition of 52 fragments from 24 bombs, at a rate of 2.17 fragments per bomb.

This gives an overall rate of 2.15 fragments per bomb.

I haven't had any particularly poor outputs that can be attributed to user error, although most of this has been without the help of my calculator so it may or may not be carried out with the efficiency that achieves an average of 2.3 fragments per bomb. That said, I observe a variance of .27 in my simulations of fragments per bomb, which would produce a standard error for a sample of 26 of 0.10 and an approximate 95% confidence interval of 2.09-2.51 fragments per bomb. So I'm riding a bit low but not significantly so!

Total so far: 79 fragments with 35 bombs

This is with the addition of 23 fragments with 9 bombs, at a fantastic rate of 2.56 fragments per bomb. The 95% confidence interval for 9 bombs is 18-24, so this was a very fortunate trip to the mines! The fact that this was the first time in my work on the second Malachite that I used my calculator was a nice affirmation of the approach.

This brought my total rate to 2.26 fragments per bomb, a nice regression to the mean.

Onward!

Z

kasumi2012
07-15-15, 01:59 AM
Total so far: 79 fragments with 35 bombs

This is with the addition of 23 fragments with 9 bombs, at a fantastic rate of 2.56 fragments per bomb. The 95% confidence interval for 9 bombs is 18-24, so this was a very fortunate trip to the mines! The fact that this was the first time in my work on the second Malachite that I used my calculator was a nice affirmation of the approach.

This brought my total rate to 2.26 fragments per bomb, a nice regression to the mean.

Onward!

Z

Got 201 fragments for 121 boms, not so lucky as you, just at rate 1.7 pcs/bombs. Any tricks to do mining for 2.26 pcs/bomb?
i mean without refill of course. Just as far the 1st health bar can handle.

zinj
07-15-15, 09:19 PM
Total so far: 79 fragments with 35 bombs

This is with the addition of 23 fragments with 9 bombs, at a fantastic rate of 2.56 fragments per bomb. The 95% confidence interval for 9 bombs is 18-24, so this was a very fortunate trip to the mines! The fact that this was the first time in my work on the second Malachite that I used my calculator was a nice affirmation of the approach.

This brought my total rate to 2.26 fragments per bomb, a nice regression to the mean.

Onward!

Z

Total so far: 93 fragments with 41 bombs

This is with the addition of 14 fragments with 6 bombs, on the healthy side of the expected rate at 2.33 fragments per bomb.

This brought my total rate to 2.27 fragments per bomb, slightly under but approximately at the expected rate.

Onward!

Z

zinj
07-15-15, 10:51 PM
Got 201 fragments for 121 boms, not so lucky as you, just at rate 1.7 pcs/bombs. Any tricks to do mining for 2.26 pcs/bomb?
i mean without refill of course. Just as far the 1st health bar can handle.

I've never refilled actually and don't know exactly how that works. I think gold to speed evolution is probably the most efficient way to buy extra time in the mines!

If you haven't already, check out the Mining Guide (http://forums.storm8.com/showthread.php?72394-Dragon-Story-Mining-Guide). It's a great guide to start with. It's not optimal - there are a few suggestions that are not as efficient a strategy as could be had and it's of limited use after finding the first fragment - but it can give a good set of starting approaches that can likely push you up to an average of 2 fragments per mine. I also posted comments there as I developed the first drafts of my algorithm.

If you are familiar with R, I would be happy to send my R code in which I have the latest and greatest version of my calculator coded. It's not pretty - all text console style computer interface and a coordinate map of the mine - but its what I'm presently using. I've written a javascript version that can run in a browser (at present even less pretty still), but it's not currently up to date with the latest algorithm improvements. At some point I'll post it somewhere.

The gist of my approach is to choose based on the following three successive criteria. The spot needs to inform on the most number of potential locations available; of those it needs to have the greatest variance in distances from fragment that the response can indicate (0, 1, 2, and 3 if "Too Far" can only be 3); of those, I choose one closest to the edge as a crude means of minimizing fragmentation of the search space.

That variance computation is something a calculator is good at that human brains are less so, but the algorithm can be approximated (in my experience getting me around 2-2.2 fragments per bomb instead of 2.3) with a handful of moves that work in many situations. This approach breaks down as the search space gets broken up by a heavily bombed mine, so there is reduced odds of 3 or more fragments. But 2+ is achievable.

I'd be glad to discuss such moves further (perhaps in its own thread?) if anyone is interested in improving upon the Mining Guide linked above. I've been very pleased to find some moves I was led to by the algorithm that improve on those I worked out by hand!

Cheers,
Z

MazReptile
07-16-15, 02:06 PM
I have 69 pieces left to get and about 7 dragons that need evolving to at level 7, then can epic them. But I doubt I can get all the pieces by the end date :/

Kennedward
07-16-15, 05:18 PM
I have 69 pieces left to get and about 7 dragons that need evolving to at level 7, then can epic them. But I doubt I can get all the pieces by the end date :/

We're all beginning to face the same problem: not enough dragons to evolve

zinj
07-16-15, 08:04 PM
I have 69 pieces left to get and about 7 dragons that need evolving to at level 7, then can epic them. But I doubt I can get all the pieces by the end date :/


We're all beginning to face the same problem: not enough dragons to evolve

However many dragons are available for evolving, 131 fragments will be a tough haul without an allotment of gold given the expected length of a mining campaign.

Given a maximum expected yield (sans gold) of 2.3 fragments per bomb, 131 fragments would require an estimated 57 bombs to collect. Those 57 bombs would require 228 hours of evolution to acquire, requiring a minimum of 9.5 days. We are presently 23 days into the mining campaign. From what I understand, these generally last from 28 to 31 days. Without factoring in the hour of day, which is variable by user, that suggests that you would need 32.5 days total to complete the Malachite dragon. That appears to be about 1.5 days more than is expected to be available.

With a couple dozen gold to accelerate evolution, and available dragons to evolve, it can be done. Then if those 14 evolution sum to 228 hours, then you would be able to get the Malachite. I haven't done the analysis, but I expect that the average of 16+ hour required per evolution is greater than you have available. Maybe hatch some Water Dragons with some silver to evolve as needed?

Z

Kennedward
07-16-15, 08:23 PM
However many dragons are available for evolving, 131 fragments will be a tough haul without an allotment of gold given the expected length of a mining campaign.

Given a maximum expected yield (sans gold) of 2.3 fragments per bomb, 131 fragments would require an estimated 57 bombs to collect. Those 57 bombs would require 228 hours of evolution to acquire, requiring a minimum of 9.5 days. We are presently 23 days into the mining campaign. From what I understand, these generally last from 28 to 31 days. Without factoring in the hour of day, which is variable by user, that suggests that you would need 32.5 days total to complete the Malachite dragon. That appears to be about 1.5 days more than is expected to be available.

With a couple dozen gold to accelerate evolution, and available dragons to evolve, it can be done. Then if those 14 evolution sum to 228 hours, then you would be able to get the Malachite. I haven't done the analysis, but I expect that the average of 16+ hour required per evolution is greater than you have available. Maybe hatch some Water Dragons with some silver to evolve as needed?

Z

Oh I meant my existing dragons that are mostly reaching Lv10, which doesn't allow me to get more bombs unless I breed a second copy of an existing dragon or use some fails that I breed and then trade it for gems.

Anyways, I won't be mining for dragons anymore until more land is given, as I've filled every spot on my island.

Peggyg723
07-17-15, 08:22 AM
mine is crafting now - question -- do I have to hatch egg before time is up or once I'm crafting its mine forever?

Kennedward
07-17-15, 10:21 AM
mine is crafting now - question -- do I have to hatch egg before time is up or once I'm crafting its mine forever?

Once you started crafting it's there until you decided to put it to hatch on a nest

Peggyg723
07-17-15, 10:22 AM
thanks

belarica
07-17-15, 10:56 AM
Glad to see this one on its way out, ready for the next!

Seranda
07-17-15, 01:29 PM
I hate mining. I'm like halfway through this one. I can't play all day every day so my time is limited. I never let myself get maxed on bombs so they get wasted. I wish the limit was higher than 25.

I love dragons but mining is so boring... I have a hard time getting enough bombs to finish these in time. How do people get 2 dragons? Surely they are using gold to speed up evolutions but where do you get all that food.

I'm doing something wrong. I have I think all of the mining dragons. This one seems far out of reach for me now...

roguebee
07-17-15, 01:35 PM
Saw the announcement where collecting for this one ends on Tuesday.

Kennedward
07-17-15, 03:17 PM
Saw the announcement where collecting for this one ends on Tuesday.

Yup, so those nearly at 200 should hurry up, those that are not however, don't really have much chance, so better luck next dragon!

zinj
07-17-15, 04:44 PM
I love dragons but mining is so boring... I have a hard time getting enough bombs to finish these in time. How do people get 2 dragons? Surely they are using gold to speed up evolutions but where do you get all that food.



If the mining operation is 28 days that means one can get 168 bombs in that time. At a theoretical yield of 2.3 fragments per bomb, only 386 fragments are likely. Then an expected 7 bombs would be needed (or 6 with the barest of luck to average a bit above the expected) would require 28 gold (or 24 with luck) to accelerate evolutions and get those bombs. If starting the campaign with a cache of 25 bombs, then one need only an average yield of 2.073 fragments per bomb to get two dragons so this is quite achievable.

If it is a 31 day mining campaign, one can get 187 bombs and and an achievable yield of 2.14 fragments per bomb will get you two dragons.

So, if desiring 2 dragons on the campaign starting Tuesday, start saving your bombs now! :)

zinj
07-17-15, 08:44 PM
Anyone know what gemstones the Malachite gets in trade?

ma1eficent
07-17-15, 10:33 PM
The ones that got mining available too late and now have 60 malachits, what are we going to do with these?

Mythdefied
07-18-15, 12:23 AM
The ones that got mining available too late and now have 60 malachits, what are we going to do with these?

Congratulations on your new useless pieces cluttering up your storage! I hope you like them, because you'll never get rid of them. Ever.

Kennedward
07-18-15, 06:15 AM
Congratulations on your new useless pieces cluttering up your storage! I hope you like them, because you'll never get rid of them. Ever.

I think TL should either:

1. Re-introduce previous mining dragons so we can use those parts again

or

2. Allow us to have an option to delete some older useless parts

Paleon
07-18-15, 11:17 AM
I think TL should either:

1. Re-introduce previous mining dragons so we can use those parts again

or

2. Allow us to have an option to delete some older useless parts

I've seen someone suggest a sort of mix-matched dragon, built using old, unused parts from storage. Choice 3? :D

Kennedward
07-18-15, 12:27 PM
I've seen someone suggest a sort of mix-matched dragon, built using old, unused parts from storage. Choice 3? :D

Agreed! Certainly a better use than to leave them useless in storage! :D

zinj
07-18-15, 02:16 PM
Anyone know what gemstones the Malachite gets in trade?

Looks like it would be a large white, large green, and a mystery box. Doesn't move me closer to any crafted dragons I want so I think I'll sit on my hundred or so malachite chunks and not spend the gold it would take to get that second dragon. The 25 bombs I'll have stored up virtually guarantee two of whatever comes next!

Kennedward
07-18-15, 03:59 PM
Looks like it would be a large white, large green, and a mystery box. Doesn't move me closer to any crafted dragons I want so I think I'll sit on my hundred or so malachite chunks and not spend the gold it would take to get that second dragon. The 25 bombs I'll have stored up virtually guarantee two of whatever comes next!

Agreed, I also wouldn't get a 2nd one just to trade it as I don't need anymore large white or green gems. The mystery box always end up as either scrolls or dust to me, so I never liked those

zinj
07-19-15, 11:47 PM
Total so far: 93 fragments with 41 bombs

This is with the addition of 14 fragments with 6 bombs, on the healthy side of the expected rate at 2.33 fragments per bomb.

This brought my total rate to 2.27 fragments per bomb, slightly under but approximately at the expected rate.

Onward!

Z

Total so far: 100 fragments with 44 bombs

No use letting bombs go to waste. An additional 7 fragment with 3 bombs, at 2.33 fragments per bomb, which maintains the total rate at 2.27 fragment per bomb at the half way point.

owa411
07-20-15, 05:09 AM
Glad that this one is almost finished. Have a lot of dragons that need to evolve. Saving them for the next dragon

Kennedward
07-20-15, 06:08 AM
Glad that this one is almost finished. Have a lot of dragons that need to evolve. Saving them for the next dragon

Yea, just 1 more day! :cool:

roguebee
07-20-15, 07:35 AM
Glad that this one is almost finished. Have a lot of dragons that need to evolve. Saving them for the next dragon

Me too.

saghaven
07-20-15, 07:46 AM
Started crafting mine Saturday night. Still got plenty of dragons to evolve so I'm ready for the next one!

amerirish
07-20-15, 11:35 AM
Started crafting mine Saturday night. Still got plenty of dragons to evolve so I'm ready for the next one!

Ditto! I can't wait to see what's next :D

Kennedward
07-20-15, 04:39 PM
I ran out of space so I won't be mining for dragons anymore, good luck though!

ratsinthecity
07-21-15, 09:50 AM
Does anyone know how long before the current mining dragon ends and the mine opens up for the next? I know it wasn't immediate, last time there was a little bit of time between one mining dragon event ending and the next beginning. I am asking for a specific reason. I have 25 bombs in storage and I have a crusader ready to come out of evolving so I can put my amphora dragon in to evolve to ready it for the next wild wind chapter. BUT, I don't want to take crusader out yet and lose his bombs worth so I need to use up the ones I have in storage when the next mining event starts. I am trying to time my next chapter starting with my amphora dragon evolving and the amphora adventure quest. I thought last time it was about an hour, maybe someone would be gracious enough to answer.

amerirish
07-21-15, 10:22 AM
Does anyone know how long before the current mining dragon ends and the mine opens up for the next? I know it wasn't immediate, last time there was a little bit of time between one mining dragon event ending and the next beginning. I am asking for a specific reason. I have 25 bombs in storage and I have a crusader ready to come out of evolving so I can put my amphora dragon in to evolve to ready it for the next wild wind chapter. BUT, I don't want to take crusader out yet and lose his bombs worth so I need to use up the ones I have in storage when the next mining event starts. I am trying to time my next chapter starting with my amphora dragon evolving and the amphora adventure quest. I thought last time it was about an hour, maybe someone would be gracious enough to answer.

Typically the new dragon appears about 4 hours after the old one goes away. For me, the mine ends at 1:30 PM (EST) so the new one should appear around 5:30 PM. That being said, TL can be a bit unpredictable so I tend to check at least once per hour.