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A2TUDE
11-11-14, 12:38 PM
Good luck every one

Round 1 PYRO beaten by rhino
Round 2 Armodillo beaten by galacial griffon .... W
Round 3 Raiguin beaten by emerald ..... N
Round 4 Werewolf beatene by emerald ..... N
Round 5 Rhino beaten by emerald ..... N
Round 6 Daredevil beaten by magamocore .... E
Round 7 Jackolope beaten by hyppogrpyh..... W
Round 8 Chameneon beaten by gold lion ..... E
Round 9 Koala beaten by magmacore .... E
Round 10 Iciclaw beaten by emerald .... N
Round 11 Solar beaten by glacial griffin .... W
Round 12 Rampage beaten by glacial griffin .... W
Round 13 Bansheep beaten by Magmacore ..... E
Round 14 Volcamel beaten by emerald...... N
Round 15 Arboar beaten by hyppogrpyh ..... W
Round 16 Terrior beaten by glacial griffin .... W
Round 17 Spruce moose beaten by Magmacore ..... F
Round 18 Eagle beagle beaten by nightmare..... F
Round 19 Nightmare beaten by glacial griffin .... W
Round 20 Twilight troll beaten by nightmare ..... F
Round 21 Falcon beaten by thorilla ..... E
Round 22 Emerald beaten by nightmare ....D
Round 23 Hyppogrpyh beaten by thorilla .... E
Round 24 Golden lion beaten by gargolem .... E
Round 25 Unicorn beaten by skyger ..... D
Round 26 Sea horse beaten by golden lion.... E
Round 27 yak o lantern beaten by toucan(level15) ..... G
Round 28 Emerald beaten by toucan ......G
Round 29 Skeletal beaten by rainguin ....W
Round 30 THANKSGIBBON BEATEN BY MAGMACORE .... E

20hrs nest 22hrs evolve

16665 16673

I always use this as a guide....


Pure Gem: Use Dark-Water, Dark-Earth, Dark-Nature, or Dark-Fire. <DARK>

Gem-Nature: Use Dark-Fire

Pure Electric: Use Electric-Earth, Dark-Earth, Earth-Nature or Earth-Fire <EARTH>

Electric-Water: Use Electric-Earth

Electric-Earth: Use Earth-Nature

Electric-Nature: Use Electric-Fire, Dark-Fire, Earth-Fire or Nature-Fire <FIRE>

Electric-Fire: Use Electric-Earth or Earth-Fire <EARTH>

Pure Dark: Use Electric-Fire, Dark-Fire, Earth-Fire, or Nature-Fire <FIRE>

Dark-Water: Use Electric-Water, Electric-Earth. Electric-Nature or Electric-Fire <ELECTRIC>

Dark-Earth: Use Dark-Nature, Water-Nature, Earth-Nature or Nature-Fire. <NATURE>

Dark-Nature: Use Electric-Fire, Dark-Fire or Nature-Fire <FIRE>

Dark-Fire: Use Water-Earth or Earth-Fire

Pure Water: Use Electric-Water, Electric-Earth or Electric-Nature <ELECTRIC>

Water-Earth: Use Gem-Nature, Electric-Nature, Dark-Nature, Water-Nature or Earth-Nature <NATURE>

Water-Nature: use Electric-Water, Electric-Nature or Electric-Fire. <ELECTRIC>

Pure Earth: Use Gem-Nature, Dark-Nature, Water-Nature or Earth-Nature. <NATURE>

Earth-Nature: Gem-Nature, Dark-Nature, Water-Nature or Nature-Fire <NATURE>

Earth-Fire: Use Water-Earth

Pure Nature: Use Electric-Fire, Dark-Fire or Nature-Fire <FIRE>

Nature-Fire: Use Electric-Water, Electric-Fire, Water-Earth or Earth-Fire. <FIRE> <WATER>

Pure Fire: Use Water-Earth

Bambamstad
11-11-14, 12:42 PM
Round 1 iciclaw 15 beat pyro pony, water attack
Round 2 iciclaw 15 lost to amordillo water attack, unicorn 10 lost Gem attack, iciclaw lost again water attack, finally.....
Round 2 sloth 15 beat amardillo, earth attack, third was critical. Cost 8 gems
Round 3 unicorn 10 lost to rainguin, better put unicorn on hold for now...
Round 3 sloth 15 nature attack lost to rainguin
Round 3 unicorn 10 beat rainguin, crystal attack
Round 4 unicorn 10 beat werewolf, crystal attack
Round 5 unicorn 10 beat rock rhino, crystal attack, third one critical
Round 6 terradactyl 10 beat daredevil, earth attack
Round 7 gold lion 10 lost to jackalope, fire attack
Round 7 unicorn 10 lost to jackalope, crystal attack
Round 7 iciclaw 15 beat jackalope, water attack, third one critical
Round 8 terradactyl 10 beat chameneon, electric attack, critical
Round 9 sloth 15 beat koala cadabra, earth attack, critical
Round 10 unicorn 10 lost to iciclaw, crystal attack
Round 10 sloth 15 beat iciclaw, nature attack, two times neutral, third critical
Round 11 unicorn 10 beat solar simian, chrystal attack, two critical hits
Round 12 iciclaw 15 beat rampage, water attack
Round 13 sloth 15 lost to bansheep, earth attack
Round 13 vinotaur 15 beat bansheep, fire attack
Round 14 iciclaw 15 lost to volcamel, water attack
Round 14 sloth 15 beat volcamel, earth attack strong, nature attack critical
Round 15 zapra 10 lost to arboar, electric attack
Round 15 unicorn 10 beat arboar, crystal attack, third one critical
Round 16 magmacore 11 beat terrorier, earth attack, critical
Round 17 vinotaur 15 lost to spruce moose, fire attack
Round 17 vinotaur 15 beat spruce moose, fire attack
Round 18 vinotaur 15 beat eagle beagle, fire attack
Round 19 iciclaw 15 beat nightmare, water attack, first critical
Round 20 vinotaur 15 beat twilight troll, fire attack, first critical
Round 21 terradactyl 10 lost to falconch, electric and earth attack
Round 21 sloth 15 beat falconch, earth attack, third one critical
Round 22 nightmare 13 beat emerald dragon, dark attack, k/o with first hit
Round 23 sloth 15 lost to hippogryph, earth attack
Round 23 terradactyl 10 lost to hippogryph, twice earth attack, once electric
Round 23 sloth 15 beat hippogryph, earth attack, second critical
Round 24 terradactyl 10 lost to gold lion, earth attack
Round 24 sloth 15 beat gold lion, earth attack, two critical hits
Round 25 nightmare 13 lost twice to unicorn, dark attack
Round 25 sea drake 10 beat unicorn, dark attack
Round 26 unicorn 10 beat sea horse, crystal attack, two critical hits
Round 27 iciclaw 15 beat yak-o-lantern, water attack, second critical
Round 28 nightmare 13 lost to emerald dragon, dark, dark, fire attack
Round 28 unicorn 10 lost to emerald dragon, crystal attack
Round 28 vinotaur 15 lost to emerald dragon, fire attack
Round 28 nightmare 14 lost three times to emerald dragon, dark attack
Round 28 seadrake 10 lost, dark attack, spend 4 gems to speed up
Round 28 nightmare 14 beat emerald dragon, dark attack, critical k/o
Round 29 iciclaw 15 lost to skeletal, water attack
Round 29 unicorn 10 lost to skeletal, crystal attack
Round 29 iciclaw 15 lost to skeletal, earth, water, earth
Round 29 iciclaw 15 lost to skeletal, water attack
Round 29 unicorn 10 lost to skeletal, crystal attack
Round 29 iciclaw 15 lost to skeletal, water attack
Round 29 iciclaw 15 beat skeletL dragon, water attack, second critical
ROUND 30 SLOTH 15 beat THANKSGIBBON, EARTH ATTACK, THIRD CRITICAL

FINISHED!

zenobia42
11-11-14, 12:46 PM
RoundOpponentStrong Attack(s)Best Bets to Beat it
1 Pyro Pony (fire) water, earth Water-earth is best. Electric-earth, electric-water, earth-fire, water-fire good.
2 Armordillo (earth-fire) gem, water, earth Water-earth is best. Gem & gem-fire also good.
3 Rainguin (water-earth) gem,
nature strong againGem-nature best. Gem great.
Earth-nature, water-nature, dark-nature good.
4 Werewolf (earth-nature) gem,
nature strong again Gem-nature best. Gem great.
Water-nature, dark-nature good.
5 Rock Rhino (earth) gem,
nature strong againGem-nature best. Gem great.
Your best nature withOUT fire or electric good.
6 Daredevil (electric-fire) earth x2 Earth-fire or earth-electric are best. Gem or gem-fire good.
7 Jackalope (nature-fire)fire, water, gemSteamtrunk and Ruby Razorback are best. Gem also excellent. Electric-fire, electric-water good.
8 Chameneon (dark-water) electricUse your best electric withOUT fire.
9 Koala Cadabra (electric-dark) fire, earthEarth-fire is best. (Fire or earth) with (nature, dark or electric) good.
10 Iciclaw (water-earth) gem, natureGem-nature best. Gem great.
Earth-nature, water-nature, dark-nature good.
11 Solar Simian (nature-fire) fire, water, gemGem-fire & water-fire are best. Gem also excellent. Electric-fire, electric-water good.
12 Rampage (earth-fire) earth, water, gem.Water-earth 2x strong. Gem, gem-nature great. Earth-nature, water-nature good.
13 Bansheep (electric-dark) fire, earthEarth-fire is best. (Fire or earth) with (nature, dark or electric) good.
14 Volcamel (earth-fire) earth, water, gem.Water-earth 2x strong. Gem great.
15 Arboar (water-nature) electric, gem Gem is best. Electric with nature, water or dark good. Gem-fire also good.
16 Terrorier (dark-fire) fire, earth, waterEarth-fire, earth-water, water-fire best. Electric with fire, earth or water good.
17 Spruce Moose (dark-nature) fire x2Use your best fire withOUT earth or gem.
18 Eagle Beagle (electric-nature)gem, fireGem-fire best. Gem, gem-nature great. Electric-fire, dark-fire, nature-fire good.
19 Nightmare (dark-fire) fire, earth, waterEarth-fire, earth-water, water-fire best. Electric with fire, earth or water good.
20 Twilight Troll (dark-nature) fire x2Your best fire withOUT earth or gem.
21 Falconch (electric-water) electric, earth Electric-earth best. Electric-nature, electric-dark, dark-earth, earth-nature good.
22 Emerald Dragon (gem-nature) gem, dark, fire Gem-fire is best. Dark-fire is excellent. Gem very good. Electric-dark, dark-water, electric-fire, water-fire good.
23 Hippogryph (electric-water) electric, earth Electric-earth best. Electric-nature, electric-dark, dark-earth, earth-nature good.
24 Gold Lion (electric-fire) earth x2 Earth-fire, earth-electric are best.
25 Crystal Unicorn (gem) dark Use your best dark withOUT nature or earth.
26 Sea Horse (water-nature) gem, electric Gem, gem-nature best. Electric-nature, electric-water, electric-dark good.
27 Yak-o-Lantern (earth-fire) gem, water, earth Water-earth 2x strong. Gem excellent.
28 Emerald Dragon (gem-nature) gem, dark, fire Gem-fire is best. Dark-fire is excellent. Gem, Electric-dark, dark-water, electric-fire, water-fire good.
29 Skeletal Dragon (earth-fire) gem, water, earth Water-earth 2x strong. Gem great.
30 Thanksgibbon (dark-fire) fire, earth, waterEarth-fire, earth-water, water-fire best. Electric with fire, earth or water good.


The animals I used to beat each round (NOTE: I would probably not have used the unicorn even half as much as I did if nature had been showing as strong vs. earth in the first 2 days of the tourney):
Glacial Griffin 10 {water attack} beat Pyro Pony.
Crystal Unicorn 12 {gem attack} beat Armordillo.
Crystal Unicorn 12 {gem attack} beat Rainguin.
Crystal Unicorn 12 {gem attack} beat Werewolf.
Crystal Unicorn 12 {gem attack} beat Rock Rhino.
Terradactyl 15 {earth attack} beat Daredevil.
Crystal Unicorn 12 {gem attack} beat Jackalope.
Terradactyl {electric attack)} beat Chameneon.
Ancient Sloth 15 {earth attack} beat Koala Cadabra.
Crystal Unicorn 13 {gem attack} beat Iciclaw. On the 7th attempt.
Steam Trunk {fire attack} beat Solar Simian.
Glacial Griffin 10 {earth attack} beat Rampage.
Ancient Sloth 15 {earth attack} beat Bansheep.
Glacial Griffin 10 {water attack} beat Volcamel.
Falconch 10 {electric attack} beat Arboar.
Terradactyl 15 {earth attack} beat Terrorier.
Nightmare 15 {fire attack} beat Spruce Moose.
Ruby Razorback 9 {gem attack} beat Eagle Beagle.
Glacial Griffin 10 {earth attack} beat Nightmare.
Nightmare 15 {fire attack} beat Twilight Troll.
Terradactyl 15 {earth attack} beat Falconch.
Nightmare 15 {dark attack} beat Emerald Dragon.
Terradactyl 15 {electric attack} beat Hippogryph.
Ancient Sloth 15 {earth attack} beat Gold Lion.
Nightmare 15 {dark attack} beat Crystal Unicorn.
Crystal Unicorn 13 {gem attack} beat Sea Horse.
Crystal Unicorn 13 {gem attack} beat Yak-o-Lantern
Nightmare 15 {dark attack} beat Emerald Dragon.
Glacial Griffin 10 {water attack} beat Skeletal Dragon.
Steamtrunk 10 {forgot which attack} beat Thanksgibbon.

pondicus
11-11-14, 12:48 PM
Huh, though luck the Pony beat my level 11 Griffin ):

Galadraal
11-11-14, 12:49 PM
Thanks A2tude :-) I just saw the tourney was up :-) I should've checked when I saw they had one up for Dragon Story :-) They seem to be running them together now

zenobia42
11-11-14, 12:50 PM
When the opportunity in this arena tournament arises to use nature attack on earth, can everyone please post whether their nature attack is still strong vs. earth? Some folks in the battlegrounds were not getting "strong attack" messages with nature vs. pure earth, even though we should unless they changed the formulas. So confirmation would be much appreciated. Also if anyone gets an unexpected strong, weak or neutral on any animal, please post that. If they did suddenly change nature to no longer be strong to earth, we want to be sure if that is the only thing they changed or not. Thanks. :)

ETA: The relationships between the elements in the previous arena tournament were:
http://i1307.photobucket.com/albums/s586/zenobia42/FFS-strengths-take4_zpsa4684586.jpg
where an element being on top of another means it is strong to it.

Bambamstad
11-11-14, 12:51 PM
round 1 used glacial griffin 10 water attack, crit **** first hit.

Dear Zen, if you have some spare moments, could you provide us with such a splendid table as you did before...it would be very helpful for a lot of the community members.....:o

dreamusman
11-11-14, 12:52 PM
What animal is on round 3

ramothsflight
11-11-14, 12:53 PM
Huh, though luck the Pony beat my level 11 Griffin ):

My level 12 glacial griffin lost too. Three strong attacks. The game is still random. Even if you have the best known and proven fighter, some games will still lose every time.

zenobia42
11-11-14, 12:56 PM
Dear Zen, if you have some spare moments, could you provide us with such a splendid table as you did before...it would be very helpful for a lot of the community members.....:o

Sure thing! I will add the table to my first post in this thread, which is post #3.

I already added the little graphic to my post #6 just above, noting that it worked for the last arena tournament. I very sincerely hope that nature is still strong vs. earth in this one. Otherwise, the only thing strong to earth would be gem, which so many don't have.

A2TUDE
11-11-14, 12:57 PM
Raiguin beat by emerald I used emearald

zenobia42
11-11-14, 12:58 PM
My level 12 glacial griffin lost too. Three strong attacks. The game is still random. Even if you have the best known and proven fighter, some games will still lose every time.

Mine won but there is such a HUGE random factor in these battles that I do recognize mine worked only because of luck.

I was actually thinking of leveling my griffin from 10 to 15 this afternoon, trying to plan ahead for the next tournament. Looks like I'm too late though. :( I don't want to take him totally out of commission for 18 hours now that the tourney started. But if need be I will level him to 14.

Bambamstad
11-11-14, 01:03 PM
Mine won but there is such a HUGE random factor in these battles that I do recognize mine worked only because of luck.

I was actually thinking of leveling my griffin from 10 to 15 this afternoon, trying to plan ahead for the next tournament. Looks like I'm too late though. :( I don't want to take him totally out of commission for 18 hours now that the tourney started. But if need be I will level him to 14.

Still have no glacial griffin, but levelel iciclaw towards level 15 and have a seadrake almost in level 10. These water creatures must do it for me.

Btw, thanks for updating. I can not believe nature being neutral to earth.....would be totally unfair

my607
11-11-14, 01:09 PM
Huh, though luck the Pony beat my level 11 Griffin ):

My glacial griffin got beaten by pony too. Go figure

rbkj
11-11-14, 01:11 PM
Round 1 beat with level 15 frostfang water
Round 2 beat with level 12 glacial griffin water
Round 3 lost with level 15 ancient sloth nature, beat with level 15 vinotaur nature
Round 4 beat with level 13 twilight troll dark
Round 5 beat with level 15 ancient sloth nature
Round 6 beat with level 15 ancient sloth earth
Round 7 lost with level 12 gold lion fire, beat with level 12 glacial griffin water
Round 8 lost with level 15 ancient sloth earth, beat with level 12 gold lion fire
Round 9 beat with level 10 magmacore earth
Round 10 beat with level 15 ancient sloth earth
Round 11 beat with level 12 glacial griffin water
Round 12 lost with level 12 glacial griffin water, beat with level 15 frostfang water
Round 13 beat with level 15 vinotaur fire
Round 14 beat with level 15 ancient sloth earth
Round 15 beat with level 12 gold lion electric
Round 16 beat with level 12 gold lion fire
Round 17 beat with level 15 vinotaur fire
Round 18 beat with level 15 vinotaur fire
Round 19 lost with level 15 vinotaur fire, beat with level 12 glacial griffin water
Round 20 beat with level 15 vinotaur fire
Round 21 beat with level 12 gold lion electric
Round 22 lost with level 15 vinotaur fire, beat with level 12 twilight troll dark
Round 23 beat with level 12 gold lion electric
Round 24 beat with level 15 ancient sloth earth
Round 25 lost with level 15 skyger (too many times to count) lost with level 13 twilight troll dark 2 times!!! lost with chameneon. finally beat it with level 12 gold lion electric
Round 26 beat with level 12 gold lion electric
Round 27 lost with level 11 glacial griffin water, beat with rainguin earth
Round 28 beat with level 13 twilight troll dark
Round 29 lost with level 15 rainguin, lost with level 15 frostfang, lost with glacial griffin water, beat with level 12 glacial griffin water
Round 30 beat with level 15 rampage earth

Good luck everyone!!!

cocauina
11-11-14, 01:14 PM
I've just notice.. A2TUDE the date is wrong, do you already want December? ahah :p

A2TUDE
11-11-14, 01:16 PM
I've just notice.. A2TUDE the date is wrong, do you already want December? ahah :p


Omg please forgive me lol it's 7am Wednesday here in Australia I'm still sleepy

Lipand5kids
11-11-14, 01:20 PM
R1. Pyro Pony 1< Steamtrunk 11
R2. Armodillo<
R3. Rainguin<
R4. Werewolf<
R5.

dreamusman
11-11-14, 01:27 PM
Hi zen could it be possible to make a table for us for the tournament hope it not too much trouble

zenobia42
11-11-14, 01:29 PM
Hi zen could it be possible to make a table for us for the tournament hope it not too much trouble

Already on it - it is in post #3 through round 4. I'll keep updating as info rolls in. :)

cocauina
11-11-14, 01:30 PM
Omg please forgive me lol it's 7am Wednesday here in Australia I'm still sleepy

AHAHAH it's okay, I forgive you of course, being sleepy does this things :p

FigmentValley
11-11-14, 01:37 PM
Level 15 Glacial Griffin is soundly trounced by a little teeny Pyro Pony. Not a particularly auspicious beginning.....

my607
11-11-14, 01:40 PM
Level 15 Glacial Griffin is soundly trounced by a little teeny Pyro Pony. Not a particularly auspicious beginning.....

I beat the pony second time around with sloth earth attack first hit was critical

Hawksmoor
11-11-14, 01:48 PM
Is this a timed tournament?

FigmentValley
11-11-14, 01:51 PM
Is this a timed tournament?

Yup. Ends on Sunday.

Lesimony
11-11-14, 01:54 PM
Yes. 6 days.

Also a note to TL - Shouldn't the description of the Thanksgibbon say "Not available thru breeding"? It's in the market to purchase with gems, so some people might think they can breed one.

Hawksmoor
11-11-14, 01:58 PM
Yup. Ends on Sunday.

Yikes! Ok thanks!

Hawksmoor
11-11-14, 01:59 PM
Sorry, one more question...my iPad's at home so I can't check until after work. How many battle levels?

Bambamstad
11-11-14, 02:02 PM
Sorry, one more question...my iPad's at home so I can't check until after work. How many battle levels?

30 levels, like the other 6 day tournaments

Hawksmoor
11-11-14, 02:03 PM
30 levels, like the other 6 day tournaments

Thanks again!

A2TUDE
11-11-14, 02:09 PM
Has anyone's goal icon gone????

my607
11-11-14, 02:11 PM
No not mine

readysetgo888
11-11-14, 02:13 PM
I'm a little unhappy that this is another dark-fire super rare. They already had the nightmare tournament. The terrorier (though not super rare) was dark-fire. And there are two normal dark-fire super rares. Whereas there is only one dark-water super rare and one dark-earth unless you count the scarecrow which was removed. I would love to see another dark-water super rare. Or perhaps an electric super rare.

Hawksmoor
11-11-14, 02:15 PM
Kooky (or another mod), can we please sticky this thread? thanks :-)

A2TUDE
11-11-14, 02:16 PM
No not mine

Grrrr gr8 lol am I missing something in the goal thingy??

zenobia42
11-11-14, 02:21 PM
I'm a little unhappy that this is another dark-fire super rare. They already had the nightmare tournament. The terrorier (though not super rare) was dark-fire. And there are two normal dark-fire super rares. Whereas there is only one dark-water super rare and one dark-earth unless you count the scarecrow which was removed. I would love to see another dark-water super rare. Or perhaps an electric super rare.

I TOTALLY agree. I was really hoping for a new super rare that there is only 1 super-rare of that combo we could possibly have before. There are now *FOUR* dark-fire supers. And only *ONE* of many element combos. It's totally lame IMO to continue to go to the same element combo again and again and again.

Aernak
11-11-14, 02:30 PM
I will post 3 results for each round, because my 2 kids and I are all doing this tournament.

Rouns 1 - Opponent: Pyro Pony
a) won w Lv 10 Frostfang
b) won w Lv 15 Frostfang
c) After 6 fails w/ Frostfang, aquatter, fairy ferret and Rockodile, finally ****ed it w a lv 10 anc sloth (earth attack)

Round 2 - Opponent: Armadillo
a) won w Lv 10 glacial griffin
b) (i forgot)
c) won w Lv 8 Rockodile

Round 3 - Opponent: Rainguin
a) won w Lv 10 Aurora Pegasus
b) won w lv 10 koala cadabra (2 lightning crits) (lost 3x w lv 10 Frankenswine)
c) won w lev 7 ember boar (dark crit), (lost w level 4 Aurora Pegasus)

Round 4 - Opponent: Werewolf
a) won w Pegasus (dark critical)
b) won w Chromadile (dark crit)
c) won w Firefox (dark crit) (lost w ember bear)

Round 5 - Opponent: Rock Rhino
a) won w Pegasus (dark critical)
b) won w ancient sloth (earth crit) (lost w Frankenswine dark, lost w ancient sloth)
c) lost w Firefox dark

Round 6 - Opponent: Daredevil
a) won w lv 10 Terradactyl (earth crit)
b) won w lv 10 ancient sloth (earth crit)
c) won w lv 10 ancient sloth (earth crit)

Round 7 - Opponent: Jackalope
a) won w lv 10 hippogryph (water crit)
b) won w Iciclaw (water crit)
c) won w aquatter water crit

Round 8 - Opponent: Chameneon
a) won w lv 10 Terradactyl (electric crit)
b) won w lv 10 lightning leopard
c) won w lv 5 lightning leopard

Round 9 - Opponent: Koala Cadabra
a) won w lev 9 Magmacore
b) won w ancient sloth (earth crit)
c) won w ancient sloth (earth crit) (lost w lv 8 Volcamel)

Round 10 - Opponent: Iciclaw
a) won w lv 12 Aurora Pegasus (dark crit)
b) won w Skyger dark crit
c) won w lv 8 sea drake (dark crit)

Round 11 - Opponent: Solar Simian
a) won w lv 10 glacial griffin (water crit)
b) i forgot
c) won w aquatter water crit

Round 12 - Opponent: Rampage
a) won w glacial griffin (earth crit) (lost w glacial griffin water atts - all strongs)
b) won w Iciclaw water crit
c) won w Rockodile water crit

Round 13 - Opponent: Bansheep
a) finally won w lv 14 ancient sloth (earth crit) (lost twice w lv 9 Magmacore (3 strongs), lost with Ancient Sloth, lost with Aurora Pegasus)
b) won w frostfang
c) won w Jackalope fire, lost w ancient sloth (earth)

Round 14 - Opponent: Volcamel
a) won w lv 10 glacial griffin water crit
b) won w lv 15 Frostfang
c) won w lv 8 sea drake / water crit

Round 15 - Opponent: Arbour
a) won w hippogryph
b) won w lev 8 bansheep (lightning crit) (lost w fairy ferret)
c) won w lv 15 fairy ferret - 2 fire crits

Round 16 - Opponent: Terrorier
a) won w glacial griffin (earth crit)
b) won w Iciclaw (crit water)
c) won w sloth, lost previously w sloth, lost w Rockodile earth, lost w Rockodile water

Round 17 - Opponent: Spruce Moose
a) won w magmacore fire crit (lost w Onyx Ox)
b) won w Jackalope fire
c) won w Jackalope fire

Round 18 - Opponent: Eagle Beagle
a) won w Magmacore (fire crit)
b) won w lv 15 Frostfang (water crit)
c) won w Volcamel (fire crit)

Round 19 - Opponent: Nightmare
a) won w lv 15 anc sloth (2 earth crits)
b) won w Frostfang
c) won w lv 8 sea drake water crit

Round 20 - Opponent: twilight troll
a) won w lv 15 fairy ferret (fire crit) lost w onyx ox
b) won w lev 11 pyro pony
c) won w lv 15 fairy ferret (fire crit)

Round 21 - Opponent: Falconch
a) won w Terradactyl (lightning crit)
b) won w lv 10 ancient sloth earth crit
c) (i forgot. I think anc sloth earth crit)

Round 22 - opponent: emerald dragon
a) 1 hit **** with onyx ox (fire crit)
b) won w lv 15 Skyger (dark crit)
c) won w lv 15 ferret (fire crit) (lost w lv 7 ember bear - 3 str fire)

Round 23 - Opponent: hippogryph
a) won w ancient sloth (earth crit) (lost 3x with lv 10 Terradactyl)
b) i forgot
c) won w anc sloth earth

Round 24 - Opponent: gold lion
a) won w anc sloth earth crit
b) won w rampage earth crit
c) won w sloth

Round 25 - Opponent: unicorn
a) won w lev 10 onyx ox (crit fire) (lost like 12x prior w various animals)
b) lost with everything :(
c) lost with everything :(

Round 26 - Opponent: sea horse
a) won w lv 10 hippogryph (defense win and also the 4th water att was a crit)

Round 27 - Opponent: yak o lantern
a) won w lv 15 ancient sloth earth crit, lost twice w lv 10 glacial griffin, lost once w onyx ox (played him by mistake)

Round 28 - Opponent: Emerald Dragon
a) Won w Pegasus dark crit

Round 29 - Opponent: skeletal dragon
a) finally won w lv 15 sloth (earth crit) lost many many many x w/lv 10 glacial griffin, lv 12 Pegasus, lv 10 ocean owl, lv 12 Skyger, and lv 15 sloth

Round 30 - Opponent: Thanksgibbon
a) won w lv 10 glacial griffin (water crit) (lost 3x w lev 15 sloth)

my607
11-11-14, 02:33 PM
I TOTALLY agree. I was really hoping for a new super rare that there is only 1 super-rare of that combo we could possibly have before. There are now *FOUR* dark-fire supers. And only *ONE* of many element combos. It's totally lame IMO to continue to go to the same element combo again and again and again.

I hate having lots of dark animals. Couldn't they add some blue animals or green .

readysetgo888
11-11-14, 02:39 PM
I like dark animals but I do not ever need to see another dark-nature. At least not for quite a long time. And dark-fire now feels this way too because of this tournament. Oh well, I'll feel less bad if I don't get it.

Bambamstad
11-11-14, 02:54 PM
I like the dark animals too, but another super rare dark fire is to much.
Worse is that i did not succeed in breeding onyx ox or cosmic phoenix, and these two i like a lot...

Just realized i do not have a super rare water earth creature, so winning against the gibbon won't be an easy victory...

GreasedLightening
11-11-14, 02:55 PM
Grrrr gr8 lol am I missing something in the goal thingy??

My goals also disappeared a couple of days ago. 24hours later it was back.

sweetypies97
11-11-14, 02:59 PM
So in round 2 the baby armordillo beat my level 14 crystal unicorn. A taste of things to come?

seekerbears
11-11-14, 03:04 PM
Round one beat with my lvl 10 sea drake 2 critical hits in a row! Let the games begin

A2TUDE
11-11-14, 03:09 PM
My goals also disappeared a couple of days ago. 24hours later it was back.

Ooo lol ok ty hun

Lipand5kids
11-11-14, 03:10 PM
R1. Pyro Pony 1< Steamtrunk 11
R2. Armodillo< Rainguin 10
R3. Rainguin<
R4. Werewolf<
R5.

zenobia42
11-11-14, 03:13 PM
Round 3 Raiguin beaten by emerald ..... N
Round 4 Werewolf beatene by emerald ..... N
Round 5 Rhino beaten by emerald ..... N

Did those nature attacks, other than the critical hits, show the "strong attack" message? Or did they have no message, meaning neutral (not strong or weak) attack? We are trying to determine if nature is still strong vs. earth.

Buttercup0001
11-11-14, 03:16 PM
Yay a new tournament. But how hard is this one.....rnd 1 took me 3 tries....finally beat pyro pony with my lvl 12 frostfang. Dreading rnd 2 now lol :)

rbkj
11-11-14, 03:19 PM
Did those nature attacks, other than the critical hits, show the "strong attack" message? Or did they have no message, meaning neutral (not strong or weak) attack? We are trying to determine if nature is still strong vs. earth.

Ancient sloth nature had no message so neutral?

zenobia42
11-11-14, 03:21 PM
Ancient sloth nature had no message so neutral?

Correct - when there is no message, it's neutral.

Was that vs. rainguin?

Xylenia
11-11-14, 03:22 PM
I also used my Sloth against the Rainguin on both of my game instances and did not get the "strong attack" message on either (though I did crit on both). It did appear to be neutral.

Buttercup0001
11-11-14, 03:22 PM
Did those nature attacks, other than the critical hits, show the "strong attack" message? Or did they have no message, meaning neutral (not strong or weak) attack? We are trying to determine if nature is still strong vs. earth.

Im not getting any message saying strong weak or critical when using nature against earth in the battleground (thorilla). I was wondering if nature is as strong as it used to be or is there another element that has a more potent attack. Though I did try electric nature and that seemed a bit stronger in attack. Hope this helps :)

zenobia42
11-11-14, 03:26 PM
I also used my Sloth against the Rainguin on both of my game instances and did not get the "strong attack" message on either (though I did crit on both). It did appear to be neutral.

Okay, there definitely is a pattern here that nature attack vs. water-earth is no longer strong. It's now neutral. So the question is: does that mean nature is no longer strong to earth? Or does it mean it is still strong to earth but now also weak to water?

Because it used to always be that if your attack is strong vs. 1 element and weak vs. the other, they would calculate that as strong + weak = weak. We are thinking that they changed it now to be strong + weak = neutral.

So we need to see if nature attack is still strong vs. pure earth and vs. earth-other elements to determine if nature > earth now.

ETA:
Im not getting any message saying strong weak or critical when using nature against earth in the battleground (thorilla). I was wondering if nature is as strong as it used to be or is there another element that has a more potent attack. Though I did try electric nature and that seemed a bit stronger in attack. Hope this helps :)

Oh, dear. That is not good. It is sounding like, based on the posts in this thread and the thread started yesterday about the subject, that nature is not strong to ANYTHING now, and that therefore only gem is strong to earth. I hope that is proven incorrect.

Aernak
11-11-14, 03:30 PM
This tournament is SO HARD and im only 3 rounds in. UGH.

sweetypies97
11-11-14, 03:41 PM
So basically anyone without a unicorn shouldn't even bother trying. :(

deucedeuce22
11-11-14, 03:42 PM
sloth vs ranguin--- nature and earth both neutral

dreamusman
11-11-14, 03:45 PM
I used a nature attack for werewolf but it wasn't a strong attack or a weak attack what should I use

zenobia42
11-11-14, 03:45 PM
So basically anyone without a unicorn shouldn't even bother trying. :(

Let's keep our hopes up - we still have a whole tourney to go and while it will almost surely have a few more water-earth and earth-natures, don't forget that with neutral or even weak attacks, it is still always possible to land a critical hit. And critical hits are all that matters.

And we still haven't figured out what changed about this whole thing. We might find another way to get a strong attack on earth other than gem.

zenobia42
11-11-14, 03:48 PM
I used a nature attack for werewolf but it wasn't a strong attack or a weak attack what should I use

Try anything and everything until you take that sucker down! Remember, we have 6 days. It may be that those without a unicorn will take longer on average than those with to finish. But that doesn't mean you can't finish!

Aernak
11-11-14, 03:49 PM
My daughter has lost round 1 FIVE X now... What the heck is going on.

She has tried:

Lv 10 Frostfang
Lv 10 Aquatter (water att)
Lv 7 Rockodile (both atts)
Lv 15 Fairy Ferret
Lv 10 Frostfang

:-(

dreamusman
11-11-14, 03:51 PM
Try anything and everything until you take that sucker down! Remember, we have 6 days. It may be that those without a unicorn will take longer on average than those with to finish. But that doesn't mean you can't finish!

Thx I do have a unicorn but it's still at level 3 so I don't think I could win with that

my607
11-11-14, 03:55 PM
So basically anyone without a unicorn shouldn't even bother trying. :(

I don't have any gem animals at all. I win every battles and tourneys. Why say something like that to discourage other gem less players? I'm just saying but not every battle are easy though.

my607
11-11-14, 03:56 PM
My daughter has lost round 1 FIVE X now... What the heck is going on.

She has tried:

Lv 10 Frostfang
Lv 10 Aquatter (water att)
Lv 7 Rockodile (both atts)
Lv 15 Fairy Ferret
Lv 10 Frostfang

:-(

I beat pony with sloth earth attack

Aernak
11-11-14, 03:59 PM
I beat pony with sloth earth attack

Thanks - She can try her Lv 10 sloth next.

My son and i beat it no problem with our frostfangs.

I am so annoyed :( its a level 1 pony for heavens sake.

readysetgo888
11-11-14, 03:59 PM
I don't have any gem animals at all. I win every battles and tourneys. Why say something like that to discourage other gem less players? I'm just saying but not every battle are easy though.

It's because they only JUST changed it so Nature is no longer strong against Earth... so the way that you won previous battles may not work now :( However, even if the odds are less it doesn't mean impossible.

A2TUDE
11-11-14, 04:04 PM
It's because they only JUST changed it so Nature is no longer strong against Earth... so the way that you won previous battles may not work now :( However, even if the odds are less it doesn't mean impossible.

I've had no problem beaten earth with nature BUT the animals I'm using are above level 10

sunflaash
11-11-14, 04:04 PM
So far I had critical hits using nature against water-earth and earth-nature

Round 1 Pyro beaten by L15 Rock Rhino
Round 2 Armadillo beaten by L12 Rainguin water
Round 3 Rainguin beaten by L11 Twilight Troll nature
Round 4 Werewolf beaten by L10 Hydro Yack nature
Round 5 L10 Ocean Owl
Round 6 L11 Magmacore
Round 7 L11 Magmacore fire
Round 8 L10 Elephantom electric
Round 9 L11 Magmacore earth
Round 10 L14 Ancient Sloth
Round 11 L10 Steamtrunk water
Round 12 L12 Rainguin water
Round 13 L11 Magmacore
Round 14 L10 Steamtrunk
Round 15 L7 Falconch electric
Round 16 L10 Steamtrunk fire

dreamusman
11-11-14, 04:06 PM
Yes used to my crystal unicorn to beat werewolf

zenobia42
11-11-14, 04:06 PM
I used a nature attack for werewolf but it wasn't a strong attack or a weak attack what should I use

I took a look at my spreadsheet on battles that I am trying to figure out how to re-do with nature not strong to earth. I think your best bet if you don't have a unicorn is to try dark-water, dark-nature, or water-nature animals, any attack they have. They should be neutral, not strong, but that's better than having a weak element in there. Good luck and please post what you find that works!

ETA: the second change that seems to have occurred is that a strong + weak = neutral now instead of strong + weak = weak which is what it used to be. So there are a few more hybrids that will land neutral attacks on the werewolf and therefore have a better chance than one that is weak. These are: dark-fire, water-fire (steam trunk), and nature-fire. Again, use either element in the animal as your attack element.

Uschti
11-11-14, 04:07 PM
#4 Werewolf - beaten by Rampage (15) - fire

readysetgo888
11-11-14, 04:10 PM
I've had no problem beaten earth with nature BUT the animals I'm using are above level 10

Yeah it still shouldn't be a problem in the early rounds but it may be in the later rounds when the levels/rarity of opponents are much higher.

Buttercup0001
11-11-14, 04:13 PM
Rnd 2 used my lvl 11 aquatter to beat armordillo.....2 water attacks were strong 3rd hit with earth was critical.....hmmm maybe earth is still strong against nature ....is so confused now i need a cup of coffee :)

JeannesThinkin
11-11-14, 04:14 PM
Okay, there definitely is a pattern here that nature attack vs. water-earth is no longer strong. It's now neutral. So the question is: does that mean nature is no longer strong to earth? Or does it mean it is still strong to earth but now also weak to water?

Because it used to always be that if your attack is strong vs. 1 element and weak vs. the other, they would calculate that as strong + weak = weak. We are thinking that they changed it now to be strong + weak = neutral.

So we need to see if nature attack is still strong vs. pure earth and vs. earth-other elements to determine if nature > earth now.

I thought that Strong + Weak was always Neutral? Neutral+Weak is Weak, and Neutral + Strong is Strong?

If they changed the whole nature Earth thing I will be very pissed off.

If I remember correctly, Trees can split Rock, which is the Earth type's symbol. Lichen is part of nature, and they dissolve the earth type's symbol.

I should pay more attention to battles...

A2TUDE
11-11-14, 04:15 PM
I took a look at my spreadsheet on battles that I am trying to figure out how to re-do with nature not strong to earth. I think your best bet if you don't have a unicorn is to try dark-water, dark-nature, or water-nature animals, any attack they have. They should be neutral, not strong, but that's better than having a weak element in there. Good luck and please post what you find that works!

ETA: the second change that seems to have occurred is that a strong + weak = neutral now instead of strong + weak = weak. So there are a few more hybrids that will land neutral attacks on the werewolf and therefore have a better chance than one that is weak. These are: dark-fire, water-fire (steam trunk), and nature-fire. Again, use either element in the animal as your attack element.

Hun I'm using spreed sheet I posted in post #1 it's working for me

dreamusman
11-11-14, 04:16 PM
Round 1 Pryo beaten by L10 Glacial Griffin W
Round 2 Armadillo beaten by L10 Glacial Griffin W
Round 3 Rainguin beaten by L11 Vinotaur N
Round 4 Werewolf beaten by L3 Crystal Unicorn C
Round 5 Rock Rhino beaten by L3 Crystal Unicorn C
Round 6 Daredevil beaten by L10 Magmacore F
Round 7 Jackapole beaten by L10 Magmacore F
Round 8 Chameneon beaten by L10 Gold lion E
Round 9 Koala Cadabra beaten by L10 Magmacore F
Round 10 Iciclaw beaten by L3 Crystal Unicorn C
Round 11 Solar Simian beaten by L3 Crystal Unicorn C
Round 12 Rampage beaten by L10 Glacial Griffin W

zenobia42
11-11-14, 04:19 PM
Hun I'm using spreed sheet I posted in post #1 it's working for me

Are you getting the "strong attack" message when you use nature attack vs. water-earth and earth-nature? Because other people are not. If you are getting strong still, maybe it's just that it is still strong only it is just not giving everyone the strong message?????

zenobia42
11-11-14, 04:19 PM
Round 1 Pryo beaten by L10 Glacial Griffin W
Round 2 Armadillo beaten by L10 Glacial Griffin W
Round 3 Rainguin beaten by L10 Vinotaur N
Round 4 Werewolf beaten by L3 Crystal Unicorn C

Go, baby unicorn, go! That's great it worked for you. :)

CoodieBug
11-11-14, 04:27 PM
Round 1 iciclaw 15 beat pyro pony, water attack
Round 2 iciclaw 15 lost to amordillo water attack, unicorn 10 lost Gem attack, iciclaw lost again water attack, finally.....
Round 2 sloth 15 beat amardillo, earth attack, third was critical. Cost 8 gems



Wtf is going on here........
I lost round 1 (pyro) 2x's with 15 frostfang & 15 rhino!! No logic

dreamusman
11-11-14, 04:29 PM
[QUOTE=zenobia42;999796]Go, baby unicorn, go! That's great it worked for you. :)[/QUOTE

Lol thanks what round are you one you must be ahead as you always are

Lipand5kids
11-11-14, 04:30 PM
Rainguin beaten my Unicorn, so just in case Gem loses is there another?

dreamusman
11-11-14, 04:30 PM
Go, baby unicorn, go! That's great it worked for you. :)

Lol thanks what round are you one you must be ahead like you always are

A2TUDE
11-11-14, 04:30 PM
Are you getting the "strong attack" message when you use nature attack vs. water-earth and earth-nature? Because other people are not. If you are getting strong still, maybe it's just that it is still strong only it is just not giving everyone the strong message?????

Yes like always I'm reading other posts and im baffled!

Ok I'm up to level 16 haven't a clue what is yet but it'll have to wait I'm of to work good luck hun I'll check n at 6pm

zenobia42
11-11-14, 04:30 PM
Go, baby unicorn, go! That's great it worked for you. :)[/QUOTE

Lol thanks what round are you one you must be ahead as you always are

I have only completed 3 rounds so far, actually!

DragonMoon006
11-11-14, 04:31 PM
I beat Rainquin with Panda on both a/cs....and most of my battles are won with single elements animals.

To me the Unicorn is only good against another Gem animal even though I have one but its just an 'ATM' machine in my isle.

Previously I have won STeamtrunk tournament with just a handful of basic animals plus Vinotaur and ASloth and WITHOUT lightning.

So please ....dont try to discourage anyone from trying. And for those who already had TOO MANY Dark-Fire SuperRares..you have the option NOT to participate in this particular tournament. Think about others who are still unable to breed one...

Lipand5kids
11-11-14, 04:32 PM
Round 1 Pryo beaten by L10 Glacial Griffin W
Round 2 Armadillo beaten by L10 Glacial Griffin W
Round 3 Rainguin beaten by L10 Vinotaur N
Round 4 Werewolf beaten by L3 Crystal Unicorn C

Ty for posting and I will try Vinotaur with N, my Unicorn lost to Rainguin.

FigmentValley
11-11-14, 04:32 PM
So, a level 15 unicorn was soundly beaten by a little Rainquin - round 3. It is taking me three tries per round! This is ridiculous.

zenobia42
11-11-14, 04:33 PM
Yes like always I'm reading other posts and im baffled!

This whole thing just keep getting weirder and weirder!

So I'll say again, maybe nature attacks are still strong to earth but there is a bug causing it not to display the "strong attack" message for most people?

Aye - this is so annoying of TL to mess with us like this!

rbkj
11-11-14, 04:33 PM
Yes it was against rainguin. I beat it though with vinotaur nature attack. First two attacks neutral last attack was critical

sweetypies97
11-11-14, 04:34 PM
I don't have any gem animals at all. I win every battles and tourneys. Why say something like that to discourage other gem less players? I'm just saying but not every battle are easy though.

My son has gem animals - but I don't. I play on his iPad when he's busy (like this morning, when a level 1 armadillo beat a level 14 crystal unicorn), so I'm not saying it to discourage players - I'm saying it because it's the truth. If it's discouraging blame the game, not me.

I won all of the previous tournaments without any gem animals when the battlefield was more balanced. It has now changed. What's the point in even trying unless you have a gem animal?

This is yet another way of them trying to make people spend $$$.

Aernak
11-11-14, 04:36 PM
I lost round 1 (pyro) 2x's with 15 frostfang & 15 rhino!! No logic

R1 is the pits! :(

readysetgo888
11-11-14, 04:38 PM
I beat Rainquin with Panda on both a/cs....and most of my battles are won with single elements animals.

To me the Unicorn is only good against another Gem animal even though I have one but its just an 'ATM' machine in my isle.

Previously I have won STeamtrunk tournament with just a handful of basic animals plus Vinotaur and ASloth and WITHOUT lightning.

So please ....dont try to discourage anyone from trying. And for those who already had TOO MANY Dark-Fire SuperRares..you have the option NOT to participate in this particular tournament. Think about others who are still unable to breed one...

Gem is definitely strong against Earth and it being an ultra rare makes it even better than a super rare that is also strong against Earth. So you should definitely consider using it in battles.

The reason we are concerned is because it seems like this is a change they JUST made to Nature being strong over Earth. In other words, this was not a problem in any other tournament but may be now.

I definitely didn't encourage anyone not to play the tournament... If Nature really isn't strong to Earth anymore, that would mean that only players with a Gem animal would have a strong attack against certain Earth animals. Not that you can't still win, just that it may take longer now.

As for dark-fire super rares... There are already two that can be bred (as opposed to both dark-water and dark-earth where there is only one each, along with several other combos where there is only one breedable super rare), and there was already a tournament with a dark-fire as a prize, so it is a legitimate complaint. I wish they had chosen a combo that the most players were statistically least likely to have a super rare of, and dark-fire isn't one.

Sylvrthrne
11-11-14, 04:46 PM
Ok, against earth opponents I'm not seeing my nature hits register as weak/ strong or critical. However, my dark attacks with twilight troll have registered critical hits against rainguin and rock rhino

my607
11-11-14, 04:50 PM
Just beat the werewolf with a troll dark attack first hit critical

dreamusman
11-11-14, 04:51 PM
Just beat the werewolf with a troll dark attack first hit critical

Congrats

EviBrooklyn
11-11-14, 04:54 PM
So in round 2 the baby armordillo beat my level 14 crystal unicorn. A taste of things to come?

I beat mine with sea drake water attack. 1st one critical, 2nd strong

EviBrooklyn
11-11-14, 04:54 PM
Just beat the werewolf with a troll dark attack first hit critical

Did you use nature or dark attack?

Never mind, lol you said dark duhh

my607
11-11-14, 04:57 PM
Congrats

Thanks

Jennerwein1
11-11-14, 04:58 PM
I beat lvl 3 Rainquin with lvl 11 Troll, Critical x2

Monkeh2369
11-11-14, 04:59 PM
Ok, against earth opponents I'm not seeing my nature hits register as weak/ strong or critical. However, my dark attacks with twilight troll have registered critical hits against rainguin and rock rhino

I beat the Rainguin on lvl3 with a Gargolem. Used dark first and got a critical hit.

Buttercup0001
11-11-14, 05:07 PM
Dark nature (attacking with my pegasus) against earth. Atm is winning. So im thinking any animal that are rare or super rares with the dark & nature elements just might be the solutuon to winning against earth. Hope that this helps :)

my607
11-11-14, 05:12 PM
Dark nature (attacking with my pegasus) against earth. Atm is winning. So im thinking any animal that are rare or super rares with the dark & nature elements just might be the solutuon to winning against earth. Hope that this helps :)

Yes, that sounds right so my troll has been doing a great job.

Lipand5kids
11-11-14, 05:28 PM
R1. Pyro Pony 1< Steamtrunk 11
R2. Armodillo< Rainguin 10
R3. Rainguin< Vinotaur 11
R4. Werewolf<
R5.

SANDSCApe
11-11-14, 05:30 PM
If a responder had one weakness and one strength against a challenger, it was ALWAYS rated neutral; not weak.

1 + 1 = 2 (strong & strong): VERY STRONG
1 + 0 = 1(strong & neutral): STRONG
-1 + 1 = 0 (weak & strong): NEUTRAL
-1 + 0 = -1 (weak & neutral): WEAK
-1 + -1 = -2 (weak & weak): VERY WEAK

That basic calculation of negative or positive ones and zeros is how the system comes up with the element ratings. It has NEVER arbitrarily decided that an individual element score of zero was "weak" (unless maybe it was one of those occasional mis-ratings.) I don't know where the weak-plus-strong-equals-weak notion came from, but it doesn't serve us to have it perpetuated.

The tutorial was never meant to be anything but rudimentary, so it errs occasionally. It also doesn't bother to indicate whether an element is very strong or very weak. This is why it's not enough to rely on the tutorial ratings. One strong-rated element is not necessarily equal in strength to another.

I wish everyone the best of luck in this tournament. I can already see that this thread will be riddled with conjecture and all kinds of theories about what, if any major power shifts have been implemented. Just do your best and watch out for changes. Problems are not as monumental as they may be projected. Most of us will still win this challenge.

EviBrooklyn
11-11-14, 05:33 PM
Level 3 ( rainguin water-earth) I won with pegasus, nature attack 1st critical

dumbpluff
11-11-14, 05:35 PM
i think i'll just make a post here and edit it up time and again to make a list of how i won rounds. lord knows i won't remember anything a day after i play it. this tournament is much harder than the last one with this stupid earth problem, oh my lord.

round 1: lv.1 pyro pony - defeated with lv.15 frostfang
round 2: lv.1 armordillo - defeated with lv.10 glacial griffin (waterx2)
round 3: lv.1 rainguin - defeated with lv.15 ancient sloth (rock, one-hit crit)
round 4: lv.2 werewolf - defeated with lv.10 aurora pegasus (darkx2, both crits)
round 5: lv.2 rock rhino - defeated with lv.15 ancient sloth (rock, got a lucky crit)
round 6: lv.3 daredevil - defeated with lv.15 ancient sloth (rock, two crits)
round 7: lv.4 jackalope - defeated with lv.15 pyro pony
round 8: lv.5 chameneon - defeated with lv.10 hippogryph (electricx3)
round 9: lv.6 koala cadabra - defeated with lv.12 nightmare
round 10: lv.7 iciclaw - defeated with lv.15 ancient sloth (naturex2)
round 11: lv.8 solar simian - defeated with lv.12 nightmare (firex3, first hit a crit)
round 12: lv.9 rampage - defeated with lv.10 glacial griffin (waterx2)
round 13: lv.10 bansheep - defeated with lv.10 magmacore (firex3)
round 14: lv.10 volcamel -defeated with lv.10 glacial griffin (waterx2)
round 15: lv.12 arboar - defeated with lv.10 hippogryph (electricx2)
round 16: lv.10 terrorier - defeated with lv.10 glacial griffin (water, one crit)
round 17: lv.10 spruce moose - defeated with lv.13 nightmare (firex2)
round 18: lv.12 eagle beagle - defeated with lv.13 nightmare (firex2)
round 19: lv.12 nightmare - defeated with lv.10 glacial griffin (earth, one-hit crit)
round 20: lv.15 twilight troll - defeated with lv.13 nightmare (firex3)
round 21: lv.12 falconch - defeated with lv.15 ancient sloth (earthx3)
round 22: lv.14 emerald dragon - defeated with lv.13 nightmare (firex3)
round 23: lv.15 hippogryph - defeated with lv.15 ancient sloth (earthx2)
round 24: lv.15 gold lion - defeated with lv.15 ancient sloth (earthx3)
round 25: lv.18 crystal unicorn - defeated with lv.13 nightmare (darkx3)
round 26: lv.16 sea horse - defeated with lv.15 lightning leopard (electricx3)
round 27: lv.17 yak-o-lantern - defeated with lv.10 glacial griffin (water, rock, water)
round 28: lv.18 emerald dragon - defeated with lv.14 nightmare (dark, firex2)
round 29: lv.19 skeletal dragon - defeated with lv.10 glacial griffin (waterx3)
round 30: lv.20 thanksgibbon - defeated with lv.15 ancient sloth (rockx3)

Galadraal
11-11-14, 05:37 PM
Round
Opponent
Strong Attack(s)
Best Bets to Beat it


1
Pyro Pony (fire)
water, earth
Water-earth is best. Electric-earth, electric-water, earth-fire, water-fire good.


2
Armordillo (earth-fire)
gem, water, earth
Water-earth is best. Gem also good.


3
Rainguin (water-earth)
gem
ONLY GEM is a always a strong attack now against water-earth.
It is possible that dark is also now strong vs. earth. If you don't have gem, try your best dark animal with no fire.
Everything but gem (strong) and fire (weak) appears to be neutral now.


4
Werewolf (earth-nature)
gem
It sounds like nature may no longer be strong to earth-nature now as well. :(
Gem is best. If you don't have gem, try dark-water or dark-nature.


5
Rock Rhino (earth)
gem. (nature???)
Gem(-nature) is best. Your best nature with no fire or electric also good.


6
Daredevil (electric-fire)
earth x2
Earth-fire, earth-electric best. Gem good.


7
Jackalope (nature-fire)
fire, water, gem
Gem is best. Electric-fire, electric-water good.


8
Chameneon (dark-water)
electric
Your best electric with no fire.


9
Koala Cadabra (electric-dark)
fire, earth
Earth-fire is best. (Fire or earth) with (nature, dark or electric) good.


10
Iciclaw (water-earth)
gem, nature???
Gem(-nature) is best. Dark-nature, water-nature, earth-nature good.


11
Solar Simian (nature-fire)
fire, water, gem
Gem, electric-fire, electric-water good.


12
Rampage (earth-fire)
earth, water, gem.
Water-earth best. Gem good.


13
Bansheep (electric-dark)
fire, earth
Earth-fire is best. (Fire or earth) with (nature, dark or electric) good.


14
Volcamel (earth-fire)
earth, water, gem.
Water-earth best. Gem good.


15
Arboar (water-nature)
electric, gem
Gem is best. Electric with nature, water or dark good.


16
Terrorier (dark-fire)
fire, earth, water
Earth-fire and earth-water best. Electric with fire, earth or water good.



The animals I used to beat each round:

Glacial Griffin 10 (water attack) beat Pyro Pony.
Crystal Unicorn 12 (gem attack) beat Armordillo.
Crystal Unicorn 12 (gem attack) beat Rainguin.
Crystal Unicorn 12 (gem attack) beat Werewolf.



Thank you so much for working up this chart :-) I find them really helpful

xxxe
11-11-14, 05:38 PM
I beat level 4 Werewolf with my Vinotaur. First hit with fire must have been neutral and my second hit with Nature was a critical... Not sure if that helps.

JeannesThinkin
11-11-14, 05:41 PM
If anyone ever saw a weak rating when a responder had both weak and strong elements, it's because it had MORE weaknesses than strengths.


I don't get it?? There are only dual types, and you use a type that is weak to one but strong to the other, how can you have more weaknesses than strengths without a glitch?

kbli7355
11-11-14, 05:45 PM
I have a question: With two different creatures with the same elements, one is super rare and one is common. When they are on the same level, does the super rare one deal more damage than the common one? I hope not cuz the super rares eat so many food than the commons.

EviBrooklyn
11-11-14, 05:50 PM
My daughter has lost round 1 FIVE X now... What the heck is going on.

She has tried:

Lv 10 Frostfang
Lv 10 Aquatter (water att)
Lv 7 Rockodile (both atts)
Lv 15 Fairy Ferret
Lv 10 Frostfang

:-(

Uninstall and reinstall the game on her iOS/ ipad

zenobia42
11-11-14, 05:50 PM
I have a question: With two different creatures with the same elements, one is super rare and one is common. When they are on the same level, does the super rare one deal more damage than the common one? I hope not cuz the super rares eat so many food than the commons.

It seems to work this way:
The only way to win an arena battle is by getting at least 1 critical hit.
The more rare your animal, the more likely you are to get a critical hit.
Also, the higher the level of your animal, the more likely you are to get a critical hit.
And finally, if you attack with an element that can land a "strong attack", the more likely you are to get a crit.
We don't know for sure which of those 3 factors is more important than the others, if any. But it is a good idea to try to get high-level super rares because they have more of those factors going for them than commons.

It is typically pretty difficult to beat an animal that is more rare than your animal.

zenobia42
11-11-14, 05:56 PM
Thank you so much for working up this chart :-) I find them really helpful

Glad to hear it! Keep checking on it because I am updating it with new info on who the opponents are, and also adjusting it as we Draw more accurate conclusions about this "nature maybe no longer strong vs. earth" mystery.

SANDSCApe
11-11-14, 06:07 PM
I don't get it?? There are only dual types, and you use a type that is weak to one but strong to the other, how can you have more weaknesses than strengths without a glitch?

A responder CAN have more weaknesses than strengths, precisely because there are dual types and certain elements have more than one strength or more than one weakness. A responder can have its first element weak against both the elements of the challenger while its second element is strong against one of the challenger's elements. The net element bonus will then be -1 and it will be weak inspite of having a strong element.

As far as rating the individual elements, you would be correct. I have clarified my original statement.

readysetgo888
11-11-14, 06:36 PM
Lost to the werewolf with aurora pegasis. Not cool... I may try the twilight troll next. All attacks were neutral. On the bright side, the baby werewolf has a super cute attack.

Lipand5kids
11-11-14, 06:37 PM
R1. Pyro Pony 1< Steamtrunk 11
R2. Armodillo< Rainguin 10
R3. Rainguin< Vinotaur 11
R4. Werewolf< Aurora Pegysus 10 Darkness critical
R5.

zenobia42
11-11-14, 06:43 PM
Lost to the werewolf with aurora pegasis. Not cool... I may try the twilight troll next. All attacks were neutral. On the bright side, the baby werewolf has a super cute attack.
He is adorable attacking isn't he. You almost don't want to beat him. Except, yeah, you do want to beat him. Maybe he and the other cute babies in the early rounds use their sweet looks to try to beat us Lol.

roguebee
11-11-14, 07:01 PM
I beat level 4 Werewolf with my Vinotaur. First hit with fire must have been neutral and my second hit with Nature was a critical... Not sure if that helps.

My level 15 Vinotaur took out the werewolf, but it was the other way around, nature was a neutral hit while fire was a critical hit.

sweetypies97
11-11-14, 07:17 PM
My son's level 10 emerald dragon just lost against a level 2 rock rhino :/

Melis2a84
11-11-14, 07:18 PM
Round 17 spruse mouse beaten by daredevil
Round 18 eagle beagle beaten by daredevil
Round 19 nightmare beaten by iciclaw
Round 20 twilight troll beaten by daredevil
Round 21 falconach beaten by shock fox
Round 22 emerald dragon beaten by nightmare
Round 23 hippogryph beaten by terradactyl
Round 24 Gold lion beaten by terradactyl
Round 25 crystal unicorn beaten by zapra
Round 26 sea horse beaten by thunderhawk
Round 27 yak o latern beaten by iciclaw
Round 28 emerald dragon beaten by elephantom
Round 29 skeletal dragon beaten by rainguin
Round 30 thanksgibbons beaten by frostfang

Here is the egg

16658

Buttercup0001
11-11-14, 07:22 PM
My son's level 10 emerald dragon just lostagainst a level 2 rock rhino :/

Try an animal with dark nature elements the rarer the better attack. Hope this helps your son

Lipand5kids
11-11-14, 07:32 PM
R1. Pyro Pony 1< Steamtrunk 11 F
R2. Armodillo< Rainguin 10
R3. Rainguin< Vinotaur 11
R4. Werewolf< Aurora Pegysus D
R5. Rock Rhino< Grassquatch 11 N
R6. Daredevil<
R7. Jackalope<
R8. Chameneon<
R9. Kola Cadbra<
R10. Iciclaw<

Lipand5kids
11-11-14, 07:34 PM
My son's level 10 emerald dragon just lost against a level 2 rock rhino :/

I just used Grassquatch and used Nature, good luck. Some of these babies can kick serious butt, lol.

my607
11-11-14, 07:52 PM
That's mess up that the Emerald can't beat rhino.

zenobia42
11-11-14, 08:02 PM
Awwww, the baby daredevil's attack is so cute, too. Like a kitten batting at you with his wittle paws.

I still kicked his little bootie, but I enjoyed watching him try to take down my terradactyl.

zenobia42
11-11-14, 08:06 PM
My son's level 10 emerald dragon just lost against a level 2 rock rhino :/

Wow, the luck factor in these things is just SO disproportionately big compared to the s**** (picking the best animals) factor. I hope that emerald gets revenge the next round.

Phaedrakiki
11-11-14, 08:19 PM
Thanks to everyone for all of your posts--so helpful! They helped me win the Arboar tourney (my first.) And then again, with the Steamtrunk. I don't have any gem animals, nor a Glacial Griffin (my Iciclaw lvl 11 worked last time.) So with the changes, I'm very worried I won't make it this time! (Still no stinkin' unicorn, lol!)

Got a really late start, too--it was a bad day to forget to check in! ;)

So far:
R1. Pony < Iciclaw 11
R2. Armordillo < Iciclaw 11 (losses: Iciclaw 2x)
R3. Rainguin < Aurora Pegasus 10 (N attack=neutr.)
R4. Werewolf < Aurora Pegasus 10
R5. Rock Rhino < Ocean Owl 11
R6. Daredevil < Terradactyl 12 (loss: Magmacore 12)
R7. Jackalope < Gold Lion 10
R8. Chameneon < Terradactyl 12
R9. Koala Cadabra < Magmacore 12
R10. Iciclaw < Ancient Sloth 11

R11. Solar Simian < Gold Lion 10-F (2nd attempt)
R12. Rampage < Iciclaw 11-W (losses: Steamtrunk 9-W,

Iciclaw-W)
R13. Bansheep < Magmacore 12-F (2 crit's)
R14. Volcamel < Iciclaw 11-W
R15. Arboar < Zapra 11-Elec.
R16. Terrorier < Magmacore 12-E (2nd attempt)
R17. Spruce Moose < Vinotaur 13-F
R18. Eagle Beagle < Vinotaur 13-F
R19. Nightmare < Magmacore 12-F
R20. Twilight Troll < Vinotaur 13-F (1 crit KO)

R21. Falconch < Terradactyl 12-Elec.
R22. Emerald Dragon < Cosmic Phoenix 11-F (3rd

attempt)
R23. Hippogryph < Terradactyl 12-ElEaEL (2nd attempt)
R24. Gold Lion < Terradactyl 12-E (loss: Magmacore 12)

~Deja Vu, R6 lol!
R25. Crystal Unicorn < Zapra 11-D, 1 crit KO! (loss:

Cosmic Phoenix 11-D)
R26. Sea Horse < Zapra 11-E (4th attempt)
R27. Yak-O-Lantern < Iciclaw 11-Ws.Es.Wcrit
R28. Emerald Dragon
R29. Skeletal Dragon
R30. Thanksgibbon

Good luck, everyone! :D
Edit:
Updated battle info, pg. 45

TeabytheSea3
11-11-14, 08:21 PM
My son's level 10 emerald dragon just lost against a level 2 rock rhino :/

How can something like this even happen? I would bet if you were fighting a level 10 emerald dragon using a level 2 rock rhino, you'd lose. Lol. When you are battling those low-level creatures with the correct element, it should be an almost automatic win, otherwise, label them as higher level opponents.

I've just gotten started with the tournament, so all of your feedback is so helpful. Thank you everyone. Good luck everyone!!

hugpete
11-11-14, 08:34 PM
R4 werewolf lost to Hydro Yak with 3 nature attacks, but no "strong" messages. Just neutral for 2, then a crit. :/

Lipand5kids
11-11-14, 08:34 PM
R1. Pyro Pony 1< Steamtrunk 11 F
R2. Armodillo< Rainguin 10
R3. Rainguin< Vinotaur 11
R4. Werewolf< Aurora Pegysus D
R5. Rock Rhino< Grassquatch 11 N
R6. Daredevil< Ancient Sloth 11 E one hit, lol.
R7. Jackalope<
R8. Chameneon<
R9. Kola Cadbra<
R10. Iciclaw<

EviBrooklyn
11-11-14, 08:35 PM
My emerald and unicorn lost to werewolf
I won that battle with frankieswine nature attack

intrinsicallyknotted
11-11-14, 08:40 PM
Ever since the first tournament I have been working very hard to build up my stable of high-level super-rares. Every tournament for me has come down to about ten tries on each of the last few rounds (though I have been lucky enough to win at the last minute). I finally got my unicorn all fed up (hah!) and popped him out of the evolution flower just in time for today. I was feeling confident going in, but as always once I get started the stress kicks in. I'll be lucky to finish round 5 tonight, which means I will be only just on track for 30 rounds in 6 days, disregarding the fact that the rounds will get harder! Ooh, the nail-biting sets in…

I must say while I agree with the desire for a different dark hybrid (rather than our third battle-caught dark-fire), I am a sucker for a good pun. These last few limited and Halloween animals have definitely delivered, and I was giggling when I first saw the Thanksgibbon! I really want to win it!

my607
11-11-14, 08:52 PM
My lvl 11 hippogryph got beaten by chameneon.

Aernak
11-11-14, 08:57 PM
Uninstall and reinstall the game on her iOS/ ipad

She finally beat the dumb pony w her sloth. Took 6 tries total to advance to R2... Sigh.

TokiChunsa
11-11-14, 09:10 PM
If only gem works for certain creatures, the that's unfair for people who don't have the unicorn yet. It's basically saying that ppl who have the gem creature can win the new creature and the other players are 'oh well'.

Aernak
11-11-14, 09:31 PM
If only gem works for certain creatures, the that's unfair for people who don't have the unicorn yet. It's basically saying that ppl who have the gem creature can win the new creature and the other players are 'oh well'.

Well, any animal can win. Some just have a higher chance for crits.

I dont have a unicorn yet and I have made it to Round 13 so far...

Lipand5kids
11-11-14, 09:33 PM
R1. Pyro Pony 1< Steamtrunk 11 F
R2. Armodillo< Rainguin 10
R3. Rainguin< Vinotaur 11
R4. Werewolf< Aurora Pegysus D
R5. Rock Rhino< Grassquatch 11 N
R6. Daredevil< Ancient Sloth 11 E one hit, lol.
R7. Jackalope< Fire Glider 13 E F
R8. Chameneon<
R9. Kola Cadbra<
R10. Iciclaw<

TokiChunsa
11-11-14, 10:29 PM
Well, any animal can win. Some just have a higher chance for crits.

I dont have a unicorn yet and I have made it to Round 13 so far...

True. I think I'm giving up on chasing the unicorn thou. They keep running from me.

Lipand5kids
11-11-14, 10:54 PM
R1. Pyro Pony 1< Steamtrunk 11 F
R2. Armodillo< Rainguin 10
R3. Rainguin< Vinotaur 11
R4. Werewolf< Aurora Pegysus D
R5. Rock Rhino< Grassquatch 11 N
R6. Daredevil< Ancient Sloth 11 E one hit, lol.
R7. Jackalope< Fire Glider 13 E F
R8. Chameneon< Thunder Mammoth 10 El Ea El
R9. Kola Cadbra<
R10. Iciclaw<

TokiChunsa
11-11-14, 11:18 PM
When the opportunity in this arena tournament arises to use nature attack on earth, can everyone please post whether their nature attack is still strong vs. earth? Some folks in the battlegrounds were not getting "strong attack" messages with nature vs. pure earth, even though we should unless they changed the formulas. So confirmation would be much appreciated. Also if anyone gets an unexpected strong, weak or neutral on any animal, please post that. If they did suddenly change nature to no longer be strong to earth, we want to be sure if that is the only thing they changed or not. Thanks. :)

ETA: The relationships between the elements in the previous arena tournament were:
http://i1307.photobucket.com/albums/s586/zenobia42/FFS-strengths-take4_zpsa4684586.jpg
where an element being on top of another means it is strong to it.

I use pandafodil against rhino, three attacks, one critical, two unknown.

A2TUDE
11-12-14, 02:40 AM
Ok I up to level 20 and it's getting really hard!!!!

ciarjen
11-12-14, 03:14 AM
New to battling in these tournaments, thanks for all the posts which help as it is all very confusing, lol.


Werewolf beaten by Onyx Ox (dark-fire) after Vinatour lost

judyandthecat
11-12-14, 03:19 AM
I have no gem animals :(
Round 3 Werewolf L13 beat rainguin
Round 4 Nightmare L15 beat werewolf, dark attack

A2TUDE
11-12-14, 03:22 AM
New to battling in these tournaments, thanks for all the posts which help as it is all very confusing, lol.


Werewolf beaten by Onyx Ox (dark-fire) after Vinatour lost

I've posted a battle element table I use the strongest elements I have it helps if ur animals are a high level I ho it helps

A2TUDE
11-12-14, 03:24 AM
I have no gem animals :(
Round 3 Werewolf L13 beat rainguin
Round 4 Nightmare L15 beat werewolf, dark attack

You can win without them just use ur strongest animals eg when I need my emerald I use only the nature part of emerald so u could use ur strongest nature

Lipand5kids
11-12-14, 03:54 AM
R1. Pyro Pony 1< Steamtrunk 11 F
R2. Armodillo< Rainguin 10
R3. Rainguin< Vinotaur 11
R4. Werewolf< Aurora Pegysus D
R5. Rock Rhino< Grassquatch 11 N
R6. Daredevil< Ancient Sloth 11 E one hit, lol.
R7. Jackalope< Fire Glider 13 E F
R8. Chameneon< Thunder Mammoth 10 El Ea El
R9. Kola Cadbra< Magmacore 10 F E F
R10. Iciclaw<

Lipand5kids
11-12-14, 03:57 AM
You can win without them just use ur strongest animals eg when I need my emerald I use only the nature part of emerald so u could use ur strongest nature

I agree, you use the strongest of the elements to battle. Good luck and you can do it! If you get stuck there are people here that can help, I can try too. :)

SANDSCApe
11-12-14, 04:16 AM
If only gem works for certain creatures, the that's unfair for people who don't have the unicorn yet. It's basically saying that ppl who have the gem creature can win the new creature and the other players are 'oh well'.

I hope the following explanation makes sense to anyone fighting without a Unicorn or other Gem types. Whether it's Earth or some other element that turns out to be weak only to Gem, the same workaround should bring you success:


If it turns out that Gem is the only element strong against Earth, that still doesn't make the battles SYSTEMATICALLY harder, even if one doesn't have a Gem animal. The only pure Earth is a common that can be beaten with many supers or rares that are neutral to Earth. All other Earth challengers are hybrids, so one can tackle it with a super that has one element neutral to the Earth half and another element strong to the other half of the hybrid.
There will ALWAYS be a way.

It's not as if super-rare or ultra-rare forms of some nearly invincible element weak only to Gem are going to keep bombarding us with no way to get past them. Every rare and super-rare animal has two or three weaknesses because they are hybrids. Likewise, the hybrids you can use to fight them have up to three strengths.

Tournaments will always favor those who have the best fight clubs -- highest rarities, highest levels, most potent element combos, choice of champions from all elements. This doesn't make them unfair; it makes them TOURNAMENTS.

judyandthecat
11-12-14, 04:41 AM
I agree, you use the strongest of the elements to battle. Good luck and you can do it! If you get stuck there are people here that can help, I can try too. :)


Thank you and thank you to A2TUDE. It really helps when players post what they used to win a battle and and whether they use nature, earth, a combo, etc.

I always check the charts on page one that zenobia42 and A2TUDE posted.
Thank you both for taking time to do this.

SANDSCApe I hope there is a way to win without a gem animal!

Sigh someday hoping for a unicorn!

A2TUDE
11-12-14, 05:11 AM
Thank you and thank you to A2TUDE. It really helps when players post what they used to win a battle and and whether they use nature, earth, a combo, etc.

I always check the charts on page one that zenobia42 and A2TUDE posted.
Thank you both for taking time to do this.

SANDSCApe I hope there is a way to win without a gem animal!

Sigh someday hoping for a unicorn!

Aw it's ok hun I think we all need to work together so why not share :) I gotta share from level 18 ITS REALLY HARD all my supers are above level 10 and I'm battling 3 4 times to win a each level grrrr

my607
11-12-14, 05:48 AM
I lost to Iciclaw with the troll. The dark and nature attack didn't work. I'm confuse that I didn't win. With the earth it's sometimes dark and sometimes nature attack. I don't have gem animals.

jsburas
11-12-14, 06:07 AM
I am stuck on level battle 3 with the Rainguin. I keep using Vinotaur L15 with nature but keep losing and it doesn't even say if my attack is weak or strong. I have no gem animals either.

SkippySkyler
11-12-14, 06:21 AM
Try Ancient Sloth, first with leaf and second earth is critical hit, I have no gem either, but this worked just fine

my607
11-12-14, 06:30 AM
Try Ancient Sloth, first with leaf and second earth is critical hit, I have no gem either, but this worked just fine

Don't know who you are talking to

TeabytheSea3
11-12-14, 06:42 AM
Round 3 won with Aurora Pegasus. Nature attack. n/c

my607
11-12-14, 06:45 AM
Beat the Iciclaw second time with vinotaur nature attack

xxxe
11-12-14, 07:00 AM
As long as you set your alarm on your phone for once an hour until you beat the tournament you should beat it. I get on for 60 seconds every hour I can to beat my next round. The two times I didn't use this alarm strategy I lost one and didn't get my Nightmare. The second one I had to use all my gems to use ultimate attacks with only an hour left to go. Once I started setting an alarm I won with at least a day to spare. Good luck everyone!

FigmentValley
11-12-14, 07:30 AM
My daughter's unicorn has been losing so miserably at level 15, it hardly seems worth spending the food to make mine more than a level 14. With the extra gem type creatures, though, and the heavy reliance on them in the tournament, it seems a shame not to.

I guess I will wait until after the tournament. The wonderfully helpful analysis here in this forum has given me many good guidance. Thank you.

tuffyjkitten
11-12-14, 07:33 AM
I'm not encouraged to see that 7 of the first 15 rounds, starting at round 3, say gem is best. Way to screw over people with no gems! Yes I see that people have won with other animals but that appears to be more luck than design, kind of like throwing baby fires at diamond hybrids in DS tournaments. I won't be stressing much over this one even after starting late since it already seems that I can't get out of the early rounds without a gem.

SkippySkyler
11-12-14, 07:39 AM
I am stuck on level battle 3 with the Rainguin. I keep using Vinotaur L15 with nature but keep losing and it doesn't even say if my attack is weak or strong. I have no gem animals either.

Try Ancient Sloth, first with leaf and second earth is critical hit, I have no gem either, but this worked just fine.

Hope my reply is right this time

rbkj
11-12-14, 07:40 AM
Round 1 beat with level 15 frostfang water
Round 2 beat with level 12 glacial griffin water
Round 3 lost with level 15 ancient sloth nature, beat with level 15 vinotaur nature
Round 4 beat with level 13 twilight troll dark
Round 5 beat with level 15 ancient sloth nature
Round 6 beat with level 15 ancient sloth earth
Round 7 lost with level 12 gold lion fire, beat with level 12 glacial griffin water
Round 8 beat with level 12 gold lion fire

xxxe
11-12-14, 07:49 AM
I'm not encouraged to see that 7 of the first 15 rounds, starting at round 3, say gem is best. Way to screw over people with no gems! Yes I see that people have won with other animals but that appears to be more luck than design, kind of like throwing baby fires at diamond hybrids in DS tournaments. I won't be stressing much over this one even after starting late since it already seems that I can't get out of the early rounds without a gem.

You have plenty of time left to beat this tournament. I don't have a unicorn either and still managed to beat the early rounds. Positivity goes along way. Good luck, though, don't give up.

my607
11-12-14, 07:55 AM
It's at the end like round 25 then I have to repeat a few times.

Bambamstad
11-12-14, 07:57 AM
So far lost 7 times in the first 7 rounds and still struggling against the jackalope. Used the best elements and super rares and ultra rare. The first rounds are supposed to be the easy rounds. Glad I do not like the gibbon.
So I will see where this will end.

JeannesThinkin
11-12-14, 07:59 AM
At lv6, I only had to repeat the second and third round once. I'd say it's so far so good...

xxxe
11-12-14, 08:27 AM
I lost round 4 a few times but I'm pretty sure I can beat this without spending any gems. Today and tomorrow, every hour on the hour I will be battling! Lol I don't want another repeat on missing out on the Nightmare. IMO he was the prettiest horsey around!

jsburas
11-12-14, 08:48 AM
Try Ancient Sloth, first with leaf and second earth is critical hit, I have no gem either, but this worked just fine.

Hope my reply is right this time

Thank you so much! First hit was critical!

SANDSCApe
11-12-14, 09:05 AM
I'm about to give up trying to figure out the reassignment of strengths and weaknesses. It simply isn't adding up.
Earth is still being rated weak against Earth-Nature, so why the heck is Nature not being consistently strong against Earth-Nature, Water-Earth or Pure Earth??? We have at least one report of a strong rating, but most are coming up unrated, presumably neutral.
I'm beginning to wonder whether the element tutorial has been properly updated. If not, it may be giving us false ratings; not in most cases, but some -- particularly for battles involving Earth.

For all we know, they may not have completely worked out how Treasure fits into the pecking order, which may explain a few erratic ratings. But they wouldn't launch a tournament without first getting that set, would they? Hah! This is TeamLava, no? Anything's possible. I'm not saying that's the case; just don't know what else to make of this conundrum.

I advise sticking with the guidelines we had for the last tournament. But if a previously proven and recommended combo fails at least twice against any Earth hybrid, try to beat the other element. Not sure what else we can do but rely on neutrality, rarity, level and luck.

zenobia42
11-12-14, 09:18 AM
Just popping in to say I will be able to take the time to update my table on page 1 in an hour and a half or so.

ninasidstorm8
11-12-14, 09:25 AM
I'm about to give up trying to figure out the reassignment of strengths and weaknesses. It simply isn't adding up.
Earth is still being rated weak against Earth-Nature, so why the heck is Nature not being consistently strong against Earth-Nature, Water-Earth or Pure Earth??? We have at least one report of a strong rating, but most are coming up unrated, presumably neutral.
I'm beginning to wonder whether the element tutorial has been properly updated. If not, it may be giving us false ratings; not in most cases, but some -- particularly for battles involving Earth.

For all we know, they may not have completely worked out how Treasure fits into the pecking order, which may explain a few erratic ratings. But they wouldn't launch a tournament without first getting that set, would they? Hah! This is TeamLava, no? Anything's possible. I'm not saying that's the case; just don't know what else to make of this conundrum.

I advise sticking with the guidelines we had for the last tournament. But if a previously proven and recommended combo fails at least twice against any Earth hybrid, try to beat the other element. Not sure what else we can do but rely on neutrality, rarity, level and luck.

I agree with you. I posted a bug in the bug section yesterday about the Nature vs. Earth situation but haven't received a reply yet. The one suggestion I have, is that when you are dealing with Water/Earth opponents; avoid Electric/Nature when possible since it introduces a weakness into the situation. I have switched to Dark/Nature in this situation and it has worked out much better.

saucysammis
11-12-14, 09:42 AM
In case any one is still there...like me....I beat the 3rd round rainguin with the shock fox (electric-earth) using electric. My fox is at level 11

Em_storm
11-12-14, 09:47 AM
These are my winners so far.
1- Rock Rhino/15
2- Glacial Griffin/11
3- Lightning Leopard/13
4- Chameneon/5 (1 dark attack)
5- Grassquatch/15 (1 nature attack)
6- Rock Rhino/15 (1 critical earth attack, lost both Volcamel & Ancient Sloth, both had 3 strong earth attacks)

I wasn't keeping track of my attacks at first.

Sylvrthrne
11-12-14, 10:14 AM
I'm about to give up trying to figure out the reassignment of strengths and weaknesses. It simply isn't adding up.
Earth is still being rated weak against Earth-Nature, so why the heck is Nature not being consistently strong against Earth-Nature, Water-Earth or Pure Earth??? We have at least one report of a strong rating, but most are coming up unrated, presumably neutral.
I'm beginning to wonder whether the element tutorial has been properly updated. If not, it may be giving us false ratings; not in most cases, but some -- particularly for battles involving Earth.

For all we know, they may not have completely worked out how Treasure fits into the pecking order, which may explain a few erratic ratings. But they wouldn't launch a tournament without first getting that set, would they? Hah! This is TeamLava, no? Anything's possible. I'm not saying that's the case; just don't know what else to make of this conundrum.

I advise sticking with the guidelines we had for the last tournament. But if a previously proven and recommended combo fails at least twice against any Earth hybrid, try to beat the other element. Not sure what else we can do but rely on neutrality, rarity, level and luck.

I lost 5 rounds to Jackalope until I tried onyx ox. Since then, the only element that has been consistently effective for me against earth and nature is using a dark attack

lacey52
11-12-14, 10:55 AM
Lost three times to lvl 13 bansheep. Lost to magamore Fire, daredevil fire, sloth earth. Seems like early rounds are harder in this battle. May have to lose this one. I cannot play most of tomorrow, so will make winning this one difficult. good luck.

zenobia42
11-12-14, 10:56 AM
Updated my page 1 post through round 24:


RoundOpponentStrong Attack(s)Best Bets to Beat it
1 Pyro Pony (fire) water, earth Water-earth is best. Electric-earth, electric-water, earth-fire, water-fire good.
2 Armordillo (earth-fire) gem, water, earth Water-earth is best. Gem & gem-fire also good.
3 Rainguin (water-earth) gem, maybe nature ONLY GEM is proven a strong attack now against water-earth for everyone.
Some are still getting strong attack with nature, but most are not. If you don?t have gem, use your best animal withOUT fire in it.
4 Werewolf (earth-nature) gem, maybe nature Gem or gem-nature is best.
If you don't have gem, a lot of people are succeeding dark-water or dark-nature (dark attacks).
5 Rock Rhino (earth) gem, maybe natureGem or gem-nature is best.
If you don't have gem, use your best super-rare withOUT fire or electric.
6 Daredevil (electric-fire) earth x2 Earth-fire or earth-electric are best. Gem or gem-fire good.
7 Jackalope (nature-fire)fire, water, gemSteamtrunk and Ruby Razorback are best. Gem also excellent. Electric-fire, electric-water good.
8 Chameneon (dark-water) electricUse your best electric withOUT fire.
9 Koala Cadabra (electric-dark) fire, earthEarth-fire is best. (Fire or earth) with (nature, dark or electric) good.
10 Iciclaw (water-earth) gem, maybe natureGem or gem-nature is best. Dark-nature, water-nature, earth-nature may work if you have no gem.
11 Solar Simian (nature-fire) fire, water, gemGem-fire & water-fire are best. Gem also excellent. Electric-fire, electric-water good.
12 Rampage (earth-fire) earth, water, gem.Gem-fire, water-fire, water-earth best. Gem good.
13 Bansheep (electric-dark) fire, earthEarth-fire is best. (Fire or earth) with (nature, dark or electric) good.
14 Volcamel (earth-fire) earth, water, gem.Gem-fire, water-fire, water-earth best. Gem good.
15 Arboar (water-nature) electric, gem Gem is best. Electric with nature, water or dark good.
16 Terrorier (dark-fire) fire, earth, waterEarth-fire, earth-water, water-fire best. Electric with fire, earth or water good.
17 Spruce Moose (dark-nature) fire x2Your best fire withOUT earth.
18 Eagle Beagle (electric-nature)gem, fire.Gem-fire best. Gem, gem-nature, electric-fire, dark-fire, nature-fire good.
19 Nightmare (dark-fire) fire, earth, waterEarth-fire, earth-water, water-fire best. Electric with fire, earth or water good.
20 Twilight Troll (dark-nature) fire x2Your best fire withOUT earth.
21 Falconch (electric-water) electric, earth Electric-earth best. Electric-nature, electric-dark, dark-earth, earth-nature good.
22 Emerald Dragon (gem-nature) gem, dark, fire Gem-fire is best. Dark-fire is excellent. Gem, Electric-dark, dark-water, electric-fire, water-fire good.
23 Hippogryph (electric-water) electric, earth Electric-earth best. Electric-nature, electric-dark, dark-earth, earth-nature good.
24 Golden Lion (electric-fire) earth x2 Earth-fire or earth-electric are best. Gem or gem-fire good.


The animals I used to beat each round:
Glacial Griffin 10 {water attack} beat Pyro Pony.
Crystal Unicorn 12 {gem attack} beat Armordillo.
Crystal Unicorn 12 {gem attack} beat Rainguin.
Crystal Unicorn 12 {gem attack} beat Werewolf.
Crystal Unicorn 12 {gem attack} beat Rock Rhino.
Terradactyl 15 {earth attack} beat Daredevil.
Crystal Unicorn 12 {gem attack} beat Jackalope.
Terradactyl {electric attack)} beat Chameneon.
Ancient Sloth 15 {earth attack} beat Koala Cadabra.
Crystal Unicorn 12 {gem attack} beat Iciclaw.


Will keep updating. :)

deucedeuce22
11-12-14, 11:30 AM
Lost 5 times to bansheep so far, all attempts with Magmacore..

Well played game, well played.

FigmentValley
11-12-14, 11:46 AM
I can't beat the silly Koala Cadabra. I have tried a level 11 Vampire Cat (earth strike) and a level 12 Volcamel (earth strike). I have lost 12 times.

Do I misunderstand the ones I am supposed to use?

roguebee
11-12-14, 11:52 AM
Thank you and thank you to A2TUDE. It really helps when players post what they used to win a battle and and whether they use nature, earth, a combo, etc.

I always check the charts on page one that zenobia42 and A2TUDE posted.
Thank you both for taking time to do this.

SANDSCApe I hope there is a way to win without a gem animal!

Sigh someday hoping for a unicorn!

It can be done. I have all 4 previous Tournament animals and no gem animals to rely upon. Nor did I buy the prizes. I've built a fighter group by selectively leveling up my supers so that I now have all the traditional 6 elements covered by at least two animals. Between tournaments I try to level up another aniimal or two (4800 apples per feeding take a while to get a Zapra through Level 14).

Bambamstad
11-12-14, 11:55 AM
I can't beat the silly Koala Cadabra. I have tried a level 11 Vampire Cat (earth strike) and a level 12 Volcamel (earth strike). I have lost 12 times.

Do I misunderstand the ones I am supposed to use?

I would suggest ancient sloth. Earth attack

kooky panda
11-12-14, 11:56 AM
I can't beat the silly Koala Cadabra. I have tried a level 11 Vampire Cat (earth strike) and a level 12 Volcamel (earth strike). I have lost 12 times.

Do I misunderstand the ones I am supposed to use?
In the last battle, I beat it with the skeleton . Earth then fire

my607
11-12-14, 11:59 AM
I got beaten by volcamel with glacial griffin

Bambamstad
11-12-14, 12:04 PM
Round 1 iciclaw 15 beat pyro pony, water attack
Round 2 iciclaw 15 lost to amordillo water attack, unicorn 10 lost Gem attack, iciclaw lost again water attack, finally.....
Round 2 sloth 15 beat amardillo, earth attack, third was critical. Cost 8 gems
Round 3 unicorn 10 lost to rainguin, better put unicorn on hold for now...
Round 3 sloth 15 nature attack lost to rainguin
Round 3 unicorn 10 beat rainguin, crystal attack
Round 4 unicorn 10 beat werewolf, crystal attack
Round 5 unicorn 10 beat rock rhino, crystal attack, third one critical
Round 6 terradactyl 10 beat daredevil, earth attack
Round 7 gold lion 10 lost to jackalope, fire attack
Round 7 unicorn 10 lost to jackalope, crystal attack
Round 7 iciclaw 15 beat jackalope, water attack, third one critical
Round 8 terradactyl 10 beat chameneon, electric attack, critical
Round 9 sloth 15 beat koala cadabra, earth attack, critical
Round 10 unicorn 10 lost to iciclaw, crystal attack

And these are supposed to be the easy battles......glad i do not really like the gibbon

Ugh, this tournament is really much more difficult than the previous ones, at least to me it is...
Before I usually flew through the first ten levels, now I lost 8 times already

roguebee
11-12-14, 12:05 PM
I can't beat the silly Koala Cadabra. I have tried a level 11 Vampire Cat (earth strike) and a level 12 Volcamel (earth strike). I have lost 12 times.

Do I misunderstand the ones I am supposed to use?

I won with my Level 10 Volcamel, alternating earth/fire/earth, with fire being the critical hit.

A Level 11 Twilight Troll took out the Iciclaw with a Dark critical hit on first try. Both my Level 10 Eagle Beagle and Level 6 Storm Sphinx failed (Electric/Nature traditionally should have beaten him)

Aernak
11-12-14, 12:07 PM
I can't beat the silly Koala Cadabra. I have tried a level 11 Vampire Cat (earth strike) and a level 12 Volcamel (earth strike). I have lost 12 times.

Do I misunderstand the ones I am supposed to use?

I got lucky with my lv 9 magmacore.

BlueCanary
11-12-14, 12:33 PM
I'm finding this tournament oddly difficult, despite using the best animals for each fight and all strong attacks. I'm only on round six because each animal has taken over three tries so far, and I had to beat the armodillo three times because the game kept backing up. (Despite using all precautions such as visiting neighbours to sync, force closing after play etc.) I don't think I'm going to bother with this one, other than doing rounds to get food.

zenobia42
11-12-14, 12:56 PM
With the only apparent change to battle mechanics being that nature is no longer strong when used to attack earth (except for a very few people), players without ultra rare animals are at a significant disadvantage to those with them. In some cases, there are still strong attacks that can be made based on what other element in your opponent has. But in the case of pure earth, and water-earth & earth-nature animals, you CANNOT BE GUARANTEED A STRONG ATTACK WITHOUT AN ULTRA RARE ANIMAL. This is because while electric is strong to water, that is negated by it being weak to earth, and there are no other elements strong to water. Similarly, while fire is strong to nature, it is negated by being weak to earth, and there are no other elements strong to nature, other than gem.

Therefore, unless you are one of the very few who are getting strong nature vs. earth attacks for some reason while the vast majority of us do not, if you do not have a gem animal you absolutely, positively cannot get strong attack vs:
Rock Rhino
Plantlers
Bamboon
Hedgehog
Werewolf
Grassquatch
Ancient Sloth
Rainguin
Iciclaw
Rockodile
Glacial Griffin

It doesn't makes any sense at all to me personally to believe that that does not put all the players who do not have any ultra rare animals at a sudden significant disadvantage in battles. Not all 11 of those animals will show up in any arena tournament, but some will. And ONLY those with ultra rares (or the quirk that makes nature still strong to earth for a tiny fraction of players) are able to make strong attacks on any of those animals.

This is NOT COOL of TL to do.

EviBrooklyn
11-12-14, 01:03 PM
I won with my Level 10 Volcamel, alternating earth/fire/earth, with fire being the critical hit.

A Level 11 Twilight Troll took out the Iciclaw with a Dark critical hit on first try. Both my Level 10 Eagle Beagle and Level 6 Storm Sphinx failed (Electric/Nature traditionally should have beaten him)

I won this with vampirecat earth attack. The first 2 were critical

RLrox
11-12-14, 01:09 PM
Having lost to Rainguin on rd 3 with lvl 10 unicorn, thought I'd try the lvl 15 Pandafodil to test out nature attacks (have v often in the past succeeded with my single element animals - apart from unicorn! - where supers have failed) and as already reported,scored only neutrals. Third try,tried lvl 10 storm sphinx,instant **** with critical.

EviBrooklyn
11-12-14, 01:09 PM
Zenobia, in case you care to know, I used my toucan twice so far
1. Against iciclaw, I got two critical hits
2. Against solar simian, all three attacks were weak

I would have thought that toucan might be an ultimate fighter, but I guess not.

Also, my ruby boy lost against solar simian, I used gem and fire attacks
But I won the battle against solar simian with stream trunk, 2 nd fire attack was critical

readysetgo888
11-12-14, 01:17 PM
Zenobia, in case you care to know, I used my toucan twice so far
1. Against iciclaw, I got two critical hits
2. Against solar simian, all three attacks were weak

I would have thought that toucan might be an ultimate fighter, but I guess not.

Also, my ruby boy lost against solar simian, I used gem and fire attacks
But I won the battle against solar simian with stream trunk, 2 nd fire attack was critical

It would be awesome if you could test the toucan vs another Earth animal, Earth-Nature or Earth-Water would be best, and see if you get a strong. Since you got two criticals we can't tell if it's actually strong against Earth or if you just got lucky and got a critical (since you can get a critical with any animal).

zenobia42
11-12-14, 01:17 PM
Zenobia, in case you care to know, I used my toucan twice so far
1. Against iciclaw, I got two critical hits
2. Against solar simian, all three attacks were weak

I would have thought that toucan might be an ultimate fighter, but I guess not.

Also, my ruby boy lost against solar simian, I used gem and fire attacks
But I won the battle against solar simian with stream trunk, 2 nd fire attack was critical

So toucan's attack is weak vs. fire and/or nature, and unknown vs. water & earth. Since I imagine you and the others with the toucan don't want to attack with it unless other attacks failed, we might not get enough data on it this tournament to place it in the list in relation to everything else, but that's a good start - thanks! And the more info from toucan the better for anyone who has one. :)

ciarjen
11-12-14, 01:30 PM
I'm finding this tournament oddly difficult, despite using the best animals for each fight and all strong attacks. I'm only on round six because each animal has taken over three tries so far, and I had to beat the armodillo three times because the game kept backing up. (Despite using all precautions such as visiting neighbours to sync, force closing after play etc.) I don't think I'm going to bother with this one, other than doing rounds to get food.


It's the processing/synching of the game which can set you back in gameplay a few moments if you are playing on an app which has been running in the background on your device, so it needs to be done before a battle. If you do it after the battle, you could very well lose the battle you have just done.


So I would always recommend force closing before you do anything important and I would recommend force closing instead of visiting neighbours. When you force close and open, the game loads properly and you get the news box appear. This is a sign the game has loaded properly and is ready to play.

A2TUDE
11-12-14, 01:35 PM
Omg!!!!! Level 25 is redicules I've been in battle with crystal unicorn 11 times and maybe more my strongest dark (which mind you I have all dark supers at high levels) are all failing grrr unless everyone uses gems to help its gonna be hard to win!!!!

EviBrooklyn
11-12-14, 01:42 PM
Omg!!!!! Level 25 is redicules I've been in battle with crystal unicorn 11 times and maybe more my strongest dark (which mind you I have all dark supers at high levels) are all failing grrr unless everyone uses gems to help its gonna be hard to win!!!!

Did you try treasure toucan?

I wonder if ruby razorback ( with fire attacks) can take unicorn down

A2TUDE
11-12-14, 01:43 PM
Did you try treasure toucan?
Literally after about 12 battles I won with skyer omg aggravating grrr

sweetypies97
11-12-14, 01:46 PM
With the only apparent change to battle mechanics being that nature is no longer strong when used to attack earth (except for a very few people), players without ultra rare animals are at a significant disadvantage to those with them. In some cases, there are still strong attacks that can be made based on what other element in your opponent has. But in the case of pure earth, and water-earth & earth-nature animals, you CANNOT BE GUARANTEED A STRONG ATTACK WITHOUT AN ULTRA RARE ANIMAL. This is because while electric is strong to water, that is negated by it being weak to earth, and there are no other elements strong to water. Similarly, while fire is strong to nature, it is negated by being weak to earth, and there are no other elements strong to nature, other than gem.

Therefore, unless you are one of the very few who are getting strong nature vs. earth attacks for some reason while the vast majority of us do not, if you do not have a gem animal you absolutely, positively cannot get strong attack vs:
Rock Rhino
Plantlers
Bamboon
Hedgehog
Werewolf
Grassquatch
Ancient Sloth
Rainguin
Iciclaw
Rockodile
Glacial Griffin

It doesn't makes any sense at all to me personally to believe that that does not put all the players who do not have any ultra rare animals at a sudden significant disadvantage in battles. Not all 11 of those animals will show up in any arena tournament, but some will. And ONLY those with ultra rares (or the quirk that makes nature still strong to earth for a tiny fraction of players) are able to make strong attacks on any of those animals.

This is NOT COOL of TL to do.

Well said.

Lipand5kids
11-12-14, 01:46 PM
R1. Pyro Pony 1< Steamtrunk 11 F
R2. Armodillo< Rainguin 10
R3. Rainguin< Vinotaur 11
R4. Werewolf< Aurora Pegysus D
R5. Rock Rhino< Grassquatch 11 N
R6. Daredevil< Ancient Sloth 11 E one hit, lol.
R7. Jackalope< Fire Glider 13 E F
R8. Chameneon< Thunder Mammoth 10 El Ea El
R9. Kola Cadbra< Magmacore 10 F E F
R10. Iciclaw< Fire Glider E F E

Lipand5kids
11-12-14, 01:48 PM
Literally after about 12 battles I won with skyer omg aggravating grrr

Wow! Glad you finally got Unicorn down, so not looking forward to these aggravating battles. Good luck and hope your next one doesn't take that many rounds.

A2TUDE
11-12-14, 01:55 PM
Wow! Glad you finally got Unicorn down, so not looking forward to these aggravating battles. Good luck and hope your next one doesn't take that many rounds.

It's the hardest battle tournament yet and ze is right all the elements are everywhere!

EviBrooklyn
11-12-14, 02:02 PM
Literally after about 12 battles I won with skyer omg aggravating grrr

Lol. This tournament is turning out to be so unpredictable

Melis2a84
11-12-14, 02:03 PM
Round 17 spruse mouse beaten by daredevil
Round 18 eagle beagle beaten by daredevil
Round 19 nightmare beaten by iciclaw
Round 20 twilight troll beaten by daredevil
Round 21 falconach beaten by shock fox
Round 22 emerald dragon beaten by nightmare
Round 23 hippogryph beaten by terradactyl
Round 24 Gold lion beaten by terradactyl
Round 25 crystal unicorn beaten by zapra
Round 26 sea horse beaten by thunderhawk
Round 27 yak o latern beaten by iciclaw
Round 28 emerald dragon beaten by elephantom
Round 29 skeletal dragon beaten by rainguin
Round 30 thanksgibbons beaten by frostfang

Here is the egg

16664


Thought I'd move my post to the end to show you guys the egg :D

A2TUDE
11-12-14, 02:16 PM
Round 17 spruse mouse beaten by daredevil
Round 18 eagle beagle beaten by daredevil
Round 19 nightmare beaten by iciclaw
Round 20 twilight troll beaten by daredevil
Round 21 falconach beaten by shock fox
Round 22 emerald dragon beaten by nightmare
Round 23 hippogryph beaten by terradactyl
Round 24 Gold lion beaten by terradactyl
Round 25 crystal unicorn beaten by zapra
Round 26 sea horse beaten by thunderhawk
Round 27 yak o latern beaten by iciclaw
Round 28 emerald dragon beaten by elephantom
Round 29 skeletal dragon beaten by rainguin
Round 30 thanksgibbons beaten by frostfang

Here is the egg

16664


Thought I'd move my post to the end to show you guys the egg :D


Congrats my Aussie neighbour xo I'll use Raiguin now

my607
11-12-14, 02:19 PM
Round 17 spruse mouse beaten by daredevil
Round 18 eagle beagle beaten by daredevil
Round 19 nightmare beaten by iciclaw
Round 20 twilight troll beaten by daredevil
Round 21 falconach beaten by shock fox
Round 22 emerald dragon beaten by nightmare
Round 23 hippogryph beaten by terradactyl
Round 24 Gold lion beaten by terradactyl
Round 25 crystal unicorn beaten by zapra
Round 26 sea horse beaten by thunderhawk
Round 27 yak o latern beaten by iciclaw
Round 28 emerald dragon beaten by elephantom
Round 29 skeletal dragon beaten by rainguin
Round 30 thanksgibbons beaten by frostfang

Here is the egg

16664


Thought I'd move my post to the end to show you guys the egg :D

Congrats! You are too fast

A2TUDE
11-12-14, 02:31 PM
Ok all done thank god I need a holiday I posted everything including egg on first page

Good luck everyone

seekerbears
11-12-14, 02:33 PM
Stuck on lvl 13 failed with Maganacore twice this isn't going to be easy now is it

my607
11-12-14, 02:41 PM
Stuck on lvl 13 failed with Maganacore twice this isn't going to be easy now is it

I beat that with a vinotaur fire attack

zenobia42
11-12-14, 02:45 PM
Congrats on finishing, Melis2a84 and A2TUDE!

No matter what animals one does or does not have, the opponents in this tournament seem a lot tougher to beat at ALL levels. I'm only on round 11 - for me to have finished by now with the fail rate I'm having would have cost me a LOT of money. I am actually seriously questioning if I can finish this without a) buying and spending a lot of gems and/or b) logging in every single hour of the day and night to not miss a single battle. And I am really not willing to do either of those. :(

EviBrooklyn
11-12-14, 02:51 PM
Congrats melis2a84 and A2tude and thanks for posting your winners for each level.

Melis2a84
11-12-14, 02:57 PM
Thanks everyone for your congrats xxxx

A2TUDE
11-12-14, 02:59 PM
thanks zen and evi ur most welcome ninasidstorm8 :cool:

ninasidstorm8
11-12-14, 03:02 PM
Congratulations to melis2a84 and A2tude and thanks for posting your results.

readysetgo888
11-12-14, 03:03 PM
I won't spend any gems on the tournament until the last day if I feel like I have to, and that would only be if I was like 3 rounds away. I tried to speed it during the Arboar tournament when I was 5-6 rounds away and couldn't finish anyway, definitely not doing that again.

For me, no harder than usual... I just beat round 13 and I've only failed like twice so far. Now usually for me it's not until past round 20 that it starts getting ridiculous.

Regardless, I'm not motivated to spend anything or care that much about this tournament since the animal sucks. I don't need a dark-fire super rare, I don't need another monkey, and it's not that cute. Now if it was a super rare I didn't have I'd be a lot more likely to care.

zenobia42
11-12-14, 03:53 PM
I won't spend any gems on the tournament until the last day if I feel like I have to, and that would only be if I was like 3 rounds away. I tried to speed it during the Arboar tournament when I was 5-6 rounds away and couldn't finish anyway, definitely not doing that again.

For me, no harder than usual... I just beat round 13 and I've only failed like twice so far. Now usually for me it's not until past round 20 that it starts getting ridiculous.

Regardless, I'm not motivated to spend anything or care that much about this tournament since the animal sucks. I don't need a dark-fire super rare, I don't need another monkey, and it's not that cute. Now if it was a super rare I didn't have I'd be a lot more likely to care.

I'm always so ***g-ho to complete every tournament but those are some really great points you make. Do I really need to finish this? I have dark-fire super rares. I have a level 15 nightmare, and 4 cosmic phoenixes. If I "need" another dark-fire it's the Onyx Ox because that is a hole in my album until I get it. This guy, once the tournament is over and it's off the market, it's hole in my album goes away. So it really doesn't matter at all if I have it or not.

readysetgo888
11-12-14, 04:17 PM
I'm always so ***g-ho to complete every tournament but those are some really great points you make. Do I really need to finish this? I have dark-fire super rares. I have a level 15 nightmare, and 4 cosmic phoenixes. If I "need" another dark-fire it's the Onyx Ox because that is a hole in my album until I get it. This guy, once the tournament is over and it's off the market, it's hole in my album goes away. So it really doesn't matter at all if I have it or not.

Yeah I won't care that much if I don't win it but I'm still doing the tournament anyway... as long as it's free I will definitely try to win, I just won't spend any money on it.

Four cosmic phoenixes! I want one! LOL. The only dark-fire super rare I have is the ox... unfortunately I didn't get the nightmare, which was much cuter than this monkey.

EviBrooklyn
11-12-14, 04:18 PM
Sadly, no. It is the first thing i tried.

Grrrrrrrr I tried too... Disappointing

jsburas
11-12-14, 04:25 PM
Something is definitely wrong with the system. I just fought the Rhino and used Sloth L15. I used nature which showed nothing so neutral then used earth which showed nothing so last try used nature again and got critical and won round ?? How can it go from neutral to critical?

zenobia42
11-12-14, 04:26 PM
Something is definitely wrong with the system. I just fought the Rhino and used Sloth L15. I used nature which showed nothing so neutral then used earth which showed nothing so last try used nature again and got critical and won round ?? How can it go from neutral to critical?

Any attack - strong, neutral or weak - has a chance to become critical. It is just that we think the stronger your attack, the better your odds of getting that critical hit. Also, your odds are better if your animal is rarer and/or higher level than your opponent.

SANDSCApe
11-12-14, 04:28 PM
With the only apparent change to battle mechanics being that nature is no longer strong when used to attack earth (except for a very few people), players without ultra rare animals are at a significant disadvantage to those with them. In some cases, there are still strong attacks that can be made based on what other element in your opponent has. But in the case of pure earth, and water-earth & earth-nature animals, you CANNOT BE GUARANTEED A STRONG ATTACK WITHOUT AN ULTRA RARE ANIMAL. This is because while electric is strong to water, that is negated by it being weak to earth, and there are no other elements strong to water. Similarly, while fire is strong to nature, it is negated by being weak to earth, and there are no other elements strong to nature, other than gem.

Therefore, unless you are one of the very few who are getting strong nature vs. earth attacks for some reason while the vast majority of us do not, if you do not have a gem animal you absolutely, positively cannot get strong attack vs:
Rock Rhino
Plantlers
Bamboon
Hedgehog
Werewolf
Grassquatch
Ancient Sloth
Rainguin
Iciclaw
Rockodile
Glacial Griffin

It doesn't makes any sense at all to me personally to believe that that does not put all the players who do not have any ultra rare animals at a sudden significant disadvantage in battles. Not all 11 of those animals will show up in any arena tournament, but some will. And ONLY those with ultra rares (or the quirk that makes nature still strong to earth for a tiny fraction of players) are able to make strong attacks on any of those animals.

This is NOT COOL of TL to do.

NOTE: ALTHOUGH I'M QUOTING SOMEONE'S POST, I AM NOT ADDRESSING MY COMMENTS TO THAT PERSON. I'm addressing all concerned players.

Friends, I will tell you why I don't quite share the concern expressed above, or at least not to such a degree. It's not because I have ultras; two of my forests have none, but they are still in it to win it.

In my view, a "STRONG ATTACK" is a FAILED ATTACK for all purposes anyway, and doesn't help bring about a victory any more than a "weak attack". Again, the tutorial only rates the element and no other aspect of the matchup. True - the "strong" message assures you that the element is a good choice, but "strong" can show up even when the NEB is zero or negative. Furthermore, with other criteria weighing into the equation, we should all have a decent shot at taking down each challenger with high-level super-rare responders. Yes, an individual element score may be lower, which in turn may lower the NEB, which will then lower the aggregate score, which will lower the odds for a Critical Hit. (Whew! Count the steps.) It will lower the odds; not eliminate them.

I intend to win this thing, with and/or without ultras. One forest with ultras; two without. (However, I'm not sure I'll take the third one all the way. It has the wrong mix of fighters and they are too young for my limited time and patience.)

Anybody who tells themselves they can't do this or chooses to focus on what they DON'T have rather than slug it out with what they DO have may as well throw in the towel before Round 15. You're either gonna try, opt out altogether, or quit along the way and whine about it. Which one sounds like more fun?

readysetgo888
11-12-14, 04:36 PM
In my view, a "STRONG ATTACK" is a FAILED ATTACK for all purposes anyway, and doesn't help bring about a victory any more than a "weak attack".

This is super important to understand! A lot of people don't know this. "Strong" just tells you that you chose a good fighter that is more likely to get a critical hit, but any fighter can beat any opponent. You just want to choose your best possible matchup to increase your odds.

I agree, even if Nature isn't strong to Earth anymore, you can still win the tournament. You might just take more attempts on Earth-Nature and Earth-Water opponents, but that may not even happen.

My unicorn has been evolving since the start of the tournament, and I've still beat almost all the opponents in this tournament on the first try so far. I'm halfway through now. I highly recommend choosing Dark-Nature super rare if you have it for E-W and E-N opponents. If you don't have that, any super rare that isn't weak to one of the elements is a good choice and can definitely win.

zenobia42
11-12-14, 04:38 PM
I never said someone with no strong attack on an opponent has their chance of a critical hit or or winning the tournament "eliminated." I said they are at a significant disadvantage. If someone believes that using a strong attack vs. using a neutral or weak is insignificant why bother to spend hours making lists all about choosing strong elements?

EviBrooklyn
11-12-14, 04:57 PM
Toucan lost to rampage (earth/fire). All neutral hits

SANDSCApe
11-12-14, 05:35 PM
The "weak" and "strong" messages matter when I'm running tests to check or verify power relationships. But when I'm actually in fighting mode to win, I tap the "weak" or "neutral" element's button every chance I get. Why? Because I'm absolutely convinced that once I've selected my fighter, both the element buttons do EXACTLY THE SAME thing with EXACTLY THE SAME impact. 25-33% damage is 25-33% damage no matter what distracting nonsense is flashing across the screen. I'm never gonna win with just three attacks of 25-33% damage each, so I prefer NOT to see "Strong Attack" in big green letters flashing in my face.

If you don't dig it, then we are truly not playing with the same understanding of the battle system. And that's okay, because it's rather amazing how well one can manage in any case.

Tell me friends, which attack do you use in Dragon Story battles (if you play)? Bash? Magic? Think it matters? I stick with Bash; it involves less animation and gets done faster. I only use Magic when I'm idle and want to watch something cool.

The only difference between the battle systems of the two games is that Fantasy Forest's battle system has the added feature of the tutorial. But the tutorial is not scoring your attack. The tutorial is not scoring your attack. The tutorial says "strong attack" or "weak attack" but it is not scoring your attack. The tutorial is just a tutorial. The tutorial is not scoring your attack. The tutorial is not -- definitely NOT -- scoring your attack.

SANDSCApe
11-12-14, 05:44 PM
I wonder too if there would be much point on having ultra-rares if they did NOT offer a significant advantage or boost. The Unicorn in particular is brutally difficult for most players to breed. Every ultra takes nearly 4 days from the time of breeding until it is hatched. Each evolution takes a day to a day and a half. They eat enormous amounts of food!

Nobody would want to go through all that if it didn't result in significantly more income and battle power. Even if you don't have ultra animals, you can't reasonably expect them to be equal to all other animals. If they were, who would bother trying to breed them?

zenobia42
11-12-14, 05:57 PM
So someone who has no strong element at all in their chosen animal for a given battle has an equal chance of getting a critical as someone who does have a strong element and the same level & rarity? That is news to me and great to know. That would mean that even with gem being the only element strong to earth, everyone with no ultra has no disadvantage at all in terms of elements when facing the 11 earth, water-earth or earth-nature animals. What wonderful news! Since they are already behind the curve in rarity compared to an ultra, knowing that having no overall strong vs. those 11 doesn't put them further behind as I had thought, that is a great relief.

Or do I still have it wrong - are there non-ultra animals that rate strong overall strong to those types? I indeed am clearly missing something in my understanding of battle mechanics. I will be overjoyed to say I was completely wrong when I hear where exactly I was mistaken when saying players with no ultra are now at a significant disatvantage to those with ultras when battling those 11.

There are times I love being wrong. This is most definitely one of them. I look forward to hearing how exactly the ultra-less have an equal (or insignificantly lower) chance in all those situations. How they are no worse off at all for this change.

xxxe
11-12-14, 06:02 PM
Totally agree with Sand. I don't have a Unicorn but when and if I finally get him, I expect it to be stronger and better in battles. If it isn't, why the h-ell did I try for months on end to get one? Just to be able to say I have one? No.

readysetgo888
11-12-14, 06:03 PM
So someone who has no strong element at all in their chosen animal for a given battle has an equal chance of getting a critical as someone who does have a strong element and the same level & rarity? That is news to me and great to know. That would mean that even with gem being the only element strong to earth, everyone with no ultra has no disadvantage at all in terms of elements when facing the 11 earth, water-earth or earth-nature animals. What wonderful news! Since they are already behind the curve in rarity compared to an ultra, knowing that having no overall strong vs. those 11 doesn't put them further behind as I had thought, that is a great relief.

Or do I still have it wrong - are there non-ultra animals that rate strong overall strong to those types? I indeed am clearly missing something in my understanding of battle mechanics. I will be overjoyed to say I was completely wrong when I hear where exactly I was mistaken when saying players with no ultra are at a significant disatvantage to those with ultras when battling those 11.

There are times I love being wrong. This is most definitely one of them. I look forward to hearing how exactly the ultra-less have an equal (or insignificantly lower) chance in all those situations. How they are no worse off at all for this change.

I think they're still at a disadvantage even assuming that Nature was still strong to Earth.

Because, assuming you have a super rare animal that is strong to Earth, and an ultra rare animal that is strong to Earth, the ultra rare would have a better chance because rarity is a factor in how likely you are to get a critical. Assuming they were the same level as well.

Now, if you have a super rare that is strong on BOTH elements to Earth opponent, I'm not sure how that would affect your chances compared to using the ultra rare with only one element strong. So like, a super rare Electric-Nature would be double strong to Water-Earth - so would that be better than using the Unicorn? I don't know that.

readysetgo888
11-12-14, 06:06 PM
Totally agree with Sand. I don't have a Unicorn but when and if I finally get him, I expect it to be stronger and better in battles. If it isn't, why the h-ell did I try for months on end to get one? Just to be able to say I have one? No.

I understand it like this:

Gem is strong to Earth and Nature, and weak to Dark. So just based on the elements involved, a Unicorn would be a good choice against an opponent with Earth and/or Nature, but not to an opponent with Dark.

However, because rarity is ALSO a factor in determining how likely you are to win, the Unicorn is still a decent choice even when the opponent does not have Earth or Nature... because ultra rare over super rare also gives you a boost.

The exact formula, no one knows, but it is safe to say that Unicorn IS an advantage to you in tournaments.

Crr008
11-12-14, 06:30 PM
This tournament is ****ing me. It is taking several attempts to fight every animal. I'm using my best animals, most of them supers or rares, and they are falling like flies.

Lipand5kids
11-12-14, 06:44 PM
R11. Solar Simian < Steamtrunk 11 WF

Hawksmoor
11-12-14, 06:55 PM
Question. I see the Emerald Dragon appears twice in this tournament. I have a mind like a sieve...has an animal appeared twice in the same battle/tournament before?

zenobia42
11-12-14, 06:57 PM
I think they're still at a disadvantage even assuming that Nature was still strong to Earth.

Because, assuming you have a super rare animal that is strong to Earth, and an ultra rare animal that is strong to Earth, the ultra rare would have a better chance because rarity is a factor in how likely you are to get a critical. Assuming they were the same level as well.

Now, if you have a super rare that is strong on BOTH elements to Earth opponent, I'm not sure how that would affect your chances compared to using the ultra rare with only one element strong. So like, a super rare Electric-Nature would be double strong to Water-Earth - so would that be better than using the Unicorn? I don't know that.
ITA with you, and also wonder the same thing. As for the ultra rarity trumping a super's rarity, yes. I was saying in my previous post that I believe that if one animal is overall strong and the other neutral, and they are the same rarity and level, the one using the strong animal has an advantage. So people suddenly with no strong animal vs. earth, water-earth and earth-nature are now DOUBLY at a disadvantage in battles to those with ultras. One disadvantage is one thing - we all have a disadvantage against level 20 opponents for example. But taking away the only thing other than sometimes level that a non-ultra-owning player has is just not cool. Now if they face a super-rare opponent over level 15, it is impossible for them to get a leg up on it. They have been stripped of it. Have a unicorn myself and a ruby, but I am still pretty angry at TL for screwing those who don't of course they always have a chance to get the critical hit that is the difference between winning or losing an arena battle. But their chances have been greatly diminished with no explanation.

Personally, I am of the opinion that a 2x strong super rare is better than a 1x string ultra (when battling a common, rare or super), but that is 100% opinion and there is pretty much no way for us to determine which is better.

zenobia42
11-12-14, 06:58 PM
Question. I see the Emerald Dragon appears twice in this tournament. I have a mind like a sieve...has an animal appeared twice in the same battle/tournament before?

Yes. The emerald and/or the unicorn has appeared twice in a single tourney before. Sorry i don't remember more to be more specific. I can look it up thoughh.

Hawksmoor
11-12-14, 07:01 PM
Yes. The emerald and/or the unicorn has appeared twice in a single tourney before. Sorry i don't remember more to be more specific. I can look it up thoughh.

No no, that's ok. Thanks very much! The Emerald always gives me a world of trouble so the thought of facing it twice...brrrrr. Lol

readysetgo888
11-12-14, 07:01 PM
ITA with you, and also wonder the same thing. As for the ultra rarity trumping a super's rarity, yes. I was saying in my previous post that I believe that if one animal is overall strong and the other neutral, and they are the same rarity and level, the one using the strong animal has an advantage. So people suddenly with no strong animal vs. earth, water-earth and earth-nature are now DOUBLY at a disadvantage in battles to those with ultras. One disadvantage is one thing - we all have a disadvantage against level 20 opponents for example. But taking away the only thing other than sometimes level that a non-ultra-owning player has is just not cool. Now if they face a super-rare opponent over level 15, it is impossible for them to get a leg up on it. They have been stripped of it. Have a unicorn myself and a ruby, but I am still pretty angry at TL for screwing those who don't of course they always have a chance to get the critical hit that is the difference between winning or losing an arena battle. But their chances have been greatly diminished with no explanation.

Personally, I am of the opinion that a 2x strong super rare is better than a 1x string ultra (when battling a common, rare or super), but that is 100% opinion and there is pretty much no way for us to determine which is better.

We still don't know whether or not this actually happened... because no one seems to be able to update us on whether this Nature-Earth thing was a glitch or a deliberate decision, or if it even has happened at all.

I'm apparently not even allowed to comment on certain other things anymore.... but I'm pretty sure you can't tell me this isn't relevant. If we can get instant fixes for other game glitches WHY can't we get an update about this? Whatever they've done, at LEAST tell us so we know for sure.

I'm seriously about to delete this game, it's making me so angry.

TeabytheSea3
11-12-14, 07:01 PM
I hope that it is alright to post my challenges to date. It is always a big help to me to see what others have used successfully in challenges.




Round 1 - Pyro Pony (lvl 1)
Won Sloth lvl 13 earth
Lost to lvl 15 Frostfang

Round 2 - Armadillo (lvl 1)
Won Sloth lvl 13 earth

Round 3 - Rainguin (lvl 1)
won Aurora Pegasus lvl 10 nature n/c
Lost to lvl 13 Sloth

Round 4 - Werewolf (lvl
Won Sea Drake lvl 9 dark c/n
Lost to lvl 10 Troll

Round 5 - Rock Rhino (lvl 2)
Won Sloth lvl 13 nature c
Lost to A Sloth lvl 13

Round 6 - Daredevil (lvl 3)
Won Sloth lvl 13 earth s/s/c

Round 7 - Jackalope (lvl 4)
Won Steamtrunk lvl 10 water c

Round 8 - Chameneon (lvl 5)
Won Zapra lvl 10 electric s/s/c
Lost Zapra lvl 10

Round 9 - Koala (lvl 6)
Won Sloth lvl 13 earth s/c

Round 10 - Iciclaw (lvl 7)
Won Sloth lvl 13 nature c

Round 11 - Solar Simian (lvl 8)
Won Steamtrunk lvl 10 water s/s/c

Round 12 - Rampage (lvl 9)
Won Iciclaw lvl 11 water c
**Game reset challenge not recorded an hr later**
Lost Ox (wasn't paying attn & thought I was on next battle) & Iciclaw
Won Steamtrunk lvl 10 water c/c

Round 13 - Bansheep (lvl 10)
Won Ox lvl 11 Fire s/c

Thank you for all of the helpful information on this thread. Good luck!

patriziaf
11-12-14, 07:03 PM
RoundOpponentStrong Attack(s)Best Bets to Beat it
1 Pyro Pony (fire) water, earth Water-earth is best. Electric-earth, electric-water, earth-fire, water-fire good.
2 Armordillo (earth-fire) gem, water, earth Water-earth is best. Gem & gem-fire also good.
3 Rainguin (water-earth) gem, maybe nature ONLY GEM is proven a strong attack now against water-earth for everyone.
Some are still getting strong attack with nature, but most are not. If you don?t have gem, use your best animal withOUT fire in it.
4 Werewolf (earth-nature) gem, maybe nature Gem or gem-nature is best.
If you don't have gem, a lot of people are succeeding dark-water or dark-nature (dark attacks).
5 Rock Rhino (earth) gem, maybe natureGem or gem-nature is best.
If you don't have gem, use your best super-rare withOUT fire or electric.
6 Daredevil (electric-fire) earth x2 Earth-fire or earth-electric are best. Gem or gem-fire good.
7 Jackalope (nature-fire)fire, water, gemSteamtrunk and Ruby Razorback are best. Gem also excellent. Electric-fire, electric-water good.
8 Chameneon (dark-water) electricUse your best electric withOUT fire.
9 Koala Cadabra (electric-dark) fire, earthEarth-fire is best. (Fire or earth) with (nature, dark or electric) good.
10 Iciclaw (water-earth) gem, maybe natureGem or gem-nature is best. Dark-nature, water-nature, earth-nature may work if you have no gem.
11 Solar Simian (nature-fire) fire, water, gemGem-fire & water-fire are best. Gem also excellent. Electric-fire, electric-water good.
12 Rampage (earth-fire) earth, water, gem.Gem-fire, water-fire, water-earth best. Gem good.
13 Bansheep (electric-dark) fire, earthEarth-fire is best. (Fire or earth) with (nature, dark or electric) good.
14 Volcamel (earth-fire) earth, water, gem.Gem-fire, water-fire, water-earth best. Gem good.
15 Arboar (water-nature) electric, gem Gem is best. Electric with nature, water or dark good.
16 Terrorier (dark-fire) fire, earth, waterEarth-fire, earth-water, water-fire best. Electric with fire, earth or water good.
17 Spruce Moose (dark-nature) fire x2Your best fire withOUT earth.
18 Eagle Beagle (electric-nature)gem, fireGem-fire best. Gem, gem-nature, electric-fire, dark-fire, nature-fire good.
19 Nightmare (dark-fire) fire, earth, waterEarth-fire, earth-water, water-fire best. Electric with fire, earth or water good.
20 Twilight Troll (dark-nature) fire x2Your best fire withOUT earth.
21 Falconch (electric-water) electric, earth Electric-earth best. Electric-nature, electric-dark, dark-earth, earth-nature good.
22 Emerald Dragon (gem-nature) gem, dark, fire Gem-fire is best. Dark-fire is excellent. Gem, Electric-dark, dark-water, electric-fire, water-fire good.
23 Hippogryph (electric-water) electric, earth Electric-earth best. Electric-nature, electric-dark, dark-earth, earth-nature good.
24 Gold Lion (electric-fire) earth x2 Earth-fire or earth-electric are best. Gem or gem-fire good.
25 Crystal Unicorn (gem) dark Use your best dark withOUT nature or earth.
26 Sea Horse (water-nature) gem, electric Gem, gem-nature best. Electric-nature, electric-water, electric-dark good.
27 Yak-o-Lantern (earth-fire) gem, water, earth Water-earth is best. Gem & gem-fire also good.
28 Emerald Dragon (gem-nature) gem, dark, fire Gem-fire is best. Dark-fire is excellent. Gem, Electric-dark, dark-water, electric-fire, water-fire good.
29 Skeletal Dragon (earth-fire) gem, water, earth Water-earth is best. Gem & gem-fire also good.
30 Thanksgibbon (dark-fire) fire, earth, waterEarth-fire, earth-water, water-fire best. Electric with fire, earth or water good.


The animals I used to beat each round:
Glacial Griffin 10 {water attack} beat Pyro Pony.
Crystal Unicorn 12 {gem attack} beat Armordillo.
Crystal Unicorn 12 {gem attack} beat Rainguin.
Crystal Unicorn 12 {gem attack} beat Werewolf.
Crystal Unicorn 12 {gem attack} beat Rock Rhino.
Terradactyl 15 {earth attack} beat Daredevil.
Crystal Unicorn 12 {gem attack} beat Jackalope.
Terradactyl {electric attack)} beat Chameneon.
Ancient Sloth 15 {earth attack} beat Koala Cadabra.
Crystal Unicorn 13 {gem attack} beat Iciclaw. After 6 failed attempts.
Steam Trunk {fire attack} beat Solar Simian.



14. or 16. or 19. Water and Fire in the same animal????

zenobia42
11-12-14, 07:09 PM
14. or 16. or 19. Water and Fire in the same animal????

Steam trunk. The prize from the super-short tourney at the end of the trick-or-treat event.

Crr008
11-12-14, 07:10 PM
I hope that it is alright to post my challenges to date. It is always a big help to me to see what others have used successfully in challenges.



Thanks for posting. Extra help is always welcome!

zenobia42
11-12-14, 07:21 PM
We still don't know whether or not this actually happened... because no one seems to be able to update us on whether this Nature-Earth thing was a glitch or a deliberate decision, or if it even has happened at all.

I'm apparently not even allowed to comment on certain other things anymore.... but I'm pretty sure you can't tell me this isn't relevant. If we can get instant fixes for other game glitches WHY can't we get an update about this? Whatever they've done, at LEAST tell us so we know for sure.

I'm seriously about to delete this game, it's making me so angry.

I would think that if nature is still strong to earth, they would share that news with us and claim they'll fix the display of it "soon." Because clearly multiple TL/S8 people have been online since this story broke, and I can think of no reason they would not want to share with us what we players would consider good news. But if they have changed the battle mechanics to make it considerably more difficult for those without ultras to beat 11 animals, in order to put psychological pressure on those with no ultras to spend $100 and buy one... well, then they'd be silent, wouldn't they?

IDK. I share your frustration. None of us (unless someone is a closet hacker, which I seriously doubt) knows what is going on. I play another TL Story game and the staff there is so open and communicate and responsive... but here it's like another world. They can't even bother to placate us with sweet nothings but once a month or so (like the "coming soon" in the request for expansions thread). But it appears the tactic overall in this game is to get addicted to the game, then make the game so incredibly frustrating that we feel we have to spend money to make it fun again. Well, I am ALL for making at least one purchase in every free game I play beyond a few days. But I don't like being negatively manipulated. IDK. I'm babbling. I'll get back to the topic of the thread:

For those with no gem, when facing water-earth earth-nature or mono earth, you should pick your highest-level super rare with no fire in it. You will be neutral to it and that is apparently the best that can be hoped for now.

ninasidstorm8
11-12-14, 07:21 PM
14. or 16. or 19. Water and Fire in the same animal????

Steamtrunk worked well for me against the round 17 Spruce Moose (Dark/Nature) as well.

readysetgo888
11-12-14, 07:29 PM
I would think that if nature is still strong to earth, they would share that news with us and claim they'll fix the display of it "soon." Because clearly multiple TL/S8 people have been online since this story broke, and I can think of no reason they would not want to share with us what we players would consider good news. But if they have changed the battle mechanics to make it considerably more difficult for those without ultras to beat 11 animals, in order to put psychological pressure on those with no ultras to spend $100 and buy one... well, then they'd be silent, wouldn't they?

IDK. I share your frustration. None of us (unless someone is a closet hacker, which I seriously doubt) knows what is going on. I play another TL Story game and the staff there is so open and communicate and responsive... but here it's like another world. They can't even bother to placate us with sweet nothings but once a month or so (like the "coming soon" in the request for expansions thread). But it appears the tactic overall in this game is to get addicted to the game, then make the game so incredibly frustrating that we feel we have to spend money to make it fun again. Well, I am ALL for making at least one purchase in every free game I play beyond a few days. But I don't like being negatively manipulated. IDK. I'm babbling. I'll get back to the topic of the thread:

For those with no gem, when facing water-earth earth-nature or mono earth, you should pick your highest-level super rare with no fire in it. You will be neutral to it and that is apparently the best that can be hoped for now.

I totally agree with you. I have no problem spending money on games. But I hate bad customer service and I hate the unfair manipulation that seems to happen here.

Clearly they can reply to some things and not others. I feel ignored and that is disgusting. Not a dime more of my money will any TL game get unless these issues are fixed.

To keep it on topic, no one should feel that they need to have an ultra rare to be successful! You certainly do not.

Crr008
11-12-14, 07:32 PM
I do have gem creatures but this tournament has been super-frustrating for me. I appreciate everyone's encouragement and all the battle help provided. I'm behind where I should be in the tourney so I better get back to it.

zenobia42
11-12-14, 07:33 PM
To keep it on topic, no one should feel that they need to have an ultra rare to be successful! You certainly do not.

Too true! And now that we know all the animals we have to face in this tournament, we can say the disatvantage to non-ultra owners due to the possible impotence of nature vs. earth now, after round 10, there are no other water-earth, earth-nature or mono earth opponents - that is great news IMO.

zenobia42
11-12-14, 07:37 PM
I do have gem creatures but this tournament has been super-frustrating for me. I appreciate everyone's encouragement and all the battle help provided. I'm behind where I should be in the tourney so I better get back to it.

I don't know of anyone in this forum other than those who enjoy spending gems to finish tourneys very quickly, who is not farther behind than they usually are after this much tourney time elapsed. It seems that way, anyway. It seems that EVERY opponent is tougher to beat, at every stage, no matter what you throw at it. I used to be able to complete 10 rounds with only 1-2 losses. I haven't counted by by round 11 I'm sure I've had at least a dozen losses. With level 15 super rares. With my level 12-13 ultra-rare. Everything is much harder. It's not fun. But I do hope everyone who wants the Thanksgibbon, or is just competitive and likes to WIN things (*cough*notme*cough*yeahright*) perseveres against the odds and wins this thing!

rbkj
11-12-14, 08:09 PM
I do have gem creatures but this tournament has been super-frustrating for me. I appreciate everyone's encouragement and all the battle help provided. I'm behind where I should be in the tourney so I better get back to it.

Don't be discouraged!!! I don't have any gem creatures either and I have been doing ok with my super rares.

my607
11-12-14, 08:37 PM
Don't be discouraged!!! I don't have any gem creatures either and I have been doing ok with my super rares.

I second that too. No gem animals and I just beat Emerald dragon.

dumbpluff
11-12-14, 09:15 PM
two emeralds and a unicorn again.

joy. 8')

(*angryscreaminginthebackground*)

rbkj
11-12-14, 09:16 PM
I second that too. No gem animals and I just beat Emerald dragon.

Which one did u use?

EviBrooklyn
11-12-14, 09:29 PM
Ok all done thank god I need a holiday I posted everything including egg on first page

Good luck everyone

In your list it says you used toucan vs emerald. Do you remember if you got a critical right away?

Lipand5kids
11-12-14, 10:37 PM
R11. Solar Simian < Steamtrunk 11 WF
R12. Rampage< Crystal Unicorn 10
R13. Bansheep<
R14. Volcamel<
R15. Arboar<
R16. Terrorier<
R17. Spruce Moose<
R18. Eagle Beagle<
R19. Nightmare<
R20. Twilight Troll<

BunnieMix
11-13-14, 01:42 AM
Any suggestions for round 14 with that stupid Volcamel? I don't have a Glacial Griffin, nor a Gem animal. I've tried my level 10 Hippogryph and level 10 Steamtrunk (used water attacks for both), but they both lost.

Melis2a84
11-13-14, 01:49 AM
Any suggestions for round 14 with that stupid Volcamel? I don't have a Glacial Griffin, nor a Gem animal. I've tried my level 10 Hippogryph and level 10 Steamtrunk (used water attacks for both), but they both lost.

Have you got iciclaw?? Give him a try? I used him