How many mathoms do you have?

[Anyuszko]

(Mathoms, from The Lord of the Rings: things owned by hobbits, which they have no use for. They did not throw it away, instead were gifting each other.)

I wonder what type and how many "mathoms" do you have in Castle Story?

My definition for mathoms in Castle Story: Things, that:
- are (really) rare drops
- have no use*
- are still achievable**


* "Have no use" means that they are drops which never had any use in CS (such as Purple Hides), or were used in some quests (like boar pelt), but after quest completed, you can not use it anymore, just collecting.
This also means, that drops still in use (such as Golden Apples, which are really rare, but you can still use in a trade for gems) are not mathoms.

** "Are still achievable" means that you can still get/find them, so I exclude from mathoms things you cannot have more (such as items you can craft during special quest, but not after quests, or drops you can find until special period/quest, but not after it - for example pyre crystals).

Here is my current list:

http://w3.enternet.hu/kanaizol/mathom.png

With some thoughts:
- not sure large diamond still drops from mines, it may be excluded from mathoms
- I completed sister sister, the 20 inscriptions are pluses
- I can not remember where and how I got super yummi pies, and are they still achiveable

[PurpleScorpion76]

I'm only level 37, so have a few, purple hides, big ruby, made a couple extra purple scarves from the last quest, 5 mysterious venom I believe the ruby and mv come later in the quest line though.

[ShibuyaCloth]

+ Boar Pelts are drops from the Feral lands adventure (this is a rare drop), used during the Kaz arc quests. Could be used again when he comes back.
+ Super Yummy Pie was craftable IIRC during a quest
+ The Skunku-Pie is just used once during one of the Fortunes

The only items that were really never used are the Purple pelts.

[Anyuszko]

Hi Shibuya, as I described upper, the "have no use" criteria means that items which: 1. never used or 2. used in particular quests, but after the quest is over, you still can get (collect) them, but cannot use (which means you can not deplete your inventory).
For this reason I do not count golden apples as mathoms, since you can always use in in a trade (forgot name) where you get 5 gems for particular golden items.
Also, theroretically all these items can have a future use (perhaps thats why TL left them ingame), so we may use sometimes those gems, or boar pelt, or perhaps purple pelt can have a use somewhen. Still, currently they have no use, none of them.
(I should remove Super Yummy pie coz it is not achievable now).

Anyway, you may build up a new quest to yourz, like maximize out mathoms or so.
(Umm, it would be "insaner than insane" to get to 99 Skunku-pies i think..)

[ShibuyaCloth]

Anyway, you may build up a new quest to yourz, like maximize out mathoms or so.
(Umm, it would be "insaner than insane" to get to 99 Skunku-pies i think..)

I have a name for a goal beyond insane:: Miracle. Yes, 99 Skunku-pies or Purple Hide would be really insane. Those are so highly random that you have no clue if you can reach it. For now I have 28 Purple Hides and 5 Skunku-Pies.

I believe the narrowest and best definition of a mathom will limit the items too:
+ Purple Hide
+ Skunku-Pie

Unknown yet, but possible in the future are the Fearie Materials:
+ Block
+ Beam
+ Paste

[Anyuszko]

I have a name for a goal beyond insane:: Miracle.

Umm I did not find it in your thread, or should it be added later?

Only way to reach 99 Skunkupies is to make as much trades as you can. (the Belladonna one) This needs you to collect rat tails (which is painful, 15 each trades) also living woods. And is still a rare drop from adventure. :)
I am not sure if the other Belladonna trade (plants) gives Skunkupie, I did not notice if I got any from them.

Faerie materials are now mathoms as well. :) Still I think they will be used shortly, lets say from the mathoms they are likely the first what turns to be useful. (At least I hope. I have 15-20 each of them)

[roguebee]

Does feral magic pouches fit in on the list?

[iAyun]

How about adamant? :D

and Mysterious Venom (http://forums.storm8.com/showthread.php?61161-Mysterious-venom!!!!!!)..

[Anyuszko]

Roguebee, iAyun: yup, all of these are rares and not in use after particular quests. :)

[ShibuyaCloth]

Roguebee, iAyun: yup, all of these are rares and not in use after particular quests. :)

Well you need Adamant for the deep mines.... I would not put it in the mathoms list, it is a craftable resource. I have 95 in my inventory, not so rare anymore. Mysterious Venom is more debatable. feral magic could fit.

[PurpleScorpion76]

And Faeries Murmur, from posts it seems it's a one time only quest, I've got over 50 and still not used mine yet.

[spikerogers]

I have white dye from the Christmas drops. We have never used it to my knowledge.

[meme1098]

Or black dye. Have 1 of those,too.

[ShibuyaCloth]

I have white dye from the Christmas drops. We have never used it to my knowledge.

Good one. However, not sure there is any other way to get them now.

[PurpleScorpion76]

Maybe they'll come back at Christmas, I hope so.

[ShibuyaCloth]

Here my quest proposal

All those Mathoms!
Teaser: I am a Proud Hobbit!
Difficulty: Insane/Miracle
Achievement: HaHave every possible "mathoms" items maxed out
Requirements: A Mathom item can be defined as:

Is a (really) rare drops
"Have no use": means that they are drops which never had any use in CS, or were used in some quests, but after quest completed, you cannot use it anymore, just collecting. Drops still in use (such as Golden Apples, which are really rare, but you can still use in a trade for gems) are not mathoms.
"Is achievable": means that you can still get/find them, so I exclude from mathoms things you cannot have more (such as items you can craft during special quest, but not after quests, or drops you can find until special period/quest, but not after it - for example pyre crystals).

Have the following Mathoms maxed out (in () for each mathom), in scope:


Belladonna's Inscription (99)
Big Ruby (10)
Boar Pelt (99)
Faeries’ Murmur (99)
Fearie Beam (99)
Fearie Block (99)
Fearie Jar (99)
Fearie Paste(99)
Feral Magic (99)
Fey Crystals (99)
Large Diamond (99)
Large Emerald (10)
Large Sapphire (10)
Large Topaz (10)
Mysterious Venom (99)
Purple Hide (99)
Skunku-Pie (99)

Tips: Most of those items are very rare drops, so it will be month if not years to collect them at max level.

[doodledoo20000]

I have:

42 purple hide
5 skunku-pies
9 fairy blocks
15 fairy beams
12 fairy paste
99 mysterious venom (maxed out long ago like fey crystals)
73 feral magic
99 faeries' murmur
10 big rubies
8 sapphire
7 topaz
8 emerald
1 big diamond

I was bored when we were able to make black ink so I'm maxed on that, but only have one white ink...

[Anyuszko]

Here my quest proposal

All those Mathoms!
Teaser: I am a Proud Hobbit!
Difficulty: Insane/Miracle
Achievement: Have every possible "mathoms" items
Requirements: A Mathom item can be defined as:

Is a (really) rare drops
"Have no use": means that they are drops which never had any use in CS, or were used in some quests, but after quest completed, you cannot use it anymore, just collecting. Drops still in use (such as Golden Apples, which are really rare, but you can still use in a trade for gems) are not mathoms.
"Is achievable": means that you can still get/find them, so I exclude from mathoms things you cannot have more (such as items you can craft during special quest, but not after quests, or drops you can find until special period/quest, but not after it - for example pyre crystals).

The following Mathoms maxed out (99 or more), in scope:


Purple Hide
Skunku-Pie
Fearie Block
Fearie Beam
Fearie Paste
Mysterious Venom
Feral Magic
Faeries Murmur

Tips: Most of those items are very rare drops, so it will be month if not years to collect them at max level.

:) Nice I like it, esoecially the teaser :)

[Seriously700]

What about fey crystals? And do we expect any further need for fairies in a jar?

[mnjcafe]

I am L49 (should be L50 any day now), and have never ever seen a purple hide! Go figure. I don't collect from Violet that often, so maybe that's why.

Speaking of useless items, people on the forums are always complaining about pumpkin hutches as a random drop from adventures. Well, until last week, I had never had a pumpkin hutch! I now have mine proudly displayed, since it's pumpkin season and very timely. Meanwhile, I have so many scarecrows that no crow would dare to fly in my airspace! (All are in storage, but I will get them out at the first sign of a crow.)

[Anyuszko]

I am L49 (should be L50 any day now), and have never ever seen a purple hide! Go figure. I don't collect from Violet that often, so maybe that's why.

Speaking of useless items, people on the forums are always complaining about pumpkin hutches as a random drop from adventures. Well, until last week, I had never had a pumpkin hutch! I now have mine proudly displayed, since it's pumpkin season and very timely. Meanwhile, I have so many scarecrows that no crow would dare to fly in my airspace! (All are in storage, but I will get them out at the first sign of a crow.)

It worths to collect from your purple cow, it sometimes drops gem.

Shibuya, I was also thinking on a new quest about adventure-only items. I dont think they have a limit like crafted materials, but we can point a number like 100 each. I also have many anvils, scrarecows, pumpkins, campfires etc., from the overgrown bench (also adventure-only bench) I found like 30 pieces, most of the are in front of my animals.

So what do you think of a new quest of every adv-only items?

(including the new ones from the envoy to the plume)

[ShibuyaCloth]

Shibuya, I was also thinking on a new quest about adventure-only items. I dont think they have a limit like crafted materials, but we can point a number like 100 each. I also have many anvils, scrarecows, pumpkins, campfires etc., from the overgrown bench (also adventure-only bench) I found like 30 pieces, most of the are in front of my animals.


Those items have no limit, they are decorations. Except the RP items like Unicorn or Carriage have a limit (55 according to some that tested this out). Well we could make a goal that says that you need to collect at least one of each quest drop. Note also that some are craftable or can be bought. I that case you will find it in the other goals as well. Maybe we limit to items that are only obtainable through quests.

[Anyuszko]

Those items have no limit, they are decorations. Except the RP items like Unicorn or Carriage have a limit (55 according to some that tested this out). Well we could make a goal that says that you need to collect at least one of each quest drop. Note also that some are craftable or can be bought. I that case you will find it in the other goals as well. Maybe we limit to items that are only obtainable through quests.

When i wrote adventure-only I was thinking on decorations that can be obtain as a random drop from adventure. They cannot be bought, nor crafted. As far as I know there are no royal items in.
Such items are pumpkin hutch, anvil, scarecrow etc.

[JustKay]

What about items that you accidentally get that are part of an old goal, but somehow you managed to get more than one of them when you only needed one?

I have a prism because I bought one after waiting for ages and then got one from a mine shortly and couldn't use it. I also the one extra of the more recent mystery fragment used to "grow" the purple golem.

[ShibuyaCloth]

What about items that you accidentally get that are part of an old goal, but somehow you managed to get more than one of them when you only needed one?

I have a prism because I bought one after waiting for ages and then got one from a mine shortly and couldn't use it. I also the one extra of the more recent mystery fragment used to "grow" the purple golem.

There is already such goal. See last in the list from the link in this sig.

[JustKay]

There is already such goal. See last in the list from the link in this sig.

Wow, this quite unexpected. Some extreme players out there, although I can say I've knocked of a few of those goals unintentionally. :D

[PurpleScorpion76]

As mentioned earlier, I have had a second Lady Finnerva statue.

[PurpleScorpion76]

Think adding, Ghost parchment, Bat parchment, Witches Broom, Princess Tiara, Fangbeast Mask and Witches Hat might be an idea.

[ShibuyaCloth]

Think adding, Ghost parchment, Bat parchment, Witches Broom, Princess Tiara, Fangbeast Mask and Witches Hat might be an idea.

I will add them, but not in the Mathoms list. Those will disappear once current spooky event is finished.

[PurpleScorpion76]

I will add them, but not in the Mathoms list. Those will disappear once current spooky event is finished.

Only the candy corn, surely? Or do you mean the chance to make them?

[PurpleScorpion76]

What I mean is they won't disappear from my inventory? I want to keep the excess.

[ShibuyaCloth]

Yes I will have at least one of each in my inventory. They will not disappear from inventory, the crafting ability will. In that case It cannot be part of a SMART goal.

[PurpleScorpion76]

Ah ok.

[zoeee87]

Skunku-pie-5
Super yummy pie-2
Purple hide-27
Boar pelt-63
Belladonnas inscription-4
Big Ruby-9
Large Emerald-9
Large Sapphire-9
Large Topaz-10
Large Diamond-3
Feral Magic-93
Faerie Murmur-99
Faerie Block-10
Faerie Beam-12
Faerie Jar-99
Faerie Paste-7
Fey Crystals-43
Mysterious Venom-99

I think have everything in the list...

[Liloze]

I really like this thread was reading through it all, and got me looking at my own stock lol.
If I may suggest some additions that fit under the Mathoms definition:

-Dragon Scales
- Manticore Whiskers
- Mystic essence
- Bestiary - Spellbook ( from Libraries)

- Mithril- and in extension Adamant. Yes you get The Mithril from the dragon and Adamant From the Royal Trade :)
You can reach 99 on both and they become Mathoms after finishing the corresponding goals lol.

-Glimmer Trap plants -Rafflesia -Glimmer Pitcher plant.
As for why these are included, Consider you finished 99 inscriptions,
These plants you can still make in the Greenhouse and they become useless ( at least in the forseable near future).

I myself have 99 dargon scales, with 99 Manticores Whiskers after finishing 99 Mystic essence! My manties are now a source for fur rather than Whiskers, because I get the dreaded black flag of "maxed out!"

Same applies to a very rare drop from Library The bestiary, and the spellbook of course, untill they add new levels to the wizard school, we're maxed out on the spellbooks, most of us, I suppose.

So My mathoms :

3- Skunkupie
1- Super Yummy Pie

12-Purple Hide
88- Boar Pelt
99-Feral Magic

6-Belladonna Inscriptions ( couldn't bother making more lol)

10-Big Ruby
4-Large Emerald
9-Large Sapphire
7-Large Topaz
2-Large Diamond
1-Prism ( don't know if it fits the category)
5- Lapis Lazuli ( Same for this if it fits or not) Don't remember from where I got them or which goal!
1-Mystery Fragment!!! Don't remember when, where, how or why I have it lol


99-Faerie Murmur
12-Faerie Block
19-Faerie Beams
100-Faerie jar
19-Faerie Paste
26-Fey Crystals

99-Mysterious Venom
99-Mystic Essence
99-Manticore Whiskers
99-Dragon Scales

8-Pumpkin hutch
11-Scarecrow
6-Campfire
13-Overgrown-Benches
7-Anvils

45-Adamant
99-Mithril

99-Spellbook
9-Bestiary

[terri81]

[QUOTE=Anyuszko;966628](Mathoms, from The Lord of the Rings: things owned by hobbits, which they have no use for. They did not throw it away, instead were gifting each other.)

I wonder what type and how many "mathoms" do you have in Castle Story?

My definition for mathoms in Castle Story: Things, that:
- are (really) rare drops
- have no use*
- are still achievable

Holy ****, I have a ton of pink fur and all the leftovers from the Valentine's Day challenge. I kept accumulating so much fur from battles and they only way to get rid of it was to convert it to pink fur. Now, we have the trades at the exchange but what am I supposed to do with all the stuff from the Love Shack. And why is that adventure still available anyway?

[ShibuyaCloth]

Pink fur is used to upgrade the love spire. Other then that no use. It is no drop form anything. You produce it in the Love Shake.

Normal fur is consumed by trapper trades in the exchange. You can also use it to upgrade some buildings.

[ShibuyaCloth]

The Mathom goal with the full and exact description is available in the Unofficial Goals (http://forums.storm8.com/showthread.php?68847-Castle-Story-Unofficial-Goals-(for-experienced-players)) for experienced players Thread.