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AlexanderRex
08-22-14, 04:31 PM
Just sent 3 deliveries and didn't get any shears. Still need to cut a lot of trees. Not sure why I stopped getting them...but hard to gather materials for so many deliveries and then not get them. Anyone else having this problem? Don't want to waste any more deliveries....

mamareader02
08-22-14, 04:33 PM
Same prob here,was getting one with every delivery,now,no way!

mamareader02
08-22-14, 04:36 PM
Can someone tell us if we' re supposed to get shears every time or sporadic? Not wasting any more orders till confirmation

igames4me
08-22-14, 04:37 PM
Yeah deliveries stopped dropping shears
Pls make them drop

catpaladin
08-22-14, 04:50 PM
First 6 deliveries received shears. Last 2 nothing.

SparklyOctopus
08-22-14, 05:07 PM
Piper was so ecstatic with all the shears, she started running around with it trying to cut Morgan's hair. Morgan was NOT happy with this, so she's asked the vendors to not send so much shears. (Don't tell Piper.)

bozotc
08-22-14, 05:25 PM
Piper was so ecstatic with all the shears, she started running around with it trying to cut Morgan's hair. Morgan was NOT happy with this, so she's asked the vendors to not send so much shears. (Don't tell Piper.)

Is this supposed to be a joke? I dont appreciate it, if you represent team lava. This quest just turned into a nightmare.... one i have no intention of completing, if the rules are changed mid-stream!

igames4me
08-22-14, 05:26 PM
Piper was so ecstatic with all the shears, she started running around with it trying to cut Morgan's hair. Morgan was NOT happy with this, so she's asked the vendors to not send so much shears. (Don't tell Piper.)

Not happy if this means what I think it means( no more shears every delivery but random drops)
Why fix something that wasn't damaged?

Nastylilhobbits
08-22-14, 05:58 PM
Piper was so ecstatic with all the shears, she started running around with it trying to cut Morgan's hair. Morgan was NOT happy with this, so she's asked the vendors to not send so much shears. (Don't tell Piper.)
In other words "we made it too easy, not enough is being spent on gems"

remizmomma
08-22-14, 06:03 PM
Piper was so ecstatic with all the shears, she started running around with it trying to cut Morgan's hair. Morgan was NOT happy with this, so she's asked the vendors to not send so much shears. (Don't tell Piper.)

Is this supposed to funny??? The drops are not sporadic they have completely stopped!! Gem trap...I hope everyone stops purchasing.

catpaladin
08-22-14, 06:11 PM
I received 6 shears for the first 6 deliveries sent after I got to this step in the quest.

Since then, I have received absolutely nothing. I deleted and reloaded the game. Reset my iPhone. Opened a thread in the Bugs and Issues side of this forum - which was closed and redirected to this thread.

I just sent out 2 more deliveries and received only coins. Nothing else.

I don't know if TL did this to increase money spent, but I'm level 56 and an older adult who can contain myself and not spend money. This change to receiving NO shears is unacceptable. The only good thing about this is that EVERYONE will be in the same predicament and the game play will obviously stop. I'm sorry that they seem to think they change the percentage of drop to something other than zero, but we are telling them it is zero. We are not alone in this. Time will tell when no one is moving on. I hope they notice how many stop play.

Most people just walk away from a Casino that never returns the goods. I'm not willing to send any more deliveries since I am now awaiting a corrective fix to this. I have stopped stocking my market as well.

I'm going to work to get something more productive done.

Sanibelsue
08-22-14, 06:18 PM
Is this supposed to funny??? The drops are not sporadic they have completely stopped!! Gem trap...I hope everyone stops purchasing.
Wow!!! This is just ridiculous. A challenge that finally made sense now it is another pain.

mamareader02
08-22-14, 06:28 PM
Of course they had to change it,it was actually fun

dragon2046
08-22-14, 06:41 PM
Of course they had to change it,it was actually fun

I agree it was fun but still challenging. But now frusterating ! :(

bss18974
08-22-14, 06:43 PM
I agree it was fun but still challenging. But now frusterating ! :(

Just another way team lava uses to get you to spend gems... Whatever you need, you won't find so you have to use gems.

horsey3
08-22-14, 07:15 PM
Just another way team lava uses to get you to spend gems... Whatever you need, you won't find so you have to use gems.

You're all correct, the game is no longer fun...it's fun to have the challenge as long as they don't make us buy gems all the time. So wrong!!!!! Unfair!!!!! It's too frustrating to play now

bao2bao
08-22-14, 07:36 PM
TL, this is SO ridiculous. It is already hard enough to send deliveries, now that the shears drop so seldom, it's impossible for us to finish the quest.

You do realize that if something is impossible to achieve, people just give up, they don't spend $1000 on your game.

If you make it achievable, but difficult, people will spend $10-$50 to finish it.

Don't be so greedy!!!!!

jaydeewoodyy12345
08-22-14, 10:02 PM
Piper was so ecstatic with all the shears, she started running around with it trying to cut Morgan's hair. Morgan was NOT happy with this, so she's asked the vendors to not send so much shears. (Don't tell Piper.)

In my honest opinion, I think this is stupid. Not trying to offend any TL staff here, but why make such a fun event so much work? Its hard enough to complete every little task when people out here in the real world have jobs they have to attend on a daily basis, interfering with events. Why would you make it that much harder to achieve goals? Because there is not enough money being spent on gems or the special $9.99 deal of 12 shears.. seems that's the only way to get shears now anyways. As someone who has spent money and gems to try to get ahead in the game I can tell you now that playing farm story for me isn't fun, and I would rather spend my time on a game that I don't need to spend money, and actually be able to achieve goals given. It is such a disappointment knowing that the time I put in having fun in a game can easily be stomped on by your money crazy staff members.

For anyone who wants cheap expansion items add ID: jaydeewoodyy12345 - I have been saving up to expand to the truffle forest, so I have them in excess.

willb09
08-22-14, 11:14 PM
Piper was so ecstatic with all the shears, she started running around with it trying to cut Morgan's hair. Morgan was NOT happy with this, so she's asked the vendors to not send so much shears. (Don't tell Piper.)

Typical TL style. You just get greedier and greedier every day.

AJImmer
08-22-14, 11:35 PM
Piper was so ecstatic with all the shears, she started running around with it trying to cut Morgan's hair. Morgan was NOT happy with this, so she's asked the vendors to not send so much shears. (Don't tell Piper.)

This attempt at humor is inadequate and insulting. This change in the drop rate for shears is just about the last straw.

I've spent a fair amount of my entertainment budget on this and other story games from TeamLava. I know that there are some players that spend a lot more than I have but I also know I've spent more than many, many players. You (TeamLava) can do the math on my purchases to date - contact me directly if you have any interest in retaining my business and be prepared to explain why I should continue playing your games in light of the overall "shears" issue and the TL official response to player concerns.

bozotc
08-23-14, 01:44 AM
Piper was so ecstatic with all the shears, she started running around with it trying to cut Morgan's hair. Morgan was NOT happy with this, so she's asked the vendors to not send so much shears. (Don't tell Piper.)

What an absolutely assinine way to convey this info to the people that play the game. Ha Ha Ha. Sparkly Octopus, shame on you! You would think that TL, if they cared at all about the playing public, would show a little more class than this. How about issuing a statement to us about what is really going on...dont we deserve that!

pundoggity
08-23-14, 01:58 AM
Piper was so ecstatic with all the shears, she started running around with it trying to cut Morgan's hair. Morgan was NOT happy with this, so she's asked the vendors to not send so much shears. (Don't tell Piper.)

Seriously ??????
No response would have been better!!!
Please don't treat us like idiots TL !! It is not appreciated by any of us.

MommyRabbit
08-23-14, 08:34 AM
BLUE LAGOON POOL DISAPPEARED

I just finished the Lei task, won my blue lagoon pool, placed it on my farm, and it was invisible. So I restarted my game and now it's gone! Not in storage, not on my farm, nowhere. PLEASE HELP

MommyRabbit
08-23-14, 08:34 AM
BLUE LAGOON POOL DISAPPEARED

I just finished the Lei task, won my blue lagoon pool, placed it on my farm, and it was invisible. So I restarted my game and now it's gone! Not in storage, not on my farm, nowhere. PLEASE HELP


Oh shoot ... Nevermind. Now it's back. Sheesh.

blontj3
08-23-14, 09:31 AM
havent received any shears at all :(

jackie2006
08-23-14, 11:56 AM
where do i find the shears?... i did not find any shear from the last 10 deliveries.

igames4me
08-23-14, 12:01 PM
where do i find the shears?... i did not find any shear from the last 10 deliveries.

Tl made it a 00.1 % drop rate
They want you to buy the special package for only 9.99 what a bargain right?

CottageRose
08-23-14, 12:05 PM
This attempt at humor is inadequate and insulting. This change in the drop rate for shears is just about the last straw.

I've spent a fair amount of my entertainment budget on this and other story games from TeamLava. I know that there are some players that spend a lot more than I have but I also know I've spent more than many, many players. You (TeamLava) can do the math on my purchases to date - contact me directly if you have any interest in retaining my business and be prepared to explain why I should continue playing your games in light of the overall "shears" issue and the TL official response to player concerns.
Ditto. I've only been playing FS2 a few weeks, and happily spent quite a bit of money building out my farm - as in hundreds. But this is just making me want to walk away and not play at all. The decision to skew the drop rate so badly to such an extreme that I have not had any shears since yesterday was very poorly thought out.

If it doesn't get better, I will just quit spending at all. I don't even want pets in people clothes, they would stay in storage. It's that the fun is completely gone when the game is rigged for failure.

FrozenTurtle
08-23-14, 12:32 PM
Hey everyone, thanks for your continued feedback! I will share it with the game team. Good luck with the Luau! :)

Carbuck
08-23-14, 12:51 PM
I have only received 3 shears for 22 deliveries between yesterday and today. I am adding my voice to this thread as well. I won't be forced into spending money to buy some shears as what is offered is not enough to meet even one of the goals....unless you buy multiple packages. Crazy!!

lovettera
08-23-14, 04:17 PM
Hi, if you are one of those staffs, I really have to tell you how disappointed I was at the drop rate of shears :( spend lots of time and money and did lots of delivery I was, but yet I gained nothing. I also can't appreciate any bit of the humour about the Morgan's story!

frogsr
08-23-14, 04:24 PM
I have done deliveries today, approx 30-40 and not ONE pair of shears. I got plenty yesterday to complete the trimming of the flower trees....now I'm stuck with coconut tress I can't trim so I can't complete the quest, and I can't make the lei's either due to lack of them.

This is ridiculous. I don't plan on spending a dime on this game.....and if the lack of shears keeps up, no more time on it either.

frogsr
08-23-14, 06:55 PM
I have done deliveries today, approx 30-40 and not ONE pair of shears. I got plenty yesterday to complete the trimming of the flower trees....now I'm stuck with coconut tress I can't trim so I can't complete the quest, and I can't make the lei's either due to lack of them.

This is ridiculous. I don't plan on spending a dime on this game.....and if the lack of shears keeps up, no more time on it either.

Well I guess the great shear maker heard me as I am getting some now. Got enough to make three lei's.
Perhaps complaining does work.

tankerslacers
08-23-14, 07:13 PM
Hmmmm... I'm get very, VERY few shears - come TL - lighten up and give us the shears. Please?!?

FridayFarms
08-23-14, 09:17 PM
Could not play yesterday due to work, so it appears I missed all the shears. I finally could clip two plumeria -woo hoo (not). Now I'm just trying to ignore the rest if the plumeria and coconut trees since we cannot even delete them or chop them for compost.

Guess I ruined a section of my farm forever by trying to participate in this event.

preinsko
08-23-14, 11:08 PM
TL You guys need to get lessons on how to make money from Casinos. They keep us playing and paying; by providing fun. They don't change the rules in the middle of the game. Deliveries are hard especially when you have to discard 50% because they ask for things you don't have. I don't have truffle forest; but 50% of my deliveries want truffles. This event was the worst because now I have a bunch of useless trees taking up precious space. I spent $9 only to find out I needed 21 shears to meet the next quest after you took 16 from me. No more money for you *****s.

bakerystoe
08-24-14, 12:17 AM
Sucks now tL make us to the last choice is purchase and this is just a trap:(

Rockinkitten
08-24-14, 02:02 AM
Was so excited about the tiki stuff (as my real house is covered in it) but it's a huge let down.

Am thinking I need a new hobby...

sha62o
08-24-14, 03:11 AM
Excited about the tiki stuff also and now with no shears very disappointed.

judyandthecat
08-24-14, 03:57 AM
Could not play yesterday due to work, so it appears I missed all the shears. I finally could clip two plumeria -woo hoo (not). Now I'm just trying to ignore the rest if the plumeria and coconut trees since we cannot even delete them or chop them for compost.

Guess I ruined a section of my farm forever by trying to participate in this event.

If you press down on the tree you have the option to sell it I think like thirty dollars. Less then what you paid but at least won't take up room. I will keep a fair amount for decorations.

TL you do need to increase the drop rate to at least 25 percent.

sha62o
08-24-14, 04:07 AM
Has anyone noticed that deliveries are the items are the ones that take the most time to prepare.

sha62o
08-24-14, 05:16 AM
It just keeps getting worse now I managed to finish collecting the coconuts for the first part I now need 21 more for the next challenge and I have still got to start on picking plumerias challenge.it just keeps getting more impossible to do without shears.

ciarjen
08-24-14, 05:27 AM
Has anyone noticed that deliveries are the items are the ones that take the most time to prepare.


It just keeps getting worse now I managed to finish collecting the coconuts for the first part I now need 21 more for the next challenge and I have still got to start on picking plumeris challenge.it just keeps getting more impossible to do without shears.



I've made some suggestions in the other thread - making items for deliveries will really slow down your progress. I would suggest buying what you need and using your resource buildings to craft simple, quick recipes which you can make and sell quickly in your own shop.


http://forums.storm8.com/showthread.php?72215-Farm-Story-2-Luau-Festival-Event-8-21-14-(IOS)&p=954634&viewfull=1#post954634

dreamy122
08-24-14, 09:20 AM
I read your suggestions in the other thread. It seems like this challenge is for those that live in this game if your suggestions are valid and i have no reason to doubt you. However a game is by definition something that should make you enjoy yoursef and the way this particular challenge is corrected,( i was never lucky enough to get a shear in every delievery...) is not helping on the fun part.
I was with this game since it started, downloaded it for gems for castle story which i havent played since i started farm story 2 actually. Started on ipad 1 then stopped for a while when they told me it was not supported after i had reached level 35 and kept crashing on me. I bought ipad mini just to keep playing it really. I never complained,I have been reading threads in here for a long time to understand certain bugs and such and i am getting a bit sick of the greediness.
I have spent a great deal of money on it and have come to regret it as of lately due to the luck of appreciation i see. Tons of papers to complete an expansion tons of tools to finish anything and i have never seen a customers appreciation challenge, just for the shake of having fun. I dont want to count my orders to see how often a shear drops! I dont do trains to gain jems, i just want to have some good fun while i struggle with my life,kids house and husband.
69 shears to get each pet ? Seriously ? I think i will feel sorry for anyone that got to the end to win the grand price of yet another cat or dog with a lei at this drop rate. We have lives to live TL if you bet on those that have the time for this for customers you will be left with very few.

Sweet_Poison
08-24-14, 11:54 AM
Same here, the first day it worked. Every second delivery had one and now, I've sent about 12 and nothing!!! I will not spent money on buying a shear for 16 dimonds!

CampingTime
08-24-14, 01:59 PM
I read your suggestions in the other thread. It seems like this challenge is for those that live in this game if your suggestions are valid and i have no reason to doubt you. However a game is by definition something that should make you enjoy yoursef and the way this particular challenge is corrected,( i was never lucky enough to get a shear in every delievery...) is not helping on the fun part.
I was with this game since it started, downloaded it for gems for castle story which i havent played since i started farm story 2 actually. Started on ipad 1 then stopped for a while when they told me it was not supported after i had reached level 35 and kept crashing on me. I bought ipad mini just to keep playing it really. I never complained,I have been reading threads in here for a long time to understand certain bugs and such and i am getting a bit sick of the greediness.
I have spent a great deal of money on it and have come to regret it as of lately due to the luck of appreciation i see. Tons of papers to complete an expansion tons of tools to finish anything and i have never seen a customers appreciation challenge, just for the shake of having fun. I dont want to count my orders to see how often a shear drops! I dont do trains to gain jems, i just want to have some good fun while i struggle with my life,kids house and husband.
69 shears to get each pet ? Seriously ? I think i will feel sorry for anyone that got to the end to win the grand price of yet another cat or dog with a lei at this drop rate. We have lives to live TL if you bet on those that have the time for this for customers you will be left with very few.

Extremely well said! I just arrived at the point to acquire shears last night and managed two. Sent out delivery after delivery today and not a single shear. Not fun at all...

AJImmer
08-26-14, 11:46 PM
Piper was so ecstatic with all the shears, she started running around with it trying to cut Morgan's hair. Morgan was NOT happy with this, so she's asked the vendors to not send so much shears. (Don't tell Piper.)


This attempt at humor is inadequate and insulting. This change in the drop rate for shears is just about the last straw.

I've spent a fair amount of my entertainment budget on this and other story games from TeamLava. I know that there are some players that spend a lot more than I have but I also know I've spent more than many, many players. You (TeamLava) can do the math on my purchases to date - contact me directly if you have any interest in retaining my business and be prepared to explain why I should continue playing your games in light of the overall "shears" issue and the TL official response to player concerns.

The "shears" issue is not going away. No response received from Team Lava. It's becoming increasingly clear that the company does not value our input nor does it have any concern about losing our business.

PJColley
08-27-14, 10:31 AM
:mad:PLEASE, FIX THE DROP-RATE OF SHEARS! It is not "usual" to get no shears after sending at least TWENTY deliveries!! TeamLava needs to get their act together on this issue. At this rate, no one will be able to finish this Luau unless they spend a bunch of money on Gems--which is usual for every special event anyway, but this time it's even worse!

PJColley
08-27-14, 10:40 AM
...a game is by definition something that should make you enjoy yoursef and the way this particular challenge is corrected,( i was never lucky enough to get a shear in every delievery...) is not helping on the fun part.
...i have been reading threads in here for a long time to understand certain bugs and such and i am getting a bit sick of the greediness.
I have spent a great deal of money on it and have come to regret it as of lately due to the luck of appreciation i see. Tons of papers to complete an expansion tons of tools to finish anything and i have never seen a customers appreciation challenge, just for the shake of having fun. I dont want to count my orders to see how often a shear drops! I dont do trains to gain jems, i just want to have some good fun while i struggle with my life,kids house and husband.
69 shears to get each pet ? Seriously ? I think i will feel sorry for anyone that got to the end to win the grand price of yet another cat or dog with a lei at this drop rate. We have lives to live tl if you bet on those that have the time for this for customers you will be left with very few.
i completely agree with this player's point of view!

PJColley
08-27-14, 10:48 AM
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PJColley
08-27-14, 10:49 AM
It just keeps getting worse now I managed to finish collecting the coconuts for the first part I now need 21 more for the next challenge and I have still got to start on picking plumeris challenge.it just keeps getting more impossible to do without shears.
I am also in this same predicament. Only I completed the Plumerias first, now I have to do the Coconuts!

PJColley
08-27-14, 10:59 AM
WHY do we have to pick Plumerias and Coconuts for the first half of this Luau, and then do it again for the second half? What happened to the Plumerias and Coconuts from the first part? This is the most ridiculous "chore" I've ever had to complete, and I play Castle Story AND Farm Story!

sanya87
08-27-14, 01:23 PM
Got one shear all together, i give up on this event and how it seems the game itself too. I am fed up with these constant changes to make things worse and harder and overall bad treatmant of players. It was a fun game but enough is enough.

kwsstin
08-27-14, 03:35 PM
I've sent about 25 deliveries and am only getting coins. Team lava sure knows how to ruin the fun for people.
Is anyone actually writing to TL?

pawpaw380
08-27-14, 04:36 PM
I too am disappointed. Sending out orders like crazy and not getting shears. Don't want to spend anymore money on a game. I am going to quit this event and go back to just having fun! I was getting up in the middle of the night to play to try to win prizes but 2 flowers x 10 hula skirts and 3 flowers for 4 leis is too rich for me.

coralsx2
08-28-14, 08:57 AM
Same problem here. It's frustrating.

CoalCountry
08-28-14, 10:12 AM
I've only gotten one pair of shears in 2 days. This is all about getting people to buy gems! I started out playing Farm Story to just get some gems for Castle Story (which I've been playing for quite a while now.). But I stuck with FS, because it seemed like a fun game. As a matter of fact, I'm working 2 farms on 2 separate iPads. But if Team Lava doesn't start treating its players right, I'm deleting both FS games!

AJImmer
08-28-14, 10:16 AM
Wow! TL is still sitting on their hands on this issue.

CoalCountry
08-28-14, 10:22 AM
Just sent 3 deliveries and didn't get any shears. Still need to cut a lot of trees. Not sure why I stopped getting them...but hard to gather materials for so many deliveries and then not get them. Anyone else having this problem? Don't want to waste any more deliveries....
I've been playing this Luau thing since the very first day. All I have been able to accomplish is the first task of collecting the FIRST bunch of Plumerias. I've only gotten one pair of shears in 2 days.

This is all about getting people to buy gems! I started out playing Farm Story to just get some gems for Castle Story (which I've been playing for quite a while now.) But I stuck with FS, because it seemed like a fun game. As a matter of fact, I'm working 2 farms on 2 separate iPads. But if Team Lava doesn't start treating its players right, I'm deleting both FS games!

AJImmer
08-28-14, 07:03 PM
Still no response from TL on this issue???

nukesters2
08-29-14, 12:37 PM
Nearly 5 hours of steady play, lost track of how many deliveries.....NOT ONE SINGLE PAIR OF SHEARS!!!! This is REDICULOUS!!!! Fix it Stormy!!!!! NOW!

AJImmer
08-29-14, 01:24 PM
Still no response from TL on this issue???

SparklyOctopus
08-29-14, 03:48 PM
Hey everyone! Thank you for continuing to share your feedback! We do share your suggestions with the game team, so please continue to share constructive feedback. Best of luck in the Luau Event!

igames4me
08-29-14, 04:08 PM
Hey everyone! Thank you for continuing to share your feedback! We do share your suggestions with the game team, so please continue to share constructive feedback. Best of luck in the Luau Event!
Yes you said it right we need LUCK to complete this event .
We have no luck. Thanks

minidemon88
08-30-14, 03:23 AM
Yes you said it right we need LUCK to complete this event .
We have no luck. Thanks

LOL! 95% of the fs2 players are out of luck during this event. But... they can't stop us from helping one & another out. We have a awesome community! :D Should get rid of Stormie, he's so stingy with the shear. <__< *stares*

ciarjen
08-30-14, 06:22 AM
Hey everyone! Thank you for continuing to share your feedback! We do share your suggestions with the game team, so please continue to share constructive feedback. Best of luck in the Luau Event!


Everything about FS2 screams fun! The graphics are fun, the colours are fun, the animations are fun, the animals are fun. Unlike other Team Lava games, this one can be played any time and that?s always fun. There is always something to be done ? crafting, buying, selling, making deliveries. It?s all fun.


The problem with the events is that you take the fun out of the game and you alienate so many players who are looking for that fun element and then they are torn between staying loyal to a game they love to play for fun and hating what it has turned into.


Basing events around making deliveries is brilliant for the game. When tasks are orientated towards buying something then players stop buying in the shops and the whole game grinds to a halt. When players need to make deliveries, the game moves very fast with people buying and selling all the time and the players get the bonus of XP to level up and maybe a few parts and papers to expand as well.


Events need to be a challenge because there is no fun in something that is too easy so you were right in that shears were not issued for every delivery to make. The drop rate itself was not a problem but the issue is the randomness of how the drop rate works. When you make 19 deliveries without one shear like I did yesterday, you question why you are even bothering to play the game. On lower level accounts that amount of deliveries is enough to break the bank, so to deplete all funds and resources for no return is pointless and it is no wonder that people are complaining and feel the need to give up the game.


Now if Piper had said something like ?make 50 deliveries and I will give you 5 shears? then players would know that there would be a point to ardous, resource draining, delivery making. They would also know that everyone has a fair chance of getting the rewards if they do the work. As it is at the moment, lucky people tend to get the rewards and others miss out, even those who have put in just the same amount of time/effort into the game. This goes for past events too.

The players themselves want the fairness where everyone gets the same chance. You can see from the forum over the last few days how they have been helping each other out and they would like to see TL demonstrate that they too would like everyone to get the same chance to obtain the prizes.

Some players with coins have just been making deliveries to get shears to help those players who are struggling. Now that may not be good for your value pack sales but it demonstrates a community spirit which you could capitalize on in future events which benefits both players and Team Lava.

I understand the lottery of receiving items may have a lot to do with getting income which the game is based on but other games like Dragon Story have events which are based on rewards obtained for work done. Maybe it would even be viable to have events with split components of guaranteed rewards paying out for work done and random drops. At least with some guarantee then players don?t feel like all their time/effort is being wasted and they can relax and enjoy the game even while they are being challenged by it.