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k6scux
12-16-13, 03:51 AM
What's going on Fire Mocha?! There is a tournament going on where the idea is to win crowns. In 2 days I haven't found a single crown! Even the level 71 bases that come up offer me 0 crowns. How can I participate in the tournament if you deny me the opportunity to win crowns? Apparently my base offers other players crowns since every time I log off I get hit and lose massive crowns. But I can't find a single crown to fight for anywhere. What's going on? Do you want your players to leave the game? If there are no crowns there is no game. Are you trying to encourage farming?

meyoume
12-16-13, 07:46 AM
I have lost 300 crowns over the last week with basically zero chance to win them back.......fat chance of progressing up
There is thread after thread talking about this problem.
I guess fire mocha is tired of paying customers....... I spent ALOT on this game
Now feeling fairly screwed over
All I want is the chance...... The possibility of winning crowns

ajax1964
12-16-13, 11:38 AM
I have lost 300 crowns over the last week with basically zero chance to win them back.......fat chance of progressing up
There is thread after thread talking about this problem.
I guess fire mocha is tired of paying customers....... I spent ALOT on this game
Now feeling fairly screwed over
All I want is the chance...... The possibility of winning crowns

I hear you. I spent money daily to regenerate and attack. More than I've ever spent on any of these games. Now I'm literally gardening, knocking down trees and rocks for gems because I refuse to spend another dime. We're supposed to attack TO GAIN NOTHING. Then wait hours to regenerate our forces? Thanx I'd rather chew glass and watch paint dry. I play a lot of Storm8 games, have for years. This SUX!

FrozenTurtle
12-16-13, 11:39 AM
When you reach the top ranks, it may be more difficult to find battles where you can win Crowns. These results are intended to ensure the top Crowns never get too inflated. With that said, we are continually evaluating the Crown rewards. :)

jackansi
12-16-13, 11:55 AM
I have lost 300 crowns over the last week with basically zero chance to win them back.......fat chance of progressing up
There is thread after thread talking about this problem.
I guess fire mocha is tired of paying customers....... I spent ALOT on this game
Now feeling fairly screwed over
All I want is the chance...... The possibility of winning crowns

Or there are people paying much more than you hogging up all the available crowns... Maybe you need to spend more, not less?

meyoume
12-16-13, 09:36 PM
Frozen turtle, I may take what your saying as true IF I didn't have people with MORE crowns than me saying they find crowns all the time.
There is serious unbalance, hours and hours with ZERO crowns available just doesn't make any sense
How are people gaining crowns if none are available to people with high crown levels,
I am no where near the top . But I see people higher obviously finding battles with crowns because the scoot right up the ranks. All I am saying is at the very least a % of all battles need to have some crown value to them.

jackansi
12-17-13, 05:57 AM
Those people up top (top 10 or 20) are getting all the crowns right now because of how much they play, so you need to adjust how you play. They could be in just the right time zone to catch everyone while they sleep or something like that, yes, but then you'd better be up before they are to beat them to the punch.

The top 50 has been moving and shaking, so there ARE crowns up there. If FM gave crowns on every battle you'd need to find 3, 4, 5 thousand crowns to crack the top 50 anyway with how much they play. I also don't believe anyone saying they get ZERO crown battles, but I would believe they get ZERO crown battles that you are sure you'd win. Sometimes you have to risk to get rewards.

I've been to 2000CR lately, I got enough chances to get crowns. They were just on bases I didn't have a chance on attacking successfully because they were so built up. That is one thing that is NOT FM's problem (never thought I'd say that). Blame the people who come here and cry about spending hundreds or thousands on this game. They attacked everyone worth attacking and prevented you from finding crowns, not FM.

MeisterLampee
12-17-13, 06:57 AM
I totally understand your frustration. Finding no crowns sounds very senseless. Of course it is logic to find fewer crowns the more up the ranking you are. But hours without crowns? Come on!

Can you make me a favor? Can you pleas put more information in your post? I would like to understand the situation, but like this I have no idea what level you are, how many crowns you got or your ranking, size of kingdom?

k6scux
12-17-13, 07:28 AM
When you reach the top ranks, it may be more difficult to find battles where you can win Crowns. These results are intended to ensure the top Crowns never get too inflated. With that said, we are continually evaluating the Crown rewards. :)

So Turtle, you are admitting that the game is rigged to prevent high crown players from playing the game. You have just confirmed what we already suspected to be true. If the game and the tournaments goal is to gain crowns then preventing high crown players from finding crowns is essentially kicking them out of the game. We can't participate in tournaments without dropping crowns. No wonder farming is so popular. I was ranked #5 and found no crowns for days. None. So this game rewards success by preventing players from playing the game as designed.

teresa616
12-17-13, 08:10 AM
To inflated are you kidding me!!! How about drop like a rock.....I a week I can't find a single crown...I solely depend on attacks and hope for the best...Im a level 71 (Mischant) now I have a level 45 attack me for 29 crowns and the revenge is zero...very unfair of you to do this ...a tourney means just that and when I can't find crowns whalers the fairness...this is BS you gladly take my $$$$$. But strip me in the tourney....you need to seriously re-think your ideas and pronto....next step BBB and iTunes....

emilyscastle123
12-17-13, 08:12 AM
I have to agree with jackansi on this one, crowns are there if you take the risk, I tried a few at the top, maxed weapons are tough but not unbeatable, losing crowns from attacks means your base can't sustain your crown lvl, that's my problem too. But hey, you could always play dragon story, I did that too for awhile!

teresa616
12-17-13, 08:29 AM
WHAT IS THIS SOCIALISM TAKE FROM THE RICH AND GIVE TO THE POOR TO MAKE EVERYBODY EQUAL!!!!!!...games have winners and losers...without them nobody would play...you take from high level players and give to low level players to make everybody equal.ive paid a lot of money to get to where I'm at...I see it as you taking it away from me, so why should anyone continue to play, if your playing this game and spending your hard earned money to play this game..USE THIS A COMPLAINT AS A WARNING NOT TO INVEST$$$$$$$...

crazyscorp
12-17-13, 12:05 PM
It just seems really buggy at times. I am not high crowns (1200) but have noticed times when I can push next 50 times and not get anyone that offers a crown (don't care about crowns but every base that comes up was a new player with no loot).

This has happened to me a few times normally exiting the game and starting up again fixes it

meyoume
12-17-13, 07:43 PM
Ok today was a bit better .....not good but better
Asking about more info
I am level 56 with 2217 crowns( and ever dropping lol)
Tonight I counted how many battles
The 1st 184 battles had 0 crowns with 40 crowns loss
Then one battle with crowns(26 crown win .. The very best crown win I have seen in a long long time)
All said and done
459 battles ..... 4 had crowns available( one had 1 crown win , another 3 crown win...not really much but at least not zero lol)
This is a bit better...but still less than 1% battles have crowns
I am still holding out hope that the developers can fix this. The point that there is a tournament where crowns are how you win, perhaps manipulating the way crowns battles are handed out seems a bit like cheating. Maybe even crown battles for everyone. Like. Percentage, 10% battles have crowns or higher

goddessnikole
12-18-13, 10:27 AM
People should all start at zero. In the early stages only 1 crown should be earned as everyone will be on the same playing field low level and high levels alike. As people progress through the levels, crowns to be earned are increased. Let's say 5-15 for bases right below your level, 15-20 for bases on your level and 20+ for bases more developed. This way the game becomes competitive. With their being a cap, people are forced to choose wisely. I've watched over the last week people higher and lower levels lose to my base and I have a lot of work to do. This could work and will engage all players and even make you guys more money then your current system. More active players daily = more money for you. "When players reach cap they will stop playing"... No, they wont because people are actually defeating them because they are on the same level as them.... so if they want to stay on top they have to battle to win. Also, change the shield system if we argue they will hide behind shields... well simple 50% win = 2 1/2 hr shield, 60=3 1/2 hr, 70-4 1/2hr and so on and so forth. Or even only increase shield by half hour per every 10% win over the 50% mark... either way, revenges become useful, and players are constantly engaged. More players playing will increase your revenue. More players will play because they want to win. Tournaments would come down to the wire making it more fun. Not a very detailed thought out change to the crown system I'm sure others can add input to iron out the wrinkles but at this point anything is better than what's going on now.

SANDSCApe
12-19-13, 09:12 AM
LOL. This boo-hooing is ridiculous!
The same players who complain that they can't find crowns are crying that they are losing loads of crowns to attackers. Aren't those attackers in the same crown range as you? Then obviously, there are crowns available -- from bases like yours! Might wanna look at that.
Look, if some people are finding crowns while others in the same crown range keep pulling up zero-crown victories, it's not the game. It's the players. Maybe not everybody is cut out to be a serious crown hunter.

syllrag
12-19-13, 09:47 AM
People should all start at zero. In the early stages only 1 crown should be earned as everyone will be on the same playing field low level and high levels alike. As people progress through the levels, crowns to be earned are increased. Let's say 5-15 for bases right below your level, 15-20 for bases on your level and 20+ for bases more developed. This way the game becomes competitive. With their being a cap, people are forced to choose wisely. I've watched over the last week people higher and lower levels lose to my base and I have a lot of work to do. This could work and will engage all players and even make you guys more money then your current system. More active players daily = more money for you. "When players reach cap they will stop playing"... No, they wont because people are actually defeating them because they are on the same level as them.... so if they want to stay on top they have to battle to win. Also, change the shield system if we argue they will hide behind shields... well simple 50% win = 2 1/2 hr shield, 60=3 1/2 hr, 70-4 1/2hr and so on and so forth. Or even only increase shield by half hour per every 10% win over the 50% mark... either way, revenges become useful, and players are constantly engaged. More players playing will increase your revenue. More players will play because they want to win. Tournaments would come down to the wire making it more fun. Not a very detailed thought out change to the crown system I'm sure others can add input to iron out the wrinkles but at this point anything is better than what's going on now.

You missed other threads on that topics. Apparently, the developer missed them too.

http://forum.storm8.com/showthread.php?61608-Different-tournament-rules
http://forum.storm8.com/showthread.php?61520-Matching-system-hopelessly-flawed
http://forums.storm8.com/showthread.php?60532-New-Crown-System

jahil
12-19-13, 05:10 PM
LOL. This boo-hooing is ridiculous!
It's the player. Maybe not everybody is cut out to be a serious crown hunter.

You definitely hit the spot there.....

meyoume
12-19-13, 08:41 PM
This is certainly not boohooing , what Are you 3 lol
I win like 90% of all battles I take on. So it's not "the player"
184 battles in a row with zero crowns available is just wrong.
All I want is the chance to battle. Not asking for too much.

MeisterLampee
12-20-13, 08:29 AM
This is certainly not boohooing , what Are you 3 lol
I win like 90% of all battles I take on. So it's not "the player"
184 battles in a row with zero crowns available is just wrong.
All I want is the chance to battle. Not asking for too much.

I totally second that. 184 battles without crown is an absolute no-go! This hast nothing to do with whining. This is serious feedback and needs an official reaction!

jackansi
12-21-13, 07:16 AM
This is certainly not boohooing , what Are you 3 lol
I win like 90% of all battles I take on. So it's not "the player"
184 battles in a row with zero crowns available is just wrong.
All I want is the chance to battle. Not asking for too much.

Yeah maybe you did win 184 battles in a row, but how many times did you use the 'next' button? You can't skip over the hard ones and expect to get crowns...

grover60
12-21-13, 08:28 AM
Hey jackansi, read his/her post properly and you might figure out what he's saying. 184 battles in a row with no crowns available.

meyoume
12-21-13, 11:00 AM
I hit the next button 184 times, I am NOT spending 38 to rebuild my army for a level 10 base with under 3 k gold and of course zero crowns. I take on any battles that have some sort of reward. Crowns or gold winnings. But not finding much of either. I was up to 2500 crowns at one point so I KNOW it was possible to move up in level. But all of the sudden I can not find the battles like I used too. Down to 2150 crowns. Each time I head into to battle , I spend at least 2 hours searching.......... But not finding enough crowns to make up for what I lost while logged off. I have to say it is getting slightly better. Last night after 4 hours I found about 60 crowns total. So I am holding out hope that they have twitched the system to be more fair :)

Rockinkitten
12-30-13, 05:29 AM
I'm having the same problem. I'm level 31, so hardly top rank. I'm not interested in money or stones, just crowns. I'm not finding any and keep skipping kingdoms as I would rather pay than wasting my precious troups!

What decides how many crowns are offered? How can I tell what my kingdom offers crown wise?

Chianti
12-30-13, 10:14 AM
I've completely reverse engineered their code. I can promise you that the crowns are there; They just hide them from you, deliberately, to slow down how fast you can crown up. Unfortunately, they slow the process down too much, since they want you burning through resources.

I can truthfully say I have never seen worse code in my life, and I've never seen a more abhorrent business practice. Everything about this game is intended to drive you to buy gems. I know that every Storm8 game works that way, but I don't feel this pressure in Dragon Story, or Castle Story. Storm8 should be very scared about the future of this game.

I just feel sorry for Turtle (and other mods/community managers) - they are the only people actually doing anything right, but it doesn't travel to the developers or producers.

Sumercarefree
12-30-13, 08:28 PM
Yes I guess at 2000 over crowns it can be pretty tough.


I am lvl 47 with 1672 crowns. I plan to drop to 1500 crowns, so money will be easier to get to rebuild.
I often attack for money and try to lose or take less crowns when I can.

jackansi
12-30-13, 10:44 PM
Hey jackansi, read his/her post properly and you might figure out what he's saying. 184 battles in a row with no crowns available.

There is a difference between battles and matches. Guess you didn't catch on to that.

Hitting next brings up the next match, actually attacking someone starts the battle.

There is a vast difference between the two. I questioned if they skipped kingdoms that did provide crowns because they were too hard and just claimed there were no crowns. I was up there once, you know, I skipped many matches that I had no chance of winning. Those were also the matches that had crowns. Never had to go more than 20 or so to get a crown match, but I did have to go quite a bit further to find a match I wanted to risk it with in battle.

Not storm8's problem that my kingdom isn't advanced as people playing/paying from nearly day one.

I'm sure there were a few crown matches in that 184, they just weren't daring enough (or advanced enough) to go after them.

meyoume
01-16-14, 07:48 AM
Ok Jackansi.....you really aren't reading what is written it seems lol
184 "MaTCHES" ...hit next 184 times
I don't skip hard battles .......I DO skip battles that have zero value.
There is something seriously wrong when I , at level 62 am paired with battles with people level under level 30.
I see so many matches with level under 10 even.....seriously??
You say your "sure" some of those matches had crowns....well READ THIS THERE WAS ZERO CROWNS thus my reason for posting my complaint....DUH