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cedkugedchgd
06-27-13, 10:35 AM
New Dragon out! Blue/White/Red Elements :)

12 Hours

http://i1273.photobucket.com/albums/y416/kookypanda99/d6e39dc8-5fce-4edb-b57c-06b5e4cd0f6b_zpsd9001290.jpg (http://s1273.photobucket.com/user/kookypanda99/media/d6e39dc8-5fce-4edb-b57c-06b5e4cd0f6b_zpsd9001290.jpg.html)


Independence Timer: http://goo.gl/JsRt5d



12 hours. I got it with light and athletic

Winter/ruby is correct with 12 hours.


crusader x icecream - 12hrs


Crusader + Winter... 12h


got it with water and love..
before i used light and athletic..but cannot..always got laserlight and virtue..
good luck.. !

Mani_Sari
06-27-13, 10:38 AM
Hmmm thought I posted this last night, guess I must have been dreaming it lol.

Storm7485
06-27-13, 10:39 AM
Got it first try with winter/ruby.

funkd
06-27-13, 10:40 AM
Got it first try with winter/ruby.

How many hours?

cookiefairey
06-27-13, 10:41 AM
12 hours. I got it with light and athletic

081702
06-27-13, 10:41 AM
Can't try for this as no dragons with these colors are healed. A much needed break for me.

081702
06-27-13, 10:42 AM
How many hours?

Why do people post about getting something and not tell is the details?

kooky panda
06-27-13, 10:47 AM
http://i1273.photobucket.com/albums/y416/kookypanda99/d6e39dc8-5fce-4edb-b57c-06b5e4cd0f6b_zpsd9001290.jpg (http://s1273.photobucket.com/user/kookypanda99/media/d6e39dc8-5fce-4edb-b57c-06b5e4cd0f6b_zpsd9001290.jpg.html)

I used Light and athletic too.
12 hours

Storm7485
06-27-13, 10:47 AM
The combo I used was mercury/ruby. Sorry for the mistake. It's 12 hours.

kooky panda
06-27-13, 10:49 AM
The combo I used was mercury/ruby. Sorry for the mistake. It's 12 hours.
Hey no problem thanks for the posting your combo so fast!

Mani_Sari
06-27-13, 10:57 AM
Laserlight, Magic and a friggin Virtue. Goodness can I at least have a short time fail lol. I'll try that Winter/Ruby combo in 33 hours.

081702
06-27-13, 10:59 AM
The combo I used was mercury/ruby. Sorry for the mistake. It's 12 hours.

Mercury and ruby? I thought it was red, white and blue?

ShadowDragon136
06-27-13, 11:03 AM
Does anyone know if this dragon is going to be limited? I still need a Fireworks Dragon (wasn't around when it was available the first time) so I'm trying to figure out which to go for first.

amicacordis
06-27-13, 11:04 AM
Love and Water, first try. Android user.

buttmarb
06-27-13, 11:05 AM
Used LIGHT x ATHLETIC got a love and a virtue before I got it. GOOD LUCK
81638163

Storm7485
06-27-13, 11:10 AM
I apologize for this mistake again but my original posting of winter/ruby was correct. I got so excited getting it the first time that I had to double check myself. Winter/ruby is correct with 12 hours.

mityaj
06-27-13, 11:11 AM
Crusader + Winter... 12h

bzrtnom
06-27-13, 11:13 AM
got it with water and love..
before i used light and athletic..but cannot..always got laserlight and virtue..
good luck.. !

emc420
06-27-13, 11:18 AM
crusader x icecream - 12hrs

momohuny
06-27-13, 11:21 AM
Got it with winter and love - took a few tries!

zhynabella
06-27-13, 11:51 AM
how does mercury/ruby gave independence if its tricolor with light?


The combo I used was mercury/ruby. Sorry for the mistake. It's 12 hours.

zhynabella
06-27-13, 11:52 AM
Gotcha :D


I apologize for this mistake again but my original posting of winter/ruby was correct. I got so excited getting it the first time that I had to double check myself. Winter/ruby is correct with 12 hours.

montrianmaster
06-27-13, 12:17 PM
what does it look like. can someone post a picture to see if it appeals to me

MomsHouseofSweets
06-27-13, 12:36 PM
Just shows red, white and blue, so no specisl habitat?

aceblade
06-27-13, 12:37 PM
Just shows red, white and blue, so no specisl habitat?

Nope!
....don't give them any ideas!! lol
;)

storminatcup75
06-27-13, 01:06 PM
First try Fire/Winter 11 hours better luck next time. I hope it's better than the luck I'm having trying to breed Cheshire Big Bad Stone Kistune though I can't get any of them. The best thing I've got trying for those 4 was the Justice Dragon I didn't have. I now have something like 4 Dawntree Dragons too and I sold 1 as well!

lunarbunny
06-27-13, 01:14 PM
I would get virtue on the first try! I would take magic any day lol. I used athletic/pearl :/

beankai
06-27-13, 01:26 PM
This is my first and only first try ever getting something new. I bred winter and fire and got 12 hrs. Sped it up and now I have Blue Egg White Start and Red Stripe egg!!!! Woot!!!

beankai
06-27-13, 01:30 PM
lol 5 seconds later I try on my phone and get 33 hrs. Ouch

wayneh23
06-27-13, 01:59 PM
I used water/love takes the 33 hour fail out, worked for me.

jcas6314
06-27-13, 02:25 PM
Leviathan and Light got it :-)

GoldenTiger99
06-27-13, 02:59 PM
Ruby and IceCream- 12 hours. First try!

wayneh23
06-27-13, 03:01 PM
Ruby and IceCream- 12 hours. First try!

Could be a winter, just saying.

devastated1978
06-27-13, 03:09 PM
Got 2 with angel and leviathan

devastated1978
06-27-13, 03:10 PM
Not liking virtue fails

awsumum
06-27-13, 03:22 PM
Got it with sapphire and love, good luck!

s_lynne
06-27-13, 07:01 PM
Ruby and Winter gave me 2 Magic Dragons. Ugh!!!

HenryLucky1
06-27-13, 07:14 PM
Okay, I slept tonight. I don't know if there's independence dragon, just try water and love, got 12 hours.

lilobrat05
06-27-13, 07:17 PM
Just tried athletic and light and got 33 hours......*sigh* I think TL has banned me from getting any new dragons or something...it's been weeks since I got a new egg in my nest......they just keep sending more and more new ones and I can't get them 😔 I don't wanna quit playing but it's getting to that point where it's no more fun and just frustrating.

MomsHouseofSweets
06-27-13, 07:21 PM
Okay, I slept tonight. I don't know if there's independence dragon, just try water and love, got 12 hours.

Hope you got it!!!

HenryLucky1
06-27-13, 07:24 PM
Hope you got it!!!

Thanks! I won't hope again for this game... yeah, you know why..

koiju
06-27-13, 07:24 PM
Athletic and light - 12 hrs, fingers crossed it's not another winter...

seoy8
06-27-13, 07:36 PM
Wow love it. This dragon remind me of Captain of America! ^^

koiju
06-27-13, 07:40 PM
Does anyone know if this dragon is going to be limited? I still need a Fireworks Dragon (wasn't around when it was available the first time) so I'm trying to figure out which to go for first.

Holy moly I completely missed this! When I saw your post I thought, oh poor love, Fireworks is removed. Re-read it, went to my game and there it is! I'm gonna try for it now. I hope to goodness that my 12 hr on the nest is an independence and not a winter so I can go straight onto fireworks!!
Thanks for the heads up :)

ShadowDragon136
06-27-13, 07:51 PM
Fireworks was 'brought back' earlier today with a timer of about a week, but then vanished from peoples' markets not too long afterwards. Now it's back in some of them, and Kooky's investigating :)

I'd still like to know how long Independence will be around for, because with a 20h and 22h fail, I'm not really looking forward to trying for Fireworks (not that a 33h Virtue fail for Independence is any better).

wayneh23
06-27-13, 07:57 PM
Fireworks was 'brought back' earlier today with a timer of about a week, but then vanished from peoples' markets not too long afterwards. Now it's back in some of them, and Kooky's investigating :)

I'd still like to know how long Independence will be around for, because with a 20h and 22h fail, I'm not really looking forward to trying for Fireworks (not that a 33h Virtue fail for Independence is any better).
If you use water/love the longest fail is 20 hours(magic)

lady_saphira
06-27-13, 08:09 PM
If you use water/love the longest fail is 20 hours(magic)
How does water/love take out the 33 hour fail? Is it not possible to get virtue with that combo?

HenryLucky1
06-27-13, 08:12 PM
How does water/love take out the 33 hour fail? Is it not possible to get virtue with that combo?

Yes, you can get 33 hours with water and love

wayneh23
06-27-13, 08:14 PM
I believe not.The guide i use, says its not possible.

knj00
06-27-13, 08:15 PM
Yes, you can get 33 hours with water and love

Try it... I bet you don't. :)

HenryLucky1
06-27-13, 08:26 PM
I believe not.The guide i use, says its not possible.
Where?

Try it... I bet you don't. :)

So, it's already changed?

bmxdad75
06-27-13, 08:30 PM
I bread level 9 light and level 9 athletic and got it the first time. Pretty cool.

scottyhaha
06-27-13, 08:34 PM
I believe not.The guide i use, says its not possible.

Y it's not possible. You have red/white/blue , red and white make pink

knj00
06-27-13, 08:37 PM
Y it's not possible. You have red/white/blue , red and white make pink

Old rules don't appy. One dragon must have red and the other must have white to get Virtue... So, Water+Love= no Virtue but Athletic+Light= possible Virtue.

scottyhaha
06-27-13, 08:39 PM
Old rules don't appy. One dragon must have red and the other must have white to get Virtue... So, Water+Love= no Virtue but Athletic+Light= possible Virtue.

So you tell me it must come from both parents now

knj00
06-27-13, 08:40 PM
So you tell me it must come from both parents now

Yes, some dragons have new rules where one dragon must supply one color and the other dragon the other color.

cassi0916
06-27-13, 08:40 PM
I'm pretty sure the reason it isn't possible is because love can't split into light and red to make pink. Makes sense to me since they are both single elements and usually only combined colors like purple, pink, and black split.

HenryLucky1
06-27-13, 08:43 PM
I'll try that rules on my second account

knj00
06-27-13, 08:46 PM
I'll try that rules on my second account

Ok :)

Back on topic it took forever for me to get this on my main account but got it on my first try on my secondary... O_O

SaphireTheDragon
06-27-13, 09:20 PM
Got it first try with lvl 7 light dragon and lvl 7 athletic.

yukihamasaki0618
06-27-13, 10:21 PM
yeppi:p got it use athelic/light both lvl 10

srsr2525
06-27-13, 11:07 PM
Captain America? :)

mymummy789
06-28-13, 12:46 AM
oh well, the upside of trying for this dragon means that I am going to have at least two small quartz from trading!! Might get my quartz dragon sooner than I thought!!

william1101
06-28-13, 02:33 AM
Combination of dragon and captain America :)

HenryLucky1
06-28-13, 02:50 AM
I'll try for this dragon first, since it's limited, I don't wanna miss this one

kwhales
06-28-13, 03:07 AM
Got it first try with ruby and winter.

belbar22
06-28-13, 04:34 AM
Also got it first try with ruby and winter.

belbar22
06-28-13, 05:01 AM
Oh no!!! Tried the same combo on my 2nd account and have got 33Hrs!!!

ko1953
06-28-13, 05:08 AM
I got mine with leviathan and light 12 hours

Yvie14
06-28-13, 05:10 AM
Oh no!!! Tried the same combo on my 2nd account and have got 33Hrs!!!

The same thing happened to me on my second account; Virtue fail. BUT I got Independence first try on my main account with Athletic/Light. Good luck everyone :)

huanglina13
06-28-13, 05:26 AM
81918191
Captain America

GoldenTiger99
06-28-13, 05:48 AM
Could be a winter, just saying.
LOL nope!😄 It is an Indenpendence dragon!😋

HenryLucky1
06-28-13, 07:16 AM
So, I just try Light and Athletic, got 12 hours. I'm sure it's winter

belbar22
06-28-13, 07:24 AM
So, I just try Light and Athletic, got 12 hours. I'm sure it's winter

Fingers crossed for you. I am waiting to find out whether my 12 hour egg in the making is a winter or an independence, but am hoping that cos I used ruby and winter it is an independence. My first attempt on my other account was an athletic and my second a virtue.

ThunderRemix8
06-28-13, 07:25 AM
It's so gaudy it's beautiful....

belbar22
06-28-13, 07:42 AM
I love it

glitterbabies
06-28-13, 08:36 AM
Oh no!!! Tried the same combo on my 2nd account and have got 33Hrs!!!

LOL I have a 33 hr fail in the den right now.....

queenlynnethethird
06-28-13, 10:35 AM
Just tried Athletic and Light and got an Athletic

VioletBlueIvy2
06-28-13, 10:53 AM
Is independence a limited time dragon?

HenryLucky1
06-28-13, 10:55 AM
Is independence a limited time dragon?

I think...Definitely

jmterao
06-28-13, 11:04 AM
I got it third try, Angel X Athletic

iaweforfun
06-28-13, 01:50 PM
I got a virtue trying for this. Sigh

belbar22
06-28-13, 03:35 PM
My 12 hour independence was actually a winter. And now I am breeding a virtue. Really fed up:(

lilobrat05
06-28-13, 06:44 PM
I got a virtue trying for this. Sigh

I know me too :( that is such a long fail. I got a 5 hr fail now, tried ruby and ice cream pry gonna be love....at least it's not another virtue. I hope I get this dragon I haven't had a new one in weeks :(

HenryLucky1
06-28-13, 07:21 PM
So, I just try Light and Athletic, got 12 hours. I'm sure it's winter

Hmm, it's Independence. Strange, when I hope, the game doesn't give me what I hope, when I surrender, it give me what I want. Lol, I just make a theory!

However, I'm happy! Yay! Just need 3 try for this dragon and 1 try with Light and Athletic!

CMCHASE
06-28-13, 07:26 PM
First try - athletic and light

lollipop_rp
06-28-13, 07:30 PM
Got it
Dream x ruby
First try

maximinidan
06-28-13, 09:42 PM
I can't seem to get this one.
Virtue, magic, love, laserlight, love, magic, laserlight... ��

It feels a little bit weird to try and get this dragon since I'm not from the US... Oh well, I'll keep on trying anyways. ����

luffydragonus
06-28-13, 09:50 PM
same to

ananditocakra
06-28-13, 09:50 PM
fail so far, love, athletic, laserlight, laserlight.... -,-

luffydragonus
06-28-13, 09:51 PM
i got it with atletic x light

aussiejules
06-29-13, 04:39 AM
still trying first attempt i got charm second attempt i got love im gonna keep trying ...

do i put light on right side athletic on right side ??? and whats the best level to have them my light is level 6 and athletic level 8

aussiejules
06-29-13, 04:43 AM
still trying first attempt i got charm second attempt i got love im gonna keep trying ...

do i put light on right side athletic on right side ??? and whats the best level to have them my light is level 6 and athletic level 8

o woooooooooooow i got 2days waite 33 gold for speed up anyone tell me what dragon this is

candylipstee
06-29-13, 04:47 AM
I haven't got the independence dragon yet but here is what got when I put ice cream + ruby = laserlight
I am trying athletic + ruby = I will have to repost when it's done if I don't get impatient and speed it up with gold. Do you all feel they should allow more gifts of gold unfair..

aussiejules
06-29-13, 04:49 AM
I haven't got the independence dragon yet but here is what got when I put ice cream + ruby = laserlight
I am trying athletic + ruby = I will have to repost when it's done if I don't get impatient and speed it up with gold. Do you all feel they should allow more gifts of gold unfair..

i totally agree why were allowed 3 gold a day,if we were allowed more we all would play more !!!!!!

kwhales
06-29-13, 04:53 AM
o woooooooooooow i got 2days waite 33 gold for speed up anyone tell me what dragon this is

virtue

belbar22
06-29-13, 04:58 AM
Hmm, it's Independence. Strange, when I hope, the game doesn't give me what I hope, when I surrender, it give me what I want. Lol, I just make a theory!

However, I'm happy! Yay! Just need 3 try for this dragon and 1 try with Light and Athletic!

Well done.

lilobrat05
06-29-13, 05:41 AM
virtue

Grrr on my 4th try for this dragon got charm first try, virtue, love and now another virtue! Grrr virtue is a long fail time :(

lollipop_rp
06-29-13, 06:25 AM
Hmm, it's Independence. Strange, when I hope, the game doesn't give me what I hope, when I surrender, it give me what I want. Lol, I just make a theory!

However, I'm happy! Yay! Just need 3 try for this dragon and 1 try with Light and Athletic!


Got it
Dream x ruby
First try

I forgot about winter.... I probably got that instead

lollipop_rp
06-29-13, 06:29 AM
Wow it was a independence
{ Happy dance }

lollipop_rp
06-29-13, 06:30 AM
o woooooooooooow i got 2days waite 33 gold for speed up anyone tell me what dragon this is

Virtue
It is a pure pink dragon

davewin
06-29-13, 06:35 AM
First attempt resulted in a 33hr pink fail >_<

yuxiangnyx
06-29-13, 07:01 AM
First try with pearl and right heart! ^^ AWESOME!! HEHEHE!

chiefdragon
06-29-13, 08:24 AM
First try with Light and Athletic. I'm glad. Now I can try for Dino.

Disel8
06-29-13, 12:47 PM
Got a 33 hour fail aswell with light+Athletic.I was wandering if you could get it with a red+light dragon and night as he usually splits into a blue or purple? What you think.

081702
06-29-13, 03:22 PM
Got a 33 hour fail aswell with light+Athletic.I was wandering if you could get it with a red+light dragon and night as he usually splits into a blue or purple? What you think.

In reality you could but you are setting yourself up to have a ton of other fails.

I got this on one account with water/laser light. And another with ruby and dream.

dalexxx
06-29-13, 08:40 PM
got me a 5 hrs fail. Angel + athletic. Would it be possible to get kitsune?

HenryLucky1
06-29-13, 08:45 PM
got me a 5 hrs fail. Angel + athletic. Would it be possible to get kitsune?

Nope! Lol!

scottyhaha
06-29-13, 08:48 PM
got me a 5 hrs fail. Angel + athletic. Would it be possible to get kitsune?

It is love

dalexxx
06-29-13, 11:20 PM
hey HenryLucky1 and scottyhaha, i did got love..

tried ice cream and fire and i got freaking 33 hrs. guess this captain america dragon is set for virtue fails... wont try for this again >.<

HenryLucky1
06-30-13, 12:21 AM
hey HenryLucky1 and scottyhaha, i did got love..

tried ice cream and fire and i got freaking 33 hrs. guess this captain america dragon is set for virtue fails... wont try for this again >.<
If I'm you, I won't give up. Remember Independence is limited
You can try Water and love if you don't want Virtue fails, but 20 hours common Magic fails are waiting

midnightmeerkat
06-30-13, 01:00 AM
If I'm you, I won't give up. Remember Independence is limited
You can try Water and love if you don't want Virtue fails, but 20 hours common Magic fails are waiting

With love you will still get virtue fails

cedkugedchgd
06-30-13, 01:01 AM
If I'm you, I won't give up. Remember Independence is limited
You can try Water and love if you don't want Virtue fails, but 20 hours common Magic fails are waiting

whaaat, stop giving them wrong tips! you can't avoid virtue by breeding love x water, that's not true.

HenryLucky1
06-30-13, 01:45 AM
With love you will still get virtue fails


whaaat, stop giving them wrong tips! you can't avoid virtue by breeding love x water, that's not true.

Knj00 said it. Just try that, he said you won't get Virtue from love and water

dalexxx
06-30-13, 01:45 AM
whaaat, stop giving them wrong tips! you can't avoid virtue by breeding love x water, that's not true.

Think so too cedkudegchgd... 33 hours is just too long. Im quite sure the limited dragons will be back by the same time they were introduced next year. good luck to all who's trying for independence dragy :: )

Pielcanela76
06-30-13, 04:35 AM
I got it with Leviathan and pearl first try.

Pielcanela76
06-30-13, 04:36 AM
I got it first try with Leviathan +Pearl

belbar22
06-30-13, 04:54 AM
I have had a virtue and now a magic fail. Won't be able to try again until tomorrow. Think I will try Leviathan and Pearl next. Would like to know what fails people have had using this combo.

vdubpdx82
06-30-13, 05:42 AM
I used Lvl 10 Fire(RED) & Lvl 7 Winter(WHITE & BLUE) for Red White and Blue got it first try 12 hour breed and incubate time. Good luck hope this helps someone.

wolftiger1234
06-30-13, 06:12 AM
Athletic, laserlight and now another athletic in the den :( been using pearl/athletic so I'm gonna switch it up and try a few combos from this page

mrarfan
06-30-13, 06:17 AM
I just got another Virtue Fail! 33Hrs is too long to wait! But I will keep trying! :D

CuteTali
06-30-13, 10:38 AM
81918191
Captain America

Beautiful design on this dragon and so fitting with the 4th theme too, I just got mine made, I might level it up more, does anyone have the phases pictures for it?

081702
06-30-13, 11:06 AM
Knj00 said it. Just try that, he said you won't get Virtue from love and water


I've gotten virtue from the oddest blends. Anything is possible. I've also gotten a pearl, ruby and topaz from trading laserlight. The rules with DS are that there are no rules, and whichever ones are there makes no sense.

s_lynne
06-30-13, 11:25 AM
Knj00 said it. Just try that, he said you won't get Virtue from love and water

I've gotten 2 Virtues from breeding Love with Water.

Beneath
06-30-13, 11:38 AM
Breeding athletic x light and so far i've got laserlight and virtue :( loooong waiting times...

KimMonroe
06-30-13, 11:56 AM
I try it with athletic and dream and got 12 hours. *finger crossed*

standbg
06-30-13, 12:15 PM
I got it first try with left heart and light

Mandiw30
06-30-13, 12:25 PM
I got mine on the second attempt with athletic x light

traumtaenzerin
06-30-13, 02:47 PM
My 8th try. Love&Water but i only got athletic, winter or magic. :( I have never been lucky with limited dragons. *sigh*

knj00
06-30-13, 03:24 PM
I've gotten virtue from the oddest blends. Anything is possible. I've also gotten a pearl, ruby and topaz from trading laserlight. The rules with DS are that there are no rules, and whichever ones are there makes no sense.

You can get any random color gem from the mystery box no matter what dragon it is... besides common dragons they only give one random gem of one of the colors attributed to the dragon traded.

knj00
06-30-13, 03:35 PM
I've gotten 2 Virtues from breeding Love with Water.

I'm sorry but I highly doubt that, maybe you used something else my mistake. This method has been tested very thoroughly. So unless the breeding rules have changed in the last week to get a Virtue one dragon must provide the Red color while the other dragon provides the White color. So breeding Love + Water will not give a Virtue but breeding Athletic + Light will.

rubyjeen
06-30-13, 04:38 PM
I haven't been on the forum in a few days, but unless they fixed the messed up system that's been created, you can get results of just one parents colors when breeding. Love is light and red which makes pink, so you can get virtue.

rubyjeen
06-30-13, 04:40 PM
I got independence using athletic and light in two or three tries

knj00
06-30-13, 05:02 PM
I haven't been on the forum in a few days, but unless they fixed the messed up system that's been created, you can get results of just one parents colors when breeding. Love is light and red which makes pink, so you can get virtue.

Yes getting dragons from just one parents colors has always been possible but this is a very different rule. Some dragons (most pures since pink) have special rules were one parent must have one color and the other parent the other color. Yes this is something that TL has not done in the past but they are now.

aceblade
06-30-13, 05:27 PM
Any success with Love & Water?

lilobrat05
06-30-13, 06:10 PM
hey HenryLucky1 and scottyhaha, i did got love..

tried ice cream and fire and i got freaking 33 hrs. guess this captain america dragon is set for virtue fails... wont try for this again >.<

I've gotten 3 virtue fails for this dragon already!!!! Grrrr I haven't had a new dragon in weeks and this fail time stinks! 33hrs!!!!grrrt

hubbabubba03
06-30-13, 06:39 PM
i got two magics, one winter, and finally the independence with Water and Love...Just got it today..its in the nest right now..I'm so excited for this one it's so pretty..If you would like to see it ...My ID IS hubbabubba03.

rosewaterlily
06-30-13, 08:32 PM
I got mine with water and love as well. The egg is so pretty!

knj00
06-30-13, 08:35 PM
I got mine with water and love as well. The egg is so pretty!

I think so too. One of those eggs you just wish you could display. :)

s_lynne
06-30-13, 10:11 PM
I'm sorry but I highly doubt that, maybe you used something else my mistake. This method has been tested very thoroughly. So unless the breeding rules have changed in the last week to get a Virtue one dragon must provide the Red color while the other dragon provides the White color. So breeding Love + Water will not give a Virtue but breeding Athletic + Light will.

I didn't use anything else. I honestly got 2 virtues by usin Love with Water. That even happened on my Android (second) account. Maybe it was a glitch but it did happen.

HenryLucky1
06-30-13, 10:54 PM
I'm sorry but I highly doubt that, maybe you used something else my mistake. This method has been tested very thoroughly. So unless the breeding rules have changed in the last week to get a Virtue one dragon must provide the Red color while the other dragon provides the White color. So breeding Love + Water will not give a Virtue but breeding Athletic + Light will.

Can you test Athletic and Air? I wanna see if can I get Magic from that combo?

Oliver118
06-30-13, 11:10 PM
I love this new dragon! Like the star on the egg:cool:

wayneh23
07-01-13, 01:11 AM
Can you test Athletic and Air? I wanna see if can I get Magic from that combo?

No magic henry
Results

Mythic Dragon Rare 12 hours
Firestorm Dragon Common 12 hours
Honeybee Dragon Super Rare 10 hours
Scorpion Dragon Super Rare 13 hours
Athletic Dragon Rare 11 hours
Eagle Dragon Rare 14 hours
Mindvolt Dragon Rare 22 hours
Mist Dragon Common 14 hours
Mirage Dragon Rare 11 hours
Fireworks Dragon Rare 20 hours

HenryLucky1
07-01-13, 02:20 AM
No magic henry
Results

Mythic Dragon Rare 12 hours
Firestorm Dragon Common 12 hours
Honeybee Dragon Super Rare 10 hours
Scorpion Dragon Super Rare 13 hours
Athletic Dragon Rare 11 hours
Eagle Dragon Rare 14 hours
Mindvolt Dragon Rare 22 hours
Mist Dragon Common 14 hours
Mirage Dragon Rare 11 hours
Fireworks Dragon Rare 20 hours

I mean TEST, real test in the game.

PoppiesZ
07-01-13, 02:30 AM
Got it with Dream and Ruby. 2nd try. :)
1st try got Winter.

knj00
07-01-13, 07:36 AM
I mean TEST, real test in the game.

That has been already you should get no magic from that combo.

Rules need re-tested often as TL likes to create new/change the breeding rules but we try and stay on top of it. :)

glitterbabies
07-01-13, 07:37 AM
Got it with Dream and Ruby. 2nd try. :)
1st try got Winter.

I should try Dream and Fire =

I'm on my 2nd Virtue fail using light and athletic :(

HenryLucky1
07-01-13, 07:37 AM
That has been already you should get no magic from that combo.

Rules need re-tested often as TL likes to create new/change the breeding rules but we try and stay on top of it. :)

Okay!!

yayacupcake
07-01-13, 08:07 AM
So far I've used Athletic & Light and got Magic, Love, 3 Athletics and now Laserlight is brewing. Going to try Love + Water next go around see if I have any better luck.

danni7788
07-01-13, 11:08 AM
Got it third try with Water and Virtue- first 2 fails were Bubble and Love. SO excited, I always wanted Bubble.

aceblade
07-01-13, 05:07 PM
Virtue followed by Laserlight fails. Ack.

davewin
07-01-13, 07:19 PM
Got mine with Water + Laserlight.

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/5963/ntb.png

lady_saphira
07-01-13, 08:59 PM
Got it with Tusker & Water...now to focus on fireworks! o_O

Beneath
07-02-13, 12:21 AM
With athletic x light i got 2 laserlights and one virtue so i changed to virtue x water and first fail was love and now i got 12hrs.. i hope it's independence! :)

belbar22
07-02-13, 03:15 AM
Aargh keep being lulled into a false sense of security. All my 12 hours end up in waters

Beneath
07-02-13, 10:25 AM
Noooooo.. it was winter! >_< And now another 12 hrs maybe this is it!

belbar22
07-02-13, 01:23 PM
After yet another winter I now have a magic fail now. Why is this dragon so hard for me to get. I am so sad:(((

wolftiger1234
07-02-13, 02:15 PM
After 3 winters in a row then a laserlight, got my first virtue fail using pearl/leftheart. :( blah...

belbar22
07-02-13, 02:52 PM
After 3 winters in a row then a laserlight, got my first virtue fail using pearl/leftheart. :( blah...

I feel your pain;)

wolftiger1234
07-02-13, 03:47 PM
I feel your pain;)

I mean it's not so bad...can trade them in for quartz which I only need one more large before I can craft the quartz dragon

deamon506
07-02-13, 07:03 PM
I hope this out for a while because I really want it but I'm trying to get fireworks (so many fails)

aceblade
07-02-13, 07:16 PM
Angel + Leviathan resulted in the following for me: Winter, Love, Love, Virtue, Laser, Athletic, Independence!

jallipen
07-02-13, 08:47 PM
I got it 2nd try breeding athletic and light. I was so happy! Now it is epic and looks like a pro, lol

Oliver118
07-02-13, 09:08 PM
Dragon looks cool, but I'm still trying for Kitsune, which I have been trying for for a month.:(

Beneath
07-02-13, 11:43 PM
Oh maaannn another winter and another love >_< everyone else is getting this dragon within three tries or something like that... bohooo why is it so hard for me :D

Disel8
07-03-13, 02:18 AM
Iv had 3 33hour and 2 20hour plus a bunch of others!And I still dont have it.Its bigbad all over again!

JammaB
07-03-13, 02:25 AM
I started out trying with Fire x Winter, but kept getting too many that I already had: Magic, Winter, Laserlight, Virtue, Love, Laserlight, Winter, Magic, Athletic, Magic, Love, Athletic, Magic, Virtue. Then tried Night Elf x Virtue, which gave possibilities of less common dragons. I got Coral, Love, Charm, Mask, Luck, Hypnotic, Luck, Black Swan, Goblin, Bubble, Athletic, & finally Independence! Seven of the twelve tries resulted in new breeds, and only five results were common dragons. YAY! I'll have an Independence dragon for Independence Day!

berto102012
07-03-13, 03:23 AM
Got it with love+sapphire👍

BrandiPitts
07-03-13, 04:25 AM
I will try this one thanks for posting that you use android

aussiejules
07-03-13, 05:14 AM
I haven't got the independence dragon yet but here is what got when I put ice cream + ruby = laserlight
I am trying athletic + ruby = I will have to repost when it's done if I don't get impatient and speed it up with gold. Do you all feel they should allow more gifts of gold unfair..

got it finally third try got it with light and atheletic both level 7

jonathanharker
07-03-13, 10:54 AM
Atheletic + Light has given me 3 winters, 2 loves and... 3 Virtues (Rare my eye!).

aceblade
07-03-13, 11:01 AM
Atheletic + Light has given me 3 winters, 2 loves and... 3 Virtues (Rare my eye!).

Three Virtues?? Ouch.
:S

MeganML84
07-03-13, 11:04 AM
Got this first try with Crusader and Winter. Good luck all.

GDude118
07-03-13, 11:15 AM
2 winters, 3 loves, and 2 virtues for me so far, no independence. :(. Oww well, I will keep trying. On the bright side, atleast I got firework back when it was released so I don't have to try for it.

belbar22
07-03-13, 03:30 PM
Having just put another magic in the nest I am now breeding another athletic. Ho hum....where are you Indy. I need you!!!

Natashanz
07-03-13, 05:41 PM
I got mine with winter/ruby on the first try with that combo...he is quite the cutie isn't he!

hamadrys
07-03-13, 05:52 PM
I love my Independence dragon ! He is a beauty. Got mine with Laserlight and Water, first try.

GCMomOfFour
07-03-13, 06:16 PM
Hello, this is my first post. I have been breeding for Independence all week. I tried Winter6/Fire 7 and got Athletic, WInter, LaserLight, tried Fire8/Winter6 and got Magic. Then I moved on to Water 8/Love8 and got Magic. Next, with Athletic8/Light8 I got Virtue. That is my first Virtue. So, here is my situation. It looks to me like Independence will be removed at Noon Central Time on 7/4. I currently have Athletic/light breeding and they finish later tonight. However, my Virtue will not be finished on the nest until late tomorrow evening. How does that work with the deadline. Noon comes and goes tomorrow.....What if the two are still waiting in the breeding den to put their egg in the nest, can it still be Independence when it goes in there tomorrow night? What if I speed along the Virtue egg and put an Independence on the nest right before the deadline? Will that work? Also, what if I were to speed the egg on the nest along and find out the new one is not Independence and set them to breeding again so they are still breeding at the deadline? Could it then be Independence or must it be done breeding by Noon? Sorry for the lengthy post. I just want to be sure I understand how the deadline works. My Athletic/Light are breeding a 12 hour egg so I know there is a chance.

s_lynne
07-03-13, 08:51 PM
My results while tryin for Independence Dragon

Ruby (Scorch lvl9) IceCream (Coral lvl7)
1. Athletic 11h (Rare)
2. Athletic 11h (Rare)
3. Winter 12h (Common)
4. Winter 12h (Common)
5. Winter 12h (Common)

Dream (Saphir lvl5) Ruby (Scorch lvl9)
1. Athletic 11h (Rare)
2. Love 5h (Common)
3. Love 5h (Common)
4. Magic 20 h (Common)
5. Love 5h (Common)

Ruby (Scorch lvl9) Dream (Saphir lvl5)
1. Love 5h (Common)
2. Independence 12h

doop01
07-03-13, 09:18 PM
Hello, this is my first post. I have been breeding for Independence all week. I tried Winter6/Fire 7 and got Athletic, WInter, LaserLight, tried Fire8/Winter6 and got Magic. Then I moved on to Water 8/Love8 and got Magic. Next, with Athletic8/Light8 I got Virtue. That is my first Virtue. So, here is my situation. It looks to me like Independence will be removed at Noon Central Time on 7/4. I currently have Athletic/light breeding and they finish later tonight. However, my Virtue will not be finished on the nest until late tomorrow evening. How does that work with the deadline. Noon comes and goes tomorrow.....What if the two are still waiting in the breeding den to put their egg in the nest, can it still be Independence when it goes in there tomorrow night? What if I speed along the Virtue egg and put an Independence on the nest right before the deadline? Will that work? Also, what if I were to speed the egg on the nest along and find out the new one is not Independence and set them to breeding again so they are still breeding at the deadline? Could it then be Independence or must it be done breeding by Noon? Sorry for the lengthy post. I just want to be sure I understand how the deadline works. My Athletic/Light are breeding a 12 hour egg so I know there is a chance.
The outcome is determined when the den timer starts, so if it is an Inde in there now, then you would still get it. As long as the breeding has started before the timer runs out, then you can still hatch limited dragons :)

OlkaDragons
07-03-13, 11:57 PM
But Independence was not announced as limited, was it? It is not planned to be removed just now... Am I wrong?

mymummy789
07-04-13, 01:39 AM
fifth virtue *sobs* I refuse to use any more gold on this. If it comes, it comes. This game is rapidly losing the fun element :(

esmeetje1990
07-04-13, 02:11 AM
I think this may be the only dragon I got on my first try. Was trying for a second Night Elf but had both my nests full so a 10 sec Fire fail would have been a waste, so I decided to throw in Love and Water to try for Independence. 12 hours later I put it on the nest and to my surprise it wasn't a Winter! :)

Sumercarefree
07-04-13, 02:34 AM
Ah got the Independence using a lvl 10 Water n Tusker 9.
First try with an Athletic did not work. Athletic n Light gave me an Athletic, which I converted to gems.

mrcherry1
07-04-13, 03:38 AM
Ive Been Tryin Since This Dragon Camme Out! todays The 4th Of July...Forget It For Me,Im Done..Tried Every combo Numerous Times...Happy 4th.

Disel8
07-04-13, 04:20 AM
Just got 12 hour with laserlight and water, can any tell me if water is a possibility! Or is it finally Captain American!

HenryLucky1
07-04-13, 04:27 AM
Happy 4th of July for all who in America!!

Disel8
07-04-13, 04:37 AM
I second That!

belbar22
07-04-13, 05:00 AM
Just got 12 hour with laserlight and water, can any tell me if water is a possibility! Or is it finally Captain American!

All my 12 hours have been winter's. Hope you are luckier than me. Good luck.

mastersander
07-04-13, 05:11 AM
mercury is diamond so all pure collors are obtainable inclusive ligth

Disel8
07-04-13, 08:18 AM
All my 12 hours have been winter's. Hope you are luckier than me. Good luck.

You were right winter.Just put fire with ice-cream and got another 12 hours! Hoping; If not im given up!

Disel8
07-04-13, 10:02 AM
You were right winter.Just put fire with ice-cream and got another 12 hours! Hoping; If not im given up!

Same result Winter! Thats it.Game over!

lollipop_rp
07-04-13, 10:28 AM
What so the goal for this dragon called

Disel8
07-04-13, 11:03 AM
Dose anyone no when this dragon will no longer be available? Cause I need a break from it!

Beneath
07-04-13, 11:03 AM
Wohoooo! At last i got i!! I changed my combo again after too many winter fails... i used winter x virtue and first try with that gave me indie! :) :)

GDude118
07-04-13, 01:16 PM
Finally! I got one! On Independence Day. :) I used dream and fire, got it 4th try with this combo.

lollipop_rp
07-04-13, 03:28 PM
What so the goal for this dragon called

Again, anybody know what the goal is called?

belbar22
07-04-13, 03:43 PM
Again, anybody know what the goal is called?

Patience is a virtue:p It's called Home is the brave. It should be at the top of your list.

Oliver118
07-04-13, 10:33 PM
Patience is a virtue:p It's called Home is the brave. It should be at the top of your list.

You mean Home of the Brave.

mymummy789
07-05-13, 12:37 AM
finally, after 5 virtues and what seems like thousands of athletics I put angel and athletic together and finally have my Independence dragon :)
Now to try for the dino dragons

Disel8
07-05-13, 03:32 PM
Finally got it aswell (Virtue and Winter) Thank God thats over with!

s_lynne
07-06-13, 05:41 PM
I seem to be havin some problems obtaining this dragon on my Android account. No matter what I breed I only get Virtues. Athletic with Light=Virtue, Fire with Winter=Virtue, and every other combo I use results in Virtues. I'm beyond ticked off with all these 33h fails.

kms899
07-06-13, 07:17 PM
Light 4 and Athletic 4 on my 3 try with virtue and winter before it.

funnyrandomness5112
07-06-13, 07:54 PM
I seem to be havin some problems obtaining this dragon on my Android account. No matter what I breed I only get Virtues. Athletic with Light=Virtue, Fire with Winter=Virtue, and every other combo I use results in Virtues. I'm beyond ticked off with all these 33h fails.

Make ire that you have light and red on the same raindrops and then there is no way for a virtue

s_lynne
07-06-13, 11:44 PM
Make ire that you have light and red on the same raindrops and then there is no way for a virtue

Isn't there a possibility of me gettin a Virtue if I bred Virtue with Water or Winter???

beejk
07-07-13, 06:16 AM
Make ire that you have light and red on the same raindrops and then there is no way for a virtue

Thanks for the info,gonna try breeding love and water ,think i am gonna get allot of magic fails but i gues they are better then 33 hours virtue fails:)

yabbadooo
07-07-13, 07:07 AM
Got it first try with crusader and dream. Pure luck, haven't got anything in weeks!

deamon506
07-11-13, 09:04 AM
I've been trying since fireworks was removed and all I've gotten are laserlights, winters, and loves. I've been using water and virtue.

danni7788
07-11-13, 10:20 AM
Isn't there a possibility of me gettin a Virtue if I bred Virtue with Water or Winter???

If you breed virtue and water I don't think you can get it- if you breed virtue and winter you might be able to because virtue could split and the red could combine with the white from winter. I used virtue and water to get mine, got it 3rd try.

deamon506
07-17-13, 08:57 PM
I've spent so much time trying to breed it. I've gotten approximately 15 loves, 12 winters, 5 athletics. Because of this, I will probably not be able to get any of these new dragons coming out. I never finished my stones. I never got the eclipse, and I haven't even thought about trying for the rainbow or the troll.

yayacupcake
07-17-13, 09:02 PM
I've spent so much time trying to breed it. I've gotten approximately 15 loves, 12 winters, 5 athletics. Because of this, I will probably not be able to get any of these new dragons coming out. I never finished my stones. I never got the eclipse, and I haven't even thought about trying for the rainbow or the troll.

I haven't got it yet either... Surprised you haven't got at least 4 or 5 like I have... Got a 12 hour timer here, but last 4 have all been winter, been trying non stop here too...

deamon506
07-17-13, 10:46 PM
I got diamond and gold without trying, and it took less breedings to get 2 crusaders

spree9387
07-17-13, 10:52 PM
I've spent so much time trying to breed it. I've gotten approximately 15 loves, 12 winters, 5 athletics. Because of this, I will probably not be able to get any of these new dragons coming out. I never finished my stones. I never got the eclipse, and I haven't even thought about trying for the rainbow or the troll.

Virtue and Winter worked first try for mine and kids accounts. Best wishes!

kms899
07-18-13, 04:08 AM
light and athletics works for me.

IcePrince918
07-18-13, 09:52 AM
I got it using water and virtue.

Flappydafarmer
07-18-13, 10:15 AM
Yup got it first day with light and athletic..12 hr

dani8411
07-18-13, 11:03 AM
I tried about 4 times love and water, got 3 loves and 1 laserlight...than changed it for athletic and light and got it first try

angelac76
07-19-13, 12:20 AM
Finally got it accident trying for Bubble with Water and Virtue!!

lilobrat05
07-19-13, 02:45 AM
I'm working on this dragon so far I have gotten a winter, love, love and just threw together tusker and water and got 20 hour breed time.......I'm hoping its not magic and ends up being one of the stone dragons since I don't have any of those yet. Then maybe I will get this one on my next try. I want to hurry up and get it before they remove it.

lilobrat05
07-19-13, 03:06 AM
I'm working on this dragon so far I have gotten a winter, love, love and just threw together tusker and water and got 20 hour breed time.......I'm hoping its not magic and ends up being one of the stone dragons since I don't have any of those yet. Then maybe I will get this one on my next try. I want to hurry up and get it before they remove it.

I'm pretty sure I got magic :( so not cool! I dislike the long fail times...however I just got a dawntree as a fail trying for big bad and was excited to see the 26 hour timer because I didn't have it yet. However the longer dragons are a little annoying.

tan5314
07-19-13, 07:17 AM
I got Independance dragon with just the second try (Love+Water). But I was surprised even more when the next dragon combination gave me another independence dragon.
Now I have two of them.

lilobrat05
07-20-13, 05:40 AM
Make ire that you have light and red on the same raindrops and then there is no way for a virtue

This doesn't work. I used love and winter and got virtue. So just because you use a dragon that is red and white on one side doesn't mean it will eliminate your chance or getting a virtue.

yayacupcake
07-21-13, 12:39 PM
Still haven't got this and feel like I won't before it's removed. Tried Love / Laserlight / Tusker & Water multiple times. Athletic & Light a couple times, Virtue & Water 4 or 5 times and still nothing. Have a feeling this will be removed before I get it. Only stopped briefly since release to try for Eclipse ( got Saturnx2 as a "fails" ) then went straight back to Independence.... nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing. This is fun...

wdwjean
07-21-13, 05:31 PM
FINALLY! just got my Independence dragon using Love level 10 on left & Water level 10 on right. Egg is on the nest so I'm sure it's not yet another winter fail this time. Must've tried about every combo I had since it came out & was starting to think after breeding changes started recently that I'd never get it! But here it is FINALLY! Those of you who haven't gotten it yet don't lose hope! I was about to when I got it! ;-)

nikkisauro7
07-21-13, 06:47 PM
This doesn't work. I used love and winter and got virtue. So just because you use a dragon that is red and white on one side doesn't mean it will eliminate your chance or getting a virtue.

you used love and winter, and since love has a red element and winter has a white element, that's where you got the virtue. if you use just love and water then you should not get virtue.

sunkalito
07-21-13, 11:46 PM
you used love and winter, and since love has a red element and winter has a white element, that's where you got the virtue. if you use just love and water then you should not get virtue.

I'm pretty sure I got a virtue using red+white + single element/other hybrid before. Wish I'd jotted the combo down.

J85909266
07-22-13, 11:33 AM
Virtue is a possible fail, no matter what you use.

danni7788
07-22-13, 11:45 AM
Virtue is a possible fail, no matter what you use.

use virtue and water... i think you can't get virtue from that, but might be wrong. I got my independence with that combo

lollipop_rp
07-22-13, 11:51 AM
I got virtue like that before. I got it when I tried for a second diamond.

danni7788
07-22-13, 11:52 AM
I got virtue like that before. I got it when I tried for a second diamond.

do you remember your combo?

J85909266
07-22-13, 12:00 PM
use virtue and water... i think you can't get virtue from that, but might be wrong. I got my independence with that comboYou might be right. I know it's entirely possible to get only colors from one parent and not the other, when breeding, but what I'm not sure of is that when a color splits, both colors can be used without also using the parent. That would mean virtue is always a fail when breeding with virtue, which I don't believe is the case.

nikkisauro7
07-22-13, 05:47 PM
I'm pretty sure I got a virtue using red+white + single element/other hybrid before. Wish I'd jotted the combo down.

Ok good to know. The breeding calculator I have been using shows that virtue isn't a fail from love + water and I have been trying since independence came out using that combo with every possible fail except virtue (and sadly still no independence). Could just be my luck that I haven't gotten the long virtue fail time with that combo yet. I've taken a break for the time being... Just can't seem to get it!

lilobrat05
07-22-13, 06:13 PM
Yay! I bred love with water this morning and got 12 hours had my fingers crossed it would be independence and it was :) so happy I got a new dragon on my birthday! It took along time and a lot of fails for this one but I finally got it ☺

yayacupcake
07-23-13, 06:44 AM
Used Love and Water yesterday and got another 12 hour timer ( think that made 6 ) and it was an Independence dragon. Finally! Now to go for Rainbow, then I can go for some dragons I want.

DeeDeeBird70
07-23-13, 11:35 AM
I got my Independence on the 6th try, with Athletic and Light. Had tried that once before, also Love and Water and Lazerlight and Water. Got 4 Winters and a Magic before getting Indy. So far have tried for Rainbow and Diamond with all fails although I did get a Dawntree from Scarecrow and Light. First try for Gemstone fail at 20 hrs, probably another Island.

cheryllemon
07-23-13, 11:44 AM
I used fire with ice cream and got mine.

Nessa_V
07-23-13, 12:55 PM
This one wasn't difficult for me. Can't remember the combo I used, but I got it on first try. Even got a second one by accident while trying for something else. :eek:

yayacupcake
07-23-13, 01:12 PM
This one wasn't difficult for me. Can't remember the combo I used, but I got it on first try. Even got a second one by accident while trying for something else. :eek:

Bravo... only took me 29 days of purely breeding for this one to get it. Can't remember the last one I got on first or second attempt. Usually results in 2 weeks or trying non-stop, which results in 4 new dragons released while I try for 1.

ThunderRemix8
07-26-13, 06:15 AM
Am I the only one that worries that Independence will leave once July ends? I'm a little nervous, because I stil don't have it.

HenryLucky1
07-26-13, 06:30 AM
No, you're not the only one
I'm pretty sure Independence will leave

inxieq
07-26-13, 06:36 AM
Hey guys I bred lazerlight and water and got an athletic. I then tried for super (not succeeding) and decided to try the combo again and it was independence. My bf got love twice and athletic one but these fail times are not as bud as virtue. Goodluck I am now on mermaid.

HarleyQuinn28
07-26-13, 10:07 AM
Ugh, I keep getting magic fails! I just put love and water in the den and another magic fail. That's 3 in a row! I have been trying mon stop for this since it came out and has been terrible. I've gotten magics, virtues, winters, loves, athletics and laser lights. So super annoying because there are a ton of dragons I don't have.

jetli333
08-09-13, 12:29 AM
Yessssss!!!!! After countless virtue, light, love, laserlight and winter fails I finally just bread my Independence dragon. Feels so good after trying for so long. Thank you all for your suggestions in the different combos.

Water + Love = Independence dragon 4me ツ

mrarfan
08-09-13, 01:41 AM
Hooray! I just got my Independence yesterday! It's in a Light habitat!

Dream & Fire - Independence (12Hrs)

Good Luck! :)

Anyuszko
08-15-13, 03:41 AM
Is it limited?

In the market no, but the quest itself became limited, it shows we have 12 more days to complete. It means, this dragon turns to limited very soon.

maguar
08-15-13, 04:11 AM
Is it limited?

In the market no, but the quest itself became limited, it shows we have 12 more days to complete. It means, this dragon turns to limited very soon.

I've asked for confirmation on this

Anyuszko
08-15-13, 04:26 AM
I've asked for confirmation on this

Thanks, maguar

maguar
08-15-13, 03:40 PM
I've just received confirmation that the independence is now limited. When the timer on the goal expires the dragon will be removed.

lollipop_rp
08-15-13, 03:41 PM
Wow we had a long amount of time for this dragon

madooo911
08-15-13, 04:15 PM
I've got on the dragon with the second try by love and water.