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dragonolic
11-26-12, 01:25 PM
39 attempts, no diamond. Breeding Landworm (Fire, Earth) and Seabreeze (Air, Water) since Nov 4.

By percentage
http://i.imgur.com/hKcHW.png

By number
http://i.imgur.com/CC0gT.png

Rarity over time: 1=Common, 2=Rare, 3=Super Rare, 4=Ultra Rare
http://i.imgur.com/gLuhU.png

http://i.imgur.com/cqhAx.png

http://i.imgur.com/tylCn.png

http://i.imgur.com/Dtb5b.png


This is the only actually interesting result to me. A simple Punnet Square of the parent elements. It results in a nearly 25/25/25/25% breakdown when the "alternate" combinations are substituted in for Fire/Water (which has only 2 dragon options, Athletic or Magic). I don't really think there is any significance to it, just surprised by the neatness of the breakdown, which appears to not be affected by rarity.
http://i.imgur.com/MJkcx.png

Possibly of interest as well, the element breakdown of only the Rares (excluding Magic)
http://i.imgur.com/s0JbI.png

I was intending to breed for one month and then quit the game if I didn't get a diamond. Now I'm kicking around the idea of breeding perhaps until I reach 50 attempts (so, approximately one month) and then performing the same experiment but with Fire/Air versus Water/Earth. I'd also be interested in running Fire/Water vs Air/Earth, but I sold the one Athletic I ever got because I don't like them. Anyway, not sure yet if I'll continue, it's pretty discouraging to have been playing so long and never get a diamond, as many of you know well.

vanillaheaven
11-26-12, 01:36 PM
Wow, the charts are so pretty :) what program did you make them in? I'm also going to breed mostly one pair, and I want to make some pretty charts afterwards, too. I'm sorry that you didn't get a Diamond, though... Strangely enough, I got mine with Firestorm/Island... I used to think that was the most boring pair ever, it didn't seem Diamond-worthy :) don't worry, you'll get there too one day ~~~~

Horntail21
11-26-12, 02:23 PM
Very nice. Thank you for posting your results. I am trying to do this now with Wizard/Fairy hoping for Infinity. My problem is I am too scatterbrained to stick with one pair for more than 4 or 5 attempts. I am missing twenty dragons and its ****ing me not to randomly try for them all. I have to stick with this pair and hopefully knock off Parakeet, Mermaid, Atlantis, Clown, Familiar. and Aurora. It's really my best bet for the majority of the dragons I am missing I guess.

Takiofallen
11-26-12, 02:30 PM
Great job, excellent stat count, just wondering why you went with those 2 dragons? water/fire adds the one extra breeding result that you may not want.

tezcatlo
11-26-12, 02:39 PM
I got wild a couple of times, sold most of them, but I bred a life dragon and then bred a second light dragon with the same two dragons used on the first, then I bred my two life dragons and got a 2nd generation life and bred that with forest and out popped my first rare.

jovanisto
11-26-12, 02:41 PM
Awesome ! I'm such an excel nerd myself I want to start my own ! I need to pick a pair that can yield the most dragons i don't have... I will start by that ;) A cool chart of missing dragons and what elements I need on both sides to maximize the chances of good outcome ;)

salinho
11-26-12, 02:45 PM
So cool! Thanks for this, very interesting :)

dragonolic
11-26-12, 02:46 PM
vanillaheaven - they are just the standard charts made in Excel. maybe i'll try the firestorm/island again- i did it for about a week back in july.

horntail - yeah i get scattered too, i think the longest i've tried the SAME pair before this was a week and a half, always with at least 4 elements to qualify for diamond, but wasn't recording results very well. i figure, if i'm going to quit, i'm going to actually try the same pair for a month, and if i don't get it, then i can have official record of trying.

oh and about missing dragons --- my album shows 13 missing that i have already bred and sold because they're ugly. i should get credit for those!!!

Takio - I went with them because they are both Ultra Rare, and I thought it might increase my chances (obviously, wrong).

texcatlo - how long have you been playing/ what level are you? as you level up and time passes, some of the rarer ones just happen by chance out of pure odds. when you breed at least once a day for five consecutive months, the odds are that you'll get them :p (but not a diamond for me, apparently)

Takiofallen
11-26-12, 02:59 PM
Dragonolic i to wondered if that would make a difference thank for putting that theory to rest. I would like you to also record the time you breed. I have found that it has made a difference for me when breeding the same pair also the side you place the dragon on, but again great job.

dragonolic
11-26-12, 06:28 PM
Sorry, I meant they are both Super rare, not Ultra. Had diamond on the mind :(

What do you mean record the time I breeding? How many days it takes or at what time of day they start (it's hard enough for me to remember to record the types, that level of detail is beyond me).

kasaokc
11-26-12, 06:37 PM
Very nice post. I've been keeping track of my breeding for a while now as well so I found it interesting to see what your results were. I admit I've ventured out from the original pair a bit but for the most part I've kept a trend of the same breeding pair to see what happens.

kasaokc
11-26-12, 06:39 PM
I need to start writing down what time of day I breed. I think that's an interesting theory ... and it's documented in another game I play as valid so why not on a TL game as well. (in case your interested, dragonvale has sun and mooon dragons ... same elements but if you breed after 7pm and before 7am you get moon and after 7am and before 7pm you get sun).

grondai
11-26-12, 07:04 PM
I need to start writing down what time of day I breed. I think that's an interesting theory ... and it's documented in another game I play as valid so why not on a TL game as well. (in case your interested, dragonvale has sun and mooon dragons ... same elements but if you breed after 7pm and before 7am you get moon and after 7am and before 7pm you get sun).

Ugh this will be edited

Takiofallen
11-26-12, 08:12 PM
sorry just saw the post was caught up with jake. By time i mean the time your breeding. 2pm 3pm 5am. it's a theory that keeps paying off for me but i can't run an experiment. I think that TL puts a quota on the amount of ultra rare dragons bred in a day so i made a concise effort on my second account to bred right at TL"s rest time. I bred 2 diamonds in 3 breedings. I tried this on my main account trying to breed infinity but so far no luck.
Sorry, I meant they are both Super rare, not Ultra. Had diamond on the mind :(

What do you mean record the time I breeding? How many days it takes or at what time of day they start (it's hard enough for me to remember to record the types, that level of detail is beyond me).

hali4848
11-26-12, 08:33 PM
OMG...can get a pumpkin with all 4 colours???....Not seeing how this logic works...

Takiofallen
11-26-12, 08:43 PM
if it was still available yes. Under normal breeding circumstances when breeding 2 elements are used. they are chosen at random. After that they are bred and you get one of the dragons in that element combo.
OMG...can get a pumpkin with all 4 colours???....Not seeing how this logic works...

enoch4
11-26-12, 10:22 PM
I love all the data, thanks for sharing! Since I started tracking (about 150 breedings, but not the same pair - I would switch when I got the dragon I wanted) I come out to 78% common, 16% rare, and 6% super rare. I'm continuing to track to see if that holds true for me, or changes under different breeding conditions. I wasn't trying for diamonds during that time, but in the past they have taken between 50 to 117 tries to get.

epipy
11-26-12, 10:26 PM
Lol looks like mine though I have been using firestorm and island both epic. Good luck.

BabyDinosaurRawr
11-27-12, 05:28 AM
Awesome work. I liked seeing your charts and results.
I have not officially started trying for diamond yet, but when i do i would like to record my breeding like this as well!

dragonolic
11-30-12, 09:26 AM
26 days / 50 breeding attempts

Landworm (Super Rare, Level 7) and Seabreeze (Super Rare, Level 9)

http://i.imgur.com/9Uv4y.png

http://i.imgur.com/oDPst.png

http://i.imgur.com/Pe44j.png

Atlantis and Mermaid (Super Rare) were more common than Pumpkin, Wild, and Fairy (Rare)

Magic (Rare) was more common than Island and Mist (Common)

http://i.imgur.com/bQkxW.png

http://i.imgur.com/D2umb.png

MomsHouseofSweets
11-30-12, 08:34 PM
Lol looks like mine though I have been using firestorm and island both epic. Good luck.

I paired Firestorm and Island also. Worked for me.

cut3m0m
12-01-12, 06:28 AM
From I tried, I got my familiar dragon and the other rare ones on fifth attempt of the same pair of dragon of epic level. I checked the element of the intended result first then keep breeding the 2 elements that produce the combo until I get it. When I don't get it yet, i'd sell the unwanted result.