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atlantisonearth
01-17-12, 06:46 PM
[Please note: this is a direct quote from the Wikimedia Association. to view the site of the original message, click here (http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/English_Wikipedia_anti-SOPA_blackout).]

Today, the Wikipedia community announced its decision to black out the English-language Wikipedia for 24 hours, worldwide, beginning at 05:00 UTC on Wednesday, January 18 (you can read the statement from the Wikimedia Foundation here). The blackout is a protest against proposed legislation in the United States ? the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) in the U.S. House of Representatives, and the PROTECT IP Act (PIPA) in the U.S. Senate ? that, if passed, would seriously damage the free and open Internet, including Wikipedia.
This will be the first time the English Wikipedia has ever staged a public protest of this nature, and it?s a decision that wasn?t lightly made. Here?s how it?s been described by the three Wikipedia administrators who formally facilitated the community?s discussion. From the public statement, signed by User:NuclearWarfare, User:Risker and User:Billinghurst:
It is the opinion of the English Wikipedia community that both of these bills, if passed, would be devastating to the free and open web.
Over the course of the past 72 hours, over 1800 Wikipedians have joined together to discuss proposed actions that the community might wish to take against SOPA and PIPA. This is by far the largest level of participation in a community discussion ever seen on Wikipedia, which illustrates the level of concern that Wikipedians feel about this proposed legislation. The overwhelming majority of participants support community action to encourage greater public action in response to these two bills. Of the proposals considered by Wikipedians, those that would result in a "blackout" of the English Wikipedia, in concert with similar blackouts on other websites opposed to SOPA and PIPA, received the strongest support.
On careful review of this discussion, the closing administrators note the broad-based support for action from Wikipedians around the world, not just from within the United States. The primary objection to a global blackout came from those who preferred that the blackout be limited to readers from the United States, with the rest of the world seeing a simple banner notice instead. We also noted that roughly 55% of those supporting a blackout preferred that it be a global one, with many pointing to concerns about similar legislation in other nations.
In making this decision, Wikipedians will be criticized for seeming to abandon neutrality to take a political position. That?s a real, legitimate issue. We want people to trust Wikipedia, not worry that it is trying to propagandize them.
But although Wikipedia?s articles are neutral, its existence is not. As Wikimedia Foundation board member Kat Walsh wrote on one of our mailing lists recently,
We depend on a legal infrastructure that makes it possible for us to operate. And we depend on a legal infrastructure that also allows other sites to host user-contributed material, both information and expression. For the most part, Wikimedia projects are organizing and summarizing and collecting the world?s knowledge. We?re putting it in context, and showing people how to make to sense of it.
But that knowledge has to be published somewhere for anyone to find and use it. Where it can be censored without due process, it hurts the speaker, the public, and Wikimedia. Where you can only speak if you have sufficient resources to fight legal challenges, or if your views are pre-approved by someone who does, the same narrow set of ideas already popular will continue to be all anyone has meaningful access to.
The decision to shut down the English Wikipedia wasn?t made by me; it was made by editors, through a consensus decision-making process. But I support it.
Like Kat and the rest of the Wikimedia Foundation Board, I have increasingly be*** to think of Wikipedia?s public voice, and the goodwill people have for Wikipedia, as a resource that wants to be used for the benefit of the public. Readers trust Wikipedia because they know that despite its faults, Wikipedia?s heart is in the right place. It?s not aiming to monetize their eyeballs or make them believe some particular thing, or sell them a product. Wikipedia has no hidden agenda: it just wants to be helpful.
That?s less true of other sites. Most are commercially motivated: their purpose is to make money. That doesn?t mean they don?t have a desire to make the world a better place ? many do! ? but it does mean that their positions and actions need to be understood in the context of conflicting interests.
My hope is that when Wikipedia shuts down on January 18, people will understand that we?re doing it for our readers. We support everyone?s right to freedom of thought and freedom of expression. We think everyone should have access to educational material on a wide range of subjects, even if they can?t pay for it. We believe in a free and open Internet where information can be shared without impediment. We believe that new proposed laws like SOPA and PIPA, and other similar laws under discussion inside and outside the United States, don?t advance the interests of the general public. You can read a very good list of reasons to oppose SOPA and PIPA here, from the Electronic Frontier Foundation.
Why is this a global action, rather than US-only? And why now, if some American legislators appear to be in tactical retreat on SOPA?
The reality is that we don?t think SOPA is going away, and PIPA is still quite active. Moreover, SOPA and PIPA are just indicators of a much broader problem. All around the world, we?re seeing the development of legislation intended to fight online piracy, and regulate the Internet in other ways, that hurt online freedoms. Our concern extends beyond SOPA and PIPA: they are just part of the problem. We want the Internet to remain free and open, everywhere, for everyone.
Make your voice heard!

On January 18, we hope you?ll agree with us, and will do what you can to make your own voice heard.
Sue Gardner,
Executive Director, Wikimedia Foundation

atlantisonearth
01-17-12, 06:48 PM
There was a typo in my original document title -- I mean Wikimedia Foundation, not Association.

bawpotter
01-18-12, 01:24 PM
This is a scary thing... VERY scary.

Rachael98
01-18-12, 01:53 PM
If Wikipedia's shutting down over it, someone's pretty upset.
I hope something's sorted. [why can't they just add an "x". I don't like using a mobile version on a PC and it's not even my country's law...]

redbites
01-18-12, 01:56 PM
It's back online!

Rachael98
01-18-12, 01:58 PM
It's back online!

Err...no, it's not...:(

sylvie4163
01-18-12, 02:03 PM
I needed to use Wikipedia today.. -______-

Rachael98
01-18-12, 02:05 PM
I needed to use Wikipedia today.. -______-

This (en.m.Wikipedia.org) version should work for you:).

pinkster73
01-18-12, 02:13 PM
I can still access it on my phone

aiyayu
01-18-12, 02:22 PM
use google's cache's version of the webpage. so say you wanna look up pandas, google search panda wikipedia and then instead of clicking the main link, click the cache link if it exsists

aiyayu
01-18-12, 02:25 PM
sorry for the double post but another work around might be to use google translate or a proxy maybe

Rachael98
01-18-12, 02:30 PM
Click the "Learn more" on Wikipedia's blackout page.

Basically, there are a few ways to get past it, and they're very happy for the blackout to be circumvented because they just want to raise awareness rather than remove the service.

The easiest way is to access it via the Mobile site (works on PC too), en.m.Wikipedia.org

redbites
01-18-12, 02:32 PM
Err...no, it's not...:(
It is! I'm using it on my laptop as I type this

Rachael98
01-18-12, 02:38 PM
It is! I'm using it on my laptop as I type this

You are probably using mobile or have disabled Java.
Current images-
Just before the blackout screen (whilst loading):
http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg440/scaled.php?server=440&filename=imageocs.jpg&res=iphone

Once loaded:
http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg15/scaled.php?server=15&filename=imageppt.jpg&res=iphone

Circumventing the lock is OK.
But well and truly down.

iusedtobedigusr
01-18-12, 04:16 PM
Nope, in USA at least 100 more out still out. I can a little agree with copyright, when they release movies In the other R zones on DVD at least 6 months before in US market for same DVD etc. People are impatient and if wanna see a movie and not pay $12 each and $50-100 in snacks, they will Download. And I have seen movies copied and put on a DVD sold all over, They even sell cams from an audience member somewhere. Law was to Protect the Artist but it's sorta-kinda still screws them. The other, Well I like to read and weigh in on my mind what I want to believe. If people read they learn and can make decision I

iusedtobedigusr
01-18-12, 04:17 PM
Dang I wasn't done

iusedtobedigusr
01-18-12, 04:24 PM
PIPA just says that anyone from any Government office can say I wanna see records off His/Her comp .. And I guess every Govt Employee Honest and wont use my personal for their benefit?

WE do need internet laws in USA, But these seem to be for the Few.

xokay
01-18-12, 04:52 PM
If Wikipedia's shutting down over it, someone's pretty upset.
I hope something's sorted. [why can't they just add an "x". I don't like using a mobile version on a PC and it's not even my country's law...]

It's frustrating not being able to x it out (though you can use wikipedia on mobile phones) but they're doing it for a reason. I'm Canadian, but I'm glad they're doing this, because if Wikipedia or any other website has something posted to it that is considered copyright infringement, the entire site can be shut down without warning. That'll affect everyone, not just Americans. ;/

Rachael98
01-18-12, 04:55 PM
It's frustrating not being able to x it out (though you can use wikipedia on mobile phones) but they're doing it for a reason. I'm Canadian, but I'm glad they're doing this, because if Wikipedia or any other website has something posted to it that is considered copyright infringement, the entire site can be shut down without warning. That'll affect everyone, not just Americans. ;/

A load of gaming companies have done it too.

*Hint hint, TL*

Mobile works via PC too:).

redbites
01-18-12, 04:57 PM
A load of gaming companies have done it too.

*Hint hint, TL*

Mobile works via PC too:).
then how will we access the forums!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:p

xokay
01-18-12, 04:58 PM
A load of gaming companies have done it too.


Basically every website ever has if you think about it. Think of GIFs that circulate all over the internet and whatnot. Entire websites can be shut down over things like that if the bills pass.

felicitybliss
01-18-12, 06:19 PM
Basically every website ever has if you think about it. Think of GIFs that circulate all over the internet and whatnot. Entire websites can be shut down over things like that if the bills pass.

Can you please elaborate on how this can occur? I need the dummies version. I was asked for my viewpoint on these and read both bills. However, I have no clue about the lingo---I don't understand DNS servers, redirection, and quite how this is supposed to work. However, I need a reasonably coherent thought and opinion in less than 12 hours in a field completely outside my expertise.....any help is appreciated.

shakiba
01-19-12, 03:13 PM
Yup. i have heard about this. My friends said it workes though. (today)

dalula
01-19-12, 05:30 PM
I heard about this on the news. (ok, maybe the news is useful. :mad:)

sylvie4163
01-19-12, 05:34 PM
My sister flipped out yesterday. She called me and asked 'CAN YOU GET ON WIKIPEDIA, I CAN'T?!"
She always uses it for her homework. :p
So. Glad it's up and working today ;) :D

pinkster73
01-19-12, 07:31 PM
Can you please elaborate on how this can occur? I need the dummies version. I was asked for my viewpoint on these and read both bills. However, I have no clue about the lingo---I don't understand DNS servers, redirection, and quite how this is supposed to work. However, I need a reasonably coherent thought and opinion in less than 12 hours in a field completely outside my expertise.....any help is appreciated.

Apparently not.

felicitybliss
01-19-12, 08:24 PM
Apparently not.

Actually, people were very helpful and sent me PMs to help with the problem. I stayed up all night to prepare. I did okay with my response this morning. I didn't sound like a total nitwit :) :). Many thanks to everyone who sent me information.

pinkster73
01-19-12, 09:26 PM
Actually, people were very helpful and sent me PMs to help with the problem. I stayed up all night to prepare. I did okay with my response this morning. I didn't sound like a total nitwit :) :). Many thanks to everyone who sent me information.

Well there you go. Now we can go back to talking about how we want a pink dress :p

iusedtobedigusr
01-19-12, 09:38 PM
Well there you go. Now we can go back to talking about how we want a pink dress :p

Yep as a MALE, I want the Pink dress and Thigh Highs with 12 inch stiletto Heels, Oops don't have room in my closet. Sorry.

pinkster73
01-19-12, 10:07 PM
Yep as a MALE, I want the Pink dress and Thigh Highs with 12 inch stiletto Heels, Oops don't have room in my closet. Sorry.

To each his own :p