What about android users tl???

[Bahaqueen]

Obviously you ALL are iphone users and must admit I am VEXED at all the features and options you all have. Android users get nothing but the [snip]! For the 2nd day nothing but FC on restaurant story and many many Android users are having the same issue. For someone like myself whom have spent over $700 with their games you'd think TL would give us a pardon and share with Android users the same experience that iphone users have. Tis a bloody shame how Android users have been denied this request. TL NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND THAT NOT ALL PLAYERS EVEN VISIT THE FORUMS therefore you are not getting a true reflection of ALL of your customer base & the concerns that we have. When will TL show Droid users some love????:mad:

[pinkster73]

Not everyone is an ios user. There are many android users here, myself included. There's many threads regarding the issues you brought up. Try searching the word Android for some interesting reading.

[Bahaqueen]

Thanks me dear! I do love TL ya know....just tired of blatant disregard ya know :) searching now

[pinkster73]

I posted 2 links on your wall

[XxjoskexX]

I'm also using android. My father is using his ipad for this game and he has great things that he can do. But I can't do the things he can do. I also want the updates and al of the other things he can do.
He has badges to collect we don't. he has new aplications we don't. I need to say that I don't like that. TL doesn't think of his players on android. Where are we standing in the world of TL. When do they think of us???

[Cutie4life900]

I completly agree. Im an.android.user as well. It's completly unfair, and.it feels.like.they could careless about the android users. They favor the.iphone users I.suppose and im sick of it!

[Mindslicer]

I agree with this thread. But I don't think this thread will do us any good as there has been tons of other posts about the exact same thing.

[ariesblu]

I agree with this thread. But I don't think this thread will do us any good as there has been tons of other posts about the exact same thing.
The thing is, I think people continue to create these kinds of threads for reasons being that it is still a huge issue, and that not many moderators actually come and comment. Most of the time it's just to edit something.

[ariesblu]

I agree with the thread, by the way.

[nmishii]

I am an Android user and also agree with this thread.

[queenrocks77]

I haven't spent 700 but I've spent well over 100 and I dont have a sushi bar or badges or any of the amazing things that iusers have. And I feel as though that's rubbed in my face when I send a neighbor a motor or a slab of meat for something that I dont even understand because I dont have these appliances or whatever you need a slab of beef for!
I understand that android and idevices are two completely different platforms but perhaps tl could work on these updates simultaneously so that they can be released to both platforms at the same time. We android users work just as hard on our restuarants/bakeries/nightclubs and spend REAL money on them because we believe tl has a great product! We've been patient and we dont even have appliancesat iusers got back in the summer fall? Its been so long I dont remember. Well I guess I've spoken my peace for all the good it'll do. All I can say is if I log on here someday and learn the idevices are able to advance beyond level 96 and we are still stuck at 96 with no sushi bar or lemonade stand (whatever they have over in iworld) I will scream and probably delete my games. Actually I probably wont. But I will remain bitter. :rolleyes:

[nmishii]

Does any TL employee plan on answering questions or commenting? Or do they just come here to edit posts?

I'd like to know:
1) will Android get the holiday quests in 2011?
2) if there are no plans to give Androids quests, can we get the constructables and goal items in our store, cookbook, etc. Can the purchase be with coins since they don't appear to be requiring gems in the holiday versions?

[pinkster73]

Yes I need the quests or whatever they are so I can get a penguin gnome

[truefangz]

The thing is, I think people continue to create these kinds of threads for reasons being that it is still a huge issue, and that not many moderators actually come and comment. Most of the time it's just to edit something.

Like this thread for example.

Way to go TL. Run from conflict and shine on to your iUSERS. I remember playing RS on my droid before it was even possible for us to customize our floors and walls. Anyone remember those crummy days? Well guess what?- I've kept playing RS all this time, and still am quite dissapointed that to this day, we're still getting screwed.

How much money has TL made from me in the past?- a very generous amount. How much money has TL made from me recently?- NONE. And it will stay this way until you guys can quit screwing around with new features for iPRODUCTS and brind up Android as equals.

[tammybfarm]

I have spent well over $1000 on my games but I play 4 TL games. I`m on Android with a HTC EVO and I agree that its unfair to us. It has gotten ridiculous !!

[amygdane]

It's about money! When they give a lame excuse about launguage being different but similar and blah blah...there right. They can release on both platforms it's not that hard or time consuming. But thats not the reason why we don't get the same game content. It's MONEY! In a previous comment by one of their developers they admit they use "data" to determine when and how to release items. In other words to maximize $ based on target demo data. Sorry to ramble but this makes me mad.

[kmccusker]

Android device here also. And no plans to switch to an iDevice. Ever.
I haven't been here long and havent spent nearly the amount of money that others here have stated, but I've put a lot of time and energy into my restaurant, and money as well.
Given that my husband is a communications specialist for the United States Army, I can say with confidence that even though the "languages" used for the two devices are different, it's entirely within the realm of possibility that TL develop, test and release updates for both devices at the same time. If they keep up with this same pattern of favoritism, I have a feeling the Android users will start dropping like flies. And Sushi Bar or no Sushi Bar, the loss in profit could be substantial. I enjoy the game, but there are plenty of other games out there on the Android Market that are just as entertaining, if not moreso (depending on your tastes). If they can't manage to pull something out of their hats in the next update or two, I guess that'll be my sign that it's time to move along. *shrug*

[toesrus]

I agree. This has gone beyond ridiculous.

Why did TL ever release their games to the Droid platform? The game is very fun, but a lot less fun now that there are several new features that are lacking.

[Faufiffon]

I spent money in RS too. And I agree with this thread too.

[sunnyDreams]

They took a poll here on the forum and 99.9% agreed with you.
Things have gotten better, but it's not equal yet.

[pinkster73]

They took a poll here on the forum and 99.9% agreed with you.
Things have gotten better, but it's not equal yet.

Gotten better? The disparity between platforms is bigger then its ever been.

[nmishii]

GM, your quote below is from 5 weeks ago.

I am pretty pleased with the weekly content received on Monday. But its a very small subset of what I've seen released in the last week to iOS. iOS received a bunch of things; I do not consider what Android received to be considered a bunch and overall I am not pretty pleased.

Is this it for the year? Have you completed releasing the bunch of things that should make all your users pretty pleased? Because if so, you (TL) failed.

If not, can you at least tell us what else Androids may see released in the very near future?


...These features are not able to be made overnight; this is a very busy time of year for our company, and we are working on a bunch of things that should make all of our users pretty pleased...

[julia3032]

I'm sorry you guys don't have the same content, but c'mon now. When these games were being developed for the IOS platform (the only platform in town, btw, at the time) there was no Droid. It may be ignorance on my part, but I don't see Droid as a big gaming platform, certainly not in the beginning. It will take time. A lot of developers that were trying to develop for Droid have stopped because it IS complicated, in part because of all the different phones that use Droid. IOS only has 1 phone. That simplfies things enormously. The reason TL started offering their games for the Droid platform? Because Droid users would come on here and scream "When are you going to make this for DROID!" You asked for it, you got it. TL is not exactly the most scrupulous gaming company. It's not surprising they took advantage of the demand and rushed to supply an product which is inferior. Kinda what they do to every IOS user with every buggy update! So be careful what you wish/ask for.

[nmishii]

I'm sorry you guys don't have the same content, but c'mon now. When these games were being developed for the IOS platform (the only platform in town, btw, at the time) there was no Droid. It may be ignorance on my part, but I don't see Droid as a big gaming platform, certainly not in the beginning. It will take time. A lot of developers that were trying to develop for Droid have stopped because it IS complicated, in part because of all the different phones that use Droid. IOS only has 1 phone. That simplfies things enormously. The reason TL started offering their games for the Droid platform? Because Droid users would come on here and scream "When are you going to make this for DROID!" You asked for it, you got it. TL is not exactly the most scrupulous gaming company. It's not surprising they took advantage of the demand and rushed to supply an product which is inferior. Kinda what they do to every IOS user with every buggy update! So be careful what you wish/ask for.

Yes, you are correct. It is ignorance on your part. For all your comments.

[julia3032]

Well, if I were a big gamer, I would not choose a Droid device as my principle portable gaming device. So if gaming is so important, I wonder why you chose Droid to begin with. Seems like ignorance is a 2-way street.

[pinkster73]

I'm sorry you guys don't have the same content, but c'mon now. When these games were being developed for the IOS platform (the only platform in town, btw, at the time) there was no Droid. It may be ignorance on my part, but I don't see Droid as a big gaming platform, certainly not in the beginning. It will take time. A lot of developers that were trying to develop for Droid have stopped because it IS complicated, in part because of all the different phones that use Droid. IOS only has 1 phone. That simplfies things enormously. The reason TL started offering their games for the Droid platform? Because Droid users would come on here and scream "When are you going to make this for DROID!" You asked for it, you got it. TL is not exactly the most scrupulous gaming company. It's not surprising they took advantage of the demand and rushed to supply an product which is inferior. Kinda what they do to every IOS user with every buggy update! So be careful what you wish/ask for.

Actually as of a few months ago, the amount of Android platform users overtook the number of ios platform users. You should read up about it.

[julia3032]

Actually as of a few months ago, the amount of Android platform users overtook the number of ios platform users. You should read up about it.

So, are you saying there are a lot of games for Droid or just more Droid users? It is 2 separate issues.

[nmishii]

Well, if I were a big gamer, I would not choose a Droid device as my principle portable gaming device. So if gaming is so important, I wonder why you chose Droid to begin with. Seems like ignorance is a 2-way street.

I chose my device because it was the best 4G phone that my carrier provided at the time. iPhones had been out on the market for quite a while, although not my choice. I have not considered purchasing an iPod or iPad. Personal preference. I have nothing against iDevices.

I did not chose my phone because I needed a gaming device. At the time I chose my device, TL did not have games available for Android.

Knowing what I know now, I still would have made the same phone choice I had made when I got my phone. I am eligible for a new phone, and when I looked at phones last week, was only considering Android devices.

I still believe ignorance in this case is a one way street, and I am not on that street.

[Faufiffon]

Well, if I were a big gamer, I would not choose a Droid device as my principle portable gaming device. So if gaming is so important, I wonder why you chose Droid to begin with. Seems like ignorance is a 2-way street.

No Julia I don't see any 2 way street in this thread. Just a large highway and it's you. No disrespect, just make some google searches and you'll see you're wrong.

[pinkster73]

Nom nom nom

http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i344/pinkster73/images-7.jpg

[sunnyDreams]

If a game crashes on my iPad only the app crashes. The iPad still works.
If a TL game crashes on my droid it crashes the whole phone & makes it repeatedly reboot.
My phone is a great phone & has tons of wonderful features, but the iPad is better for the
games I have played. I know what the differences are between the two devices. I am with you
asking for equality.

[pinkster73]

If a game crashes on my iPad only the app crashes. The iPad still works.
If a TL game crashes on my droid it crashes the whole phone & makes it repeatedly reboot.
My phone is a great phone & has tons of wonderful features, but the iPad is better for the
games I have played. I know what the differences are between the two devices. I am with you
asking for equality.

That sounds like it might be an issue with your phone. Is your phone an HTC desire?

[felicitybliss]

I'm sorry you guys don't have the same content, but c'mon now. When these games were being developed for the IOS platform (the only platform in town, btw, at the time) there was no Droid. It may be ignorance on my part, but I don't see Droid as a big gaming platform, certainly not in the beginning. It will take time. A lot of developers that were trying to develop for Droid have stopped because it IS complicated, in part because of all the different phones that use Droid. IOS only has 1 phone. That simplfies things enormously. The reason TL started offering their games for the Droid platform? Because Droid users would come on here and scream "When are you going to make this for DROID!" You asked for it, you got it. TL is not exactly the most scrupulous gaming company. It's not surprising they took advantage of the demand and rushed to supply an product which is inferior. Kinda what they do to every IOS user with every buggy update! So be careful what you wish/ask for.

Wow, this is filled with misinformation. Android started in 2003 and was purchased by google in 2005 with the goal of an open platform. The first iPhone with IOS premiered June 29, 2007. Android OS was released November 25, 2007 with the support of about 35 major companies. The first android phone came out in october 2008. An additional 15 companies decided to support android in 2008 as well. The support for android has grown exponentially during the last three years and has the larger market share (not a fair comparison as there are few iOS devices made by one company vs hundreds of android products made by many different companies).

Apple met early success with apps due to the highly developed iTunes store. Android has had growing pains to capture the economic side in its app market.

Regardless, if a company decides to enter an OS market with a cross platform game, then it should be fully prepared to meet demand without inferior products or excuses.

[julia3032]

I don't understand all the hostility there is toward I devices...really what is your problem? I don't care what a person chooses for a phone or other device. I am simply tired of feeling attacked as if IOS users have anything to do with TL's bad play. They disrespect all of us as customers IMO. They are disrespecting you a little more, but it's not our fault. If there are more Droid users than IOS users I have to wonder why then is there not more content for Droid. At least you all are saying that there are more Droid users. Then I guess there must be a ton of games out there who value Droid users, so it begs the question..what are you doing here?

[3squares]

I still believe ignorance in this case is a one way street, and I am not on that street.

Wow, Flame On! This is the second personal attack you've made in this thread. Very rude.

[sunnyDreams]

That sounds like it might be an issue with your phone. Is your phone an HTC desire?
No it's an HTC Evo and normally problem free.

[felicitybliss]

I don't understand all the hostility there is toward I devices...really what is your problem? I don't care what a person chooses for a phone or other device. I am simply tired of feeling attacked as if IOS users have anything to do with TL's bad play. They disrespect all of us as customers IMO. They are disrespecting you a little more, but it's not our fault. If there are more Droid users than IOS users I have to wonder why then is there not more content for Droid. At least you all are saying that there are more Droid users. Then I guess there must be a ton of games out there who value Droid users, so it begs the question..what are you doing here?

I do not agree with you. IMO! No one has shown disrespect towards IOS users. IMO! No one is blaming or attacking iOS users. The only hostility i have seen recently is from these types of flaming messages. I think the replies have been quite respectful towards you. On another forum, I am sure the replies would have been quite harsh.

People are simply having a conversation discussing the lack of parity in a supposed cross platform game. It is done respectfully as android users deserve the opportunity to raise concerns regarding TL products.

[julia3032]

Wow, this is filled with misinformation. Android started in 2003 and was purchased by google in 2005 with the goal of an open platform. The first iPhone with IOS premiered June 29, 2007. Android OS was released November 25, 2007 with the support of about 35 major companies. The first android phone came out in october 2008. An additional 15 companies decided to support android in 2008 as well. The support for android has grown exponentially during the last three years and has the larger market share (not a fair comparison as there are few iOS devices made by one company vs hundreds of android products made by many different companies).

Apple met early success with apps due to the highly developed iTunes store. Android has had growing pains to capture the economic side in its app market.

Regardless, if a company decides to enter an OS market with a cross platform game, then it should be fully prepared to meet demand without inferior products or excuses.

My apologies, but it seems to be a question more of terminology here....forgive the term IOS...I simply decided to use it since it is the newest interface. You basically upheld my point in that Apple developed the app process for the phone platform (There's an app for that). Apple made the first smartphone. Apple has been the innovator for these products. Everyone else is coming along after...that's my point. I'm not trying to excuse TL's bad behavior. IMO they have the worst ethics in the business. But I also play many other games which do not cross platform.

[pinkster73]

I don't understand all the hostility there is toward I devices...really what is your problem? I don't care what a person chooses for a phone or other device. I am simply tired of feeling attacked as if IOS users have anything to do with TL's bad play. They disrespect all of us as customers IMO. They are disrespecting you a little more, but it's not our fault. If there are more Droid users than IOS users I have to wonder why then is there not more content for Droid. At least you all are saying that there are more Droid users. Then I guess there must be a ton of games out there who value Droid users, so it begs the question..what are you doing here?

Honestly there is no hostility towards ios devices here. One issue is that Android are only allowed to vent their frustrations on select threads here, then you post "stop whining" on those threads. This could explain some of the reactions.

Maybe try a more understanding approach. Everyone is entitled to express their frustrations, without being belittled by people who say "buy an idevice". If you don't want to hear Android users express their desire for platform parity, simply avoid those threads.

Hope this helps

[pinkster73]

No it's an HTC Evo and normally problem free.

Ah ok. The desire has had reported issues with the crashing and rebooting issue. That's what I have but I haven't had that problem.

[felicitybliss]

Wow, Flame On! This is the second personal attack you've made in this thread. Very rude.

I disagree with you. I thought it was an entirely appropriate response. I think my definition of a personal attack is very different--if this is considered one.

[sunnyDreams]

I think the replies have been quite respectful towards you.


Did you read ALL the posts?

[pinkster73]

No one liked my picture? Tee hee

[julia3032]

I do not agree with you. IMO! No one has shown disrespect towards IOS users. IMO! No one is blaming or attacking iOS users. The only hostility i have seen recently is from these types of flaming messages. I think the replies have been quite respectful towards you. On another forum, I am sure the replies would have been quite harsh.

People are simply having a conversation discussing the lack of parity in a supposed cross platform game. It is done respectfully as android users deserve the opportunity to raise concerns regarding TL products.

Since you have not had my experiences nor read what I have read, nor seen the language and tone of the posts I have seen, I don't expect that you would. But I feel the way I do for a reason. It's not just directed at TL. The way things are phrased by certain ppl here, does not feel like just complaints against TL. I'm not flaming anyone. We all have our complaints against them. We all have the right to voice our complaints. But there has been some nasty behavior lately which is totally unwarranted.

[julia3032]

Thank you...This is what I'm talking about. There are a few more and not just in this thread.

[felicitybliss]

My apologies, but it seems to be a question more of terminology here....forgive the term IOS...I simply decided to use it since it is the newest interface. You basically upheld my point in that Apple developed the app process for the phone platform (There's an app for that). Apple made the first smartphone. Apple has been the innovator for these products. Everyone else is coming along after...that's my point. I'm not trying to excuse TL's bad behavior. IMO they have the worst ethics in the business. But I also play many other games which do not cross platform.

I think you might want to read a little about the evolution of android and iOS. The first smartphone came out in 1992--not by apple. I believe the first touchscreen came out in 2000. The first smartphone with open platform was done on th Symbian OS, which is the worlds leading OS for these product types.

To claim that apple innovated this type of product is completely false. They simply jumped on the bandwagon and created a different product. Many other companies were trailblazers in the smartphone evolution.

[julia3032]

I didn't realize that you were limited to certain threads. Is there a separate Droid forum that I have inadvertently wandered into? Because I see these kinds of threads all over the place. How do you know which threads you are allowed to post on? Just that alone would upset me. How would I know that those are the only threads you are allowed to post on??? Seems to me that on issues such as the update or the goals, Android users will invariably start complaining that they never even got those things. So were is it you are not allowed to post?

[pinkster73]

I didn't realize that you were limited to certain threads. Is there a separate Droid forum that I have inadvertently wandered into? Because I see these kinds of threads all over the place. How do you know which threads you are allowed to post on? Just that alone would upset me. How would I know that those are the only threads you are allowed to post on??? Seems to me that on issues such as the update or the goals, Android users will invariably start complaining that they never even got those things. So were is it you are not allowed to post?

There used to be a separate Droid forum but they merged it to this one. It's not an official rule of where we can post, but it has been an ongoing issue. Hold on I will get a link

[pinkster73]

This might help explain things

http://forums.teamlava.com/showthread.php?18709-Android-Feature-Parity-Discussions

[felicitybliss]

Did you read ALL the posts?

Absolutely, it is quite mild, very tame. On other boards, there would have been name calling and terrible, terrible exchanges. Quite frankly, someone trying to claim that iOS is better (paraphrase) and android users should just take whatever crumbs are leftover should be called to task.

[nmishii]

Wow, Flame On! This is the second personal attack you've made in this thread. Very rude.

I didn't think the comments were bad.

This is the 4th thread this month with Android in the title with posts like this from the same person.

[3squares]

I disagree with you. I thought it was an entirely appropriate response. I think my definition of a personal attack is very different--if this is considered one.

So, calling someone ignorant is NOT a personal attack?

[julia3032]

This might help explain things

http://forums.teamlava.com/showthread.php?18709-Android-Feature-Parity-Discussions

Okay pinkster, I see where you are coming from. I didn't realize at the time that was an "Android" thread. I see I was misunderstood on a few points. When I referred to superior technology, I was NOT referring to IOS/Android. I was referring to Apple/Windows. The point I was making was when Apple was a new company Mac users did not have access to a lot of software that was available for Windows users. It took years....but Mac was a superior interface compared to Windows. I was only saying that I chose that knowing I wouldn't have access to a lot of things that Windows users had. I was comparing the experience...not the technology. I have no idea whether Droid is superior to IOS or not, nor do I care. It rests largely on what you are looking for in a smartphone and what kinds of features most interest you. I apologize for coming into your area and disrespecting Android users, if that is what you feel I did. It's just somewhat tiresome to constantly see these complaints, no matter what the issue is. I DO sympathize with you. At the same time, the tone of things gets a bit much sometimes. There are so many problems, especially now, TL isn't giving much service to any of us.

[pinkster73]

So, calling someone ignorant is NOT a personal attack?

No. Ignorant means not well informed about an issue. If someone is ignorant about something, then they're ignorant. I'm ignorant about certain things, everybody is.

[julia3032]

First of all, you are mistaken. I never said that IOS is better...or that you should just take whatever crumbs are left. You need to read up yourself.

[nmishii]

So, calling someone ignorant is NOT a personal attack?

I was agreeing with her when she said it may be ignorance on her part. And in the second I was disagreeing that there was ignorance on my street.

[julia3032]

I was agreeing with her when she said it may be ignorance on her part. And in the second I was disagreeing that there was ignorance on my street.

Oh don't short change yourself! That was nicely done...only according to felicity, everyone is ignorant about something.

[3squares]

Yes, you are correct. It is ignorance on your part. For all your comments.


No. Ignorant means not well informed about an issue. If someone is ignorant about something, then they're ignorant. I'm ignorant about certain things, everybody is.

No, "ignorant" has multiple meanings, and is synonymous with "illiterate", "uneducated", and "simple". I'm sorry, pinkster, but the subtext in nmishii's comments here is, "you're stupid and not worth debating".

It is a personal attack.

[pinkster73]

Okay pinkster, I see where you are coming from. I didn't realize at the time that was an "Android" thread. I see I was misunderstood on a few points. When I referred to superior technology, I was NOT referring to IOS/Android. I was referring to Apple/Windows. The point I was making was when Apple was a new company Mac users did not have access to a lot of software that was available for Windows users. It took years....but Mac was a superior interface compared to Windows. I was only saying that I chose that knowing I wouldn't have access to a lot of things that Windows users had. I was comparing the experience...not the technology. I have no idea whether Droid is superior to IOS or not, nor do I care. It rests largely on what you are looking for in a smartphone and what kinds of features most interest you. I apologize for coming into your area and disrespecting Android users, if that is what you feel I did. It's just somewhat tiresome to constantly see these complaints, no matter what the issue is. I DO sympathize with you. At the same time, the tone of things gets a bit much sometimes. There are so many problems, especially now, TL isn't giving much service to any of us.

No worries.

For some people, myself included, we got our devices not knowing much about that kind of stuff. I got this phone because I liked how the buttons squished. Seriously. Then you start playing games, getting apps etc. The TL games are cross platform, so people start playing them expecting things to be pretty much the same as the other players. It's hard to see players around me having so many more features then are available to me. I've already spent way too much real money to want to stop playing, and getting a new device isn't wb option.

So for me, the best option is to push to have the options that other players have.

[pinkster73]

Edit: an, not wb

Ps Im the one who said everyone is ignorant about something, which is true. For example, I'm ignorant about baseball.

[nmishii]

No, "ignorant" has multiple meanings, and is synonymous with "illiterate", "uneducated", and "simple". I'm sorry, pinkster, but the subtext in nmishii's comments here is, "you're stupid and not worth debating".

It is a personal attack.

When I use the word ignorant, it means uninformed. I think that is the popular definition and the definition in the context of this thread. And I think that is what Julia's definition was because I don't think she was calling herself stupid either.

[julia3032]

No worries.

For some people, myself included, we got our devices not knowing much about that kind of stuff. I got this phone because I liked how the buttons squished. Seriously. Then you start playing games, getting apps etc. The TL games are cross platform, so people start playing them expecting things to be pretty much the same as the other players. It's hard to see players around me having so many more features then are available to me. I've already spent way too much real money to want to stop playing, and getting a new device isn't wb option.

So for me, the best option is to push to have the options that other players have.

I don't blame you at all for that. I would feel the same in your shoes. I stopped playing these games for about 4 or 5 months because of all the gem traps and other issues. At that time we weren't getting any updates at all. I was the one always bringing these things up (and a few others). After awhile it wasn't worth my time, so I found other games to play. Then I ran into a friend who said things had improved (but some things never change!) so I came back. I do feel you should have all the same things as well. I am thinking of getting an IPad for myself because the phone screens are so small...but here we find out that IPad users don't even have the goals! There's always going to be something wrong somewhere where TL is involved.

[sunnyDreams]

These games are designed for us to visit our neighbors.
And when we do we see cute things that aren't available to everyone.
This happens on both devices.

TL equality in all offers and updates would make your customers a lot happier.

[julia3032]

When I use the word ignorant, it means uninformed. I think that is the popular definition and the definition in the context of this thread. And I think that is what Julia's definition was because I don't think she was calling herself stupid either.

I wasn't calling myself stupid, but you definitely were. I'm sorry you are offended. It wasn't my intention, although it must seem so to you. I apologize. Why don't we call a truce?

[nmishii]

I wasn't calling myself stupid, but you definitely were. I'm sorry you are offended. It wasn't my intention, although it must seem so to you. I apologize. Why don't we call a truce?

I wasn't calling you stupid. I'm sorry if that's how it was interpreted.

I also apologize. Truce. All threads.

[julia3032]

I wasn't calling you stupid. I'm sorry if that's how it was interpreted.

I also apologize. Truce. All threads.

Cool. Want to be neighbors?

[pinkster73]

Awww group hug time!

[julia3032]

Awww group hug time!

Hug...ROFL!

[pinkster73]

I don't blame you at all for that. I would feel the same in your shoes. I stopped playing these games for about 4 or 5 months because of all the gem traps and other issues. At that time we weren't getting any updates at all. I was the one always bringing these things up (and a few others). After awhile it wasn't worth my time, so I found other games to play. Then I ran into a friend who said things had improved (but some things never change!) so I came back. I do feel you should have all the same things as well. I am thinking of getting an IPad for myself because the phone screens are so small...but here we find out that IPad users don't even have the goals! There's always going to be something wrong somewhere where TL is involved.

Get an iPad then start an "iPad parity discussions thread" ha ha

[nmishii]

Cool. Want to be neighbors?

Okay. I play RS, BS, Farm. On Farm if you have crops from Christmas goals I cannot see or water them.

[pinkster73]

Okay. I play RS, BS, Farm. On Farm if you have crops from Christmas goals I cannot see or water them.

Oh SNAP. (As my son would say)

[driftboutique]

Actually as of a few months ago, the amount of Android platform users overtook the number of ios platform users. You should read up about it.

Do you have a link to this? I'm seeing info about app downloads and ad impressions being higher on Android, but nothing on Android surpassing iOS in terms of OS market share. Thanks!

[pinkster73]

Do you have a link to this? I'm seeing info about app downloads and ad impressions being higher on Android, but nothing on Android surpassing iOS in terms of OS market share. Thanks!

Oh no I've been called out! I made it up ha ha. I was hoping no one would look (looks embarrassed)

[julia3032]

Okay. I play RS, BS, Farm. On Farm if you have crops from Christmas goals I cannot see or water them.

I only play BS and RS. I'll invite you. I do try to be a good neighbor. I have considerably less to say when I'm gifting you! LOL.

[julia3032]

To be honest, I don't even really care about the goals right now. They are more of a pain than they are worth. Especially if it is true, as i'm hearing, that it can't be completed without gems. This game steals enough gems from me. I'm not spending any to unlock a recipe.

[julia3032]

Oh no I've been called out! I made it up ha ha. I was hoping no one would look (looks embarrassed)

OMG.....tooo funny! You made it up???? ROFL!

[pinkster73]

OMG.....tooo funny! You made it up???? ROFL!

I did ha ha. It's getting closer but ios is something like 33% and Android is 21%. The rest are others. THAT I didn't make up. Geez, someone had to go and look :p

[pinkster73]

At least I can admit it if questioned. Does that count for something? Ha ha

[driftboutique]

At least I can admit it if questioned. Does that count for something? Ha ha

LOL! You had me :D

[shakiba]

The thing is, I think people continue to create these kinds of threads for reasons being that it is still a huge issue, and that not many moderators actually come and comment. Most of the time it's just to edit something.

True. I agree!

[pinkster73]

Here's smartphone market share as of may 2011. But it doesn't include tablets, which ios ios has a 66% share in. This is not made up ha ha

http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i344/pinkster73/android_ios_market_share_2011-smalljpgpagespeedceVBNfyNyE1e.jpg

[driftboutique]

Yeah, Android is definitely growing and will continue to grow in market share of smartphones. I still think Windows Phone 7 is a game changer but it will take a while. It also remains to be seen what will happen to RIM's market share. I really think they are out of the race and have only hung on this long because so many people are contractually obligated to use BlackBerry devices for work.

BTW, that graph also doesn't include iPods, which make up a good chunk of iOS devices, especially among the kiddies.

[queenrocks77]

I don't understand all the hostility there is toward I devices...really what is your problem? I don't care what a person chooses for a phone or other device. I am simply tired of feeling attacked as if IOS users have anything to do with TL's bad play. They disrespect all of us as customers IMO. They are disrespecting you a little more, but it's not our fault. If there are more Droid users than IOS users I have to wonder why then is there not more content for Droid. At least you all are saying that there are more Droid users. Then I guess there must be a ton of games out there who value Droid users, so it begs the question..what are you doing here?
No no no. You misunderstand the point of this thread and others like it. We are NOT directing any hostility towards idevices or idevice users. W e are upset because Android users spend good money on this game and we don't have any of the features that idevices have gotten in the recent past. I haven't seen one post where anyone has attacked the ios or its useres. We are speaking (or trying too) directly to TL here. You however were criticizing us for buying android phones for mobile gaming? We chose droid phones for different reasons but mostly because android phones are more customizable than iphone because we have a huge variety to chose from as far as processors and screen sizes and manufacturers.
We have gone as far as to give TL ideas on how to get up to speed on their games. (Develop both platforms simultaneously).
I Remember when we didn't have floor tiles earlier this year and we didn't have any kind of an update for months!
Yes the two platforms are different but its not impossible to do these things. Companies like rovio adapted pretty quick and got their butts in gear and now in a years time I have 3 angry birds games on my phone with reasonable updates.

[pinkster73]

Yeah, Android is definitely growing and will continue to grow in market share of smartphones. I still think Windows Phone 7 is a game changer but it will take a while. It also remains to be seen what will happen to RIM's market share. I really think they are out of the race and have only hung on this long because so many people are contractually obligated to use BlackBerry devices for work.

BTW, that graph also doesn't include iPods, which make up a good chunk of iOS devices, especially among the kiddies.

Yes if you count the ipods and tablets into that graph it would definitely change it. I can't seem to find anything that includes all of it. I could always just make something up?

[felicitybliss]

Here's smartphone market share as of may 2011. But it doesn't include tablets, which ios ios has a 66% share in. This is not made up ha ha

http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i344/pinkster73/android_ios_market_share_2011-smalljpgpagespeedceVBNfyNyE1e.jpg
This graph refers to only the US market.

In the world, Symbian OS has a huge share....here is the breakdown:
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff481/barbiefrancie/bb30de3c.jpg

[sunnyDreams]

Yes if you count the ipods and tablets into that graph it would definitely change it. I can't seem to find anything that includes all of it. I could always just make something up?

You are hilarious, :)

[driftboutique]

Yes if you count the ipods and tablets into that graph it would definitely change it. I can't seem to find anything that includes all of it. I could always just make something up?

That's your best bet ;)

Way back when, I posted a graph from late last year with the caveat that things do change (though not as quickly as smartphone market share alone), but lord knows what thread that's in.

I do wonder how metrics from devices like the Kindle Fire will be assessed... It's technically an Android device but it's highly customized and it branched early on from the Android OS. Because of the open nature of Android it's highly possible that we will see more and more companies doing this as opposed to developing an OS from the ground up.

[driftboutique]

This graph refers to only the US market.

In the world, Symbian OS has a huge share....here is the breakdown:
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff481/barbiefrancie/bb30de3c.jpg

Are you certain this is not smartphone-specific?

[julia3032]

Does it matter, really? I was only referring to gaming, not market share. I just read an article on Wikipedia regarding gaming and what I have been saying all along about the different phones, screen sizes, etc does influence whether a game co. decides to adapt for Droid. Let me get the link

[julia3032]

Here's an article I found that talks about what I was referring to in gaming:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38382217/ns/technology_and_science-wireless/t/app-showdown-android-vs-iphone/

[pinkster73]

Felicity's graph shows Android and ios are about the same. Am I seeing that right?

[amygdane]

I'm sorry you guys don't have the same content, but c'mon now. When these games were being developed for the IOS platform (the only platform in town, btw, at the time) there was no Droid. It may be ignorance on my part, but I don't see Droid as a big gaming platform, certainly not in the beginning. It will take time. A lot of developers that were trying to develop for Droid have stopped because it IS complicated, in part because of all the different phones that use Droid. IOS only has 1 phone. That simplfies things enormously. The reason TL started offering their games for the Droid platform? Because Droid users would come on here and scream "When are you going to make this for DROID!" You asked for it, you got it. TL is not exactly the most scrupulous gaming company. It's not surprising they took advantage of the demand and rushed to supply an product which is inferior. Kinda what they do to every IOS user with every buggy update! So be careful what you wish/ask for.


Yeah as an android user personally I agree. Android is about as close to a "gaming platform" as amiga. Oh wait stupid me ios isn't a gaming platform either! We are talking cell phones people and that's it. However if a company is going to develope a game for a cell phone than the use of marketing data to determine when and how to release items (which TL already admitted to in a previous thread) is what us droid users should be mad about. I have no illusions about it, droid users tend to be geeky and ios like shiny things. This rivalry however is what fuels their "market data" and is just wrong. My point is that programming is not the reason they don't release the same content at the same time.

Oh and btw I have written a few apps for my droid which were no issue to compile in ios.

[pinkster73]

^^^ I have no illusions about it, droid users tend to be geeky and ios like shiny things.

Did you really just say that? Ha ha ha ha ha ha

[driftboutique]

Yeah as an android user personally I agree. Android is about as close to a "gaming platform" as amiga. Oh wait stupid me ios isn't a gaming platform either! We are talking cell phones people and that's it. However if a company is going to develope a game for a cell phone than the use of marketing data to determine when and how to release items (which TL already admitted to in a previous thread) is what us droid users should be mad about. I have no illusions about it, droid users tend to be geeky and ios like shiny things. This rivalry however is what fuels their "market data" and is just wrong. My point is that programming is not the reason they don't release the same content at the same time.

Oh and btw I have written a few apps for my droid which were no issue to compile in ios.

Well, that sure sounds scientific, but what do I know? I'm just a mouthbreathing iOS user -- SQUIRREL!!

[GroupMagma]

Hey guys,
Yes, we comment on many of these threads. So often, in fact, that some of you have taken to predicting exactly what I'll say. ;) I'm sorry if I don't immediately respond to something that is requested; this is not because I'm ignoring a post, but rather because I haven't been able to answer your query yet.

We are aware of Android users' desire for full feature and content parity. We agree that it is a concern, and it is one that we are actively correcting. However, I can't speculate when full parity will come to Android, and I'm not able to speculate on whether or not Android users will receive the holiday Goals in BS/Farm/RS.

[shakiba]

Hey guys,
Yes, we comment on many of these threads. So often, in fact, that some of you have taken to predicting exactly what I'll say. ;) I'm sorry if I don't immediately respond to something that is requested; this is not because I'm ignoring a post, but rather because I haven't been able to answer your query yet.

We are aware of Android users' desire for full feature and content parity. We agree that it is a concern, and it is one that we are actively correcting. However, I can't speculate when full parity will come to Android, and I'm not able to speculate on whether or not Android users will receive the holiday Goals in BS/Farm/RS.

Okay, I believe you :)

[pinkster73]

Well, that sure sounds scientific, but what do I know? I'm just a mouthbreathing iOS user -- SQUIRREL!!

I'm a geeky Android user ha ha

[GroupMagma]

I'm a geeky Android user ha ha

As am I. Speaking of which, my Epic 4G broke, and I switched to T-Mobile. Now, feast your eyes on my new phone!

http://img.popherald.com/2011-images/september/week-4/september-26/t-mobile-samsung-galaxy-s-ii.jpeg

[pinkster73]

As am I. Speaking of which, my Epic 4G broke, and I switched to T-Mobile. Now, feast your eyes on my new phone!

http://img.popherald.com/2011-images/september/week-4/september-26/t-mobile-samsung-galaxy-s-ii.jpeg

Ooooo fancy

[nmishii]

As am I. Speaking of which, my Epic 4G broke, and I switched to T-Mobile. Now, feast your eyes on my new phone!

http://img.popherald.com/2011-images/september/week-4/september-26/t-mobile-samsung-galaxy-s-ii.jpeg

Nice phone.

I was looking at new phones last week. Mostly the Epic 4G Touch. They don't make smartphones with keyboards anymore. So I decided to stick with mine and I'm practicing using my soft keypad. I hate it.

[driftboutique]

Nice phone.

I was looking at new phones last week. Mostly the Epic 4G Touch. They don't make smartphones with keyboards anymore. So I decided to stick with mine and I'm practicing using my soft keypad. I hate it.

Oh man, I am useless with a keypad. I would hate having to switch. And this is coming from someone who managed to use her PC for a year with no mouse! I broke it and couldn't afford a new one so I had to make do with key commands >_<

[xcellent]

As am I. Speaking of which, my Epic 4G broke, and I switched to T-Mobile. Now, feast your eyes on my new phone!

http://img.popherald.com/2011-images/september/week-4/september-26/t-mobile-samsung-galaxy-s-ii.jpeg

I also have SGII.... But different model..... (i dont have cam in my ipad so i just took the pic from the net).... Exactly like this one.......


http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k155/jamsydxb/5d5713c3.jpg

[pinkster73]

Nice phone.

I was looking at new phones last week. Mostly the Epic 4G Touch. They don't make smartphones with keyboards anymore. So I decided to stick with mine and I'm practicing using my soft keypad. I hate it.

I think that's great. I have never used my keyboard

[pinkster73]

How many people here with a touch screen phone have touched the screen on their computer to try to to something?

I have

[nmishii]

Oh man, I am useless with a keypad. I would hate having to switch. And this is coming from someone who managed to use her PC for a year with no mouse! I broke it and couldn't afford a new one so I had to make do with key commands >_<

I can't imagine using a PC with only a keyboard. I prefer a laptop with a touchpad. Can keep you hands all in the same area.

[nmishii]

How many people here with a touch screen phone have touched the screen on their computer to try to to something?

I have

I have on my laptop screen. But not on a computer monitor. You kind of feel stupid after doing that. So far no one was there to see me do it.

[Faufiffon]

My wife once tried to go back to the previous screen with a sweeping motion. She did this on an ATM. We laughed during 10 minutes after that.

[GroupMagma]

Nice phone.

I was looking at new phones last week. Mostly the Epic 4G Touch. They don't make smartphones with keyboards anymore. So I decided to stick with mine and I'm practicing using my soft keypad. I hate it.

The Epic Touch is essentially the Sammy/Sprint variant of the Galaxy S2, so it should be a pretty solid device. I do miss my keyboard, though.
There are some lesser-known models Samsung puts out that have keyboards, though II can't speak as to their quality (not too familiar). Here's a link: http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/all-products ; search by QWERTY key.

Sorry for the derail. But again, to stress, we are actively working on improving our Android apps. The iOS have gotten more features lately than the Android versions, but we're working to have the pendulum swing the other way.

[queenrocks77]

Ther
Sorry for the derail. But again, to stress, we are actively working on improving our Android apps. The iOS have gotten more features lately than the Android versions, but we're working to have the pendulum swing the other way.

That's very reassuring. I hope TL realizes that we only complain because we love the games and we want to get our hands on all of these new toys! If it was a bad game, we wouldn't care. We're not whining (well sometimes I do :p) we just want the full experience.
Any idea on a timeframe when we can start to see these thinks start to trickle down?

And thanks for getting this thread back on track. One minute we're stating our case and the next we have pie charts and people hugging and phone pictures. It's quite a thread. :eek:

[pinkster73]

That's very reassuring. I hope TL realizes that we only complain because we love the games and we want to get our hands on all of these new toys! If it was a bad game, we wouldn't care. We're not whining (well sometimes I do :p) we just want the full experience.
Any idea on a timeframe when we can start to see these thinks start to trickle down?

And thanks for getting this thread back on track. One minute we're stating our case and the next we have pie charts and people hugging and phone pictures. It's quite a thread. :eek:

It seems the Android based threads always derail. Probably because we are the biggest derailers ha ha. But it also seems Android advocates don't get that bothered by derailings. So its all good.

Ps LOL at Faufiffon

[nmishii]

The Epic Touch is essentially the Sammy/Sprint variant of the Galaxy S2, so it should be a pretty solid device. I do miss my keyboard, though.
There are some lesser-known models Samsung puts out that have keyboards, though II can't speak as to their quality (not too familiar). Here's a link: http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/all-products ; search by QWERTY key.

Sorry for the derail. But again, to stress, we are actively working on improving our Android apps. The iOS have gotten more features lately than the Android versions, but we're working to have the pendulum swing the other way.

Thank you. When I search for Sprint and QWERTY keyboard there are 4 phones, and the Epic 4G is the best one. Not planning on changing carriers and don't like to go backwards on features. A person who recently got a Verizon smartphone also told me the phones aren't coming with keyboards as much anymore. I'll eventually have to get a phone without one.

It doesn't sound like there's going to be an Android release this year. Okay, badges and sushi bars are fine any time of the year. Is it possible to at least give us the holiday goal items as weekly content? I think a lot of us would appreciate that, since its seasonal and this is the time of year for giving. And provide reasonable prices for the decorations. The Grinch's heart grew 4 sizes on Christmas and Scrooge also became a better person, so TL can also have the Christmas spirit. If the pendulum were near the equilibrium position it might seem like an unreasonable request, but it has swung so much its about to snap off.

[queenrocks77]

It seems the Android based threads always derail. Probably because we are the biggest derailers ha ha. But it also seems Android advocates don't get that bothered by derailings. So its all good.

Ps LOL at Faufiffon

Look at me joining in the derailment. I honestly dont mind looking or hearing about droids! I've been obsessed with em since the Droid x was announced last year and I still have my X and am still completely madly in love with it!

But really do care dearly about the issues mentioned in this thread! :p

[pinkster73]

Look at me joining in the derailment. I honestly dont mind looking or hearing about droids! I've been obsessed with em since the Droid x was announced last year and I still have my X and am still completely madly in love with it!

But really do care dearly about the issues mentioned in this thread! :p

So you play on both platforms?

[queenrocks77]

So you play on both platforms?

No. I only have my droid x. I dont have an idevice

[greygull]

No. I only have my droid x. I dont have an idevice

Going with the derail - if you love the X, you should check out the RAZR. We (hubby and I) just upgraded to those - OMG! All the bright colors on it make the X almost look like a 16 bit computer. I'll see if I can take a pic with my iPad to upload (I'm still not savvy enough to screenshot and post from it) to show off the colors.

[lptrain]

This game should be played on.a leveled field. There are only three major OS for the most popular mobile phones (iPhone, windows and android) My disbelief comes when planning updates that the development teamis not considering the second largest operating system...

So TL stop making apologies and giving excuses (I'm willing to bet that android users outnumber iPhone users three to one) there are three in my home two of these play Restaurant Story.

[pinkster73]

This game should be played on.a leveled field. There are only three major OS for the most popular mobile phones (iPhone, windows and android) My disbelief comes when planning updates that the development teamis not considering the second largest operating system...

So TL stop making apologies and giving excuses (I'm willing to bet that android users outnumber iPhone users three to one) there are three in my home two of these play Restaurant Story.

Actually ios does outnumber Android. But its close. See the graphs and charts. (And I already tried saying what you said but I was called out, but nice try :))

[2funnybonez]

Maybe you should enter the ornament contest, with an android and apple having a food fight.
I agree with you on the issue but understand to side with so many platforms of android ot there.

[2funnybonez]

We have 4 different android devices and no two have the same droid version.

[2funnybonez]

How many people here with a touch screen phone have touched the screen on their computer to try to to something?

I have

Usually my kids sitting right there with me say " MOM, it's not a touch screen". Glad I'm not the only.

[pinkster73]

How many people here with a touch screen phone have touched the screen on their computer to try to to something?

I have

Usually my kids sitting right there with me say " MOM, it's not a touch screen". Glad I'm not the only.

Ha ha that's what mine say. Then ten seconds later I do it again

[lptrain]

What was the most popular phone prior to the iPhone?
A: Motorola's Razor (and not to be disrespectful but the creative mind behind the iPhone. Is nomore.)

Hey TL respect the tech.

[owiver]

Totally agree, fed up android user

[ChickieCago]

Just did the update in the Android marketplace...and guess what? It's a Festivus Miracle! Badges, Collectables, and I guess the Sushi and Lemon Lime soda is supposed to be there...I have to wait to see those. So everyone...go get that update : )

[kmccusker]

Just did the update in the Android marketplace...and guess what? It's a Festivus Miracle! Badges, Collectables, and I guess the Sushi and Lemon Lime soda is supposed to be there...I have to wait to see those. So everyone...go get that update : )

I just noticed the same thing - mine must have automatically updated overnight. I logged in this morning and nearly went cross-eyed trying to figure out what all this new stuff was all of a sudden. Thanks TL, I look forward to exploring the new features on my Thunderbolt! :)

[pinkster73]

Yay!!!!!! So should we start whining about goals now? Tee hee

[Quimbly]

They would probably do something about it if all of their android users quit playing!

[cherokee98]

Simply put....if you don't like the free game...uninstall it.

[aiyayu]

They would probably do something about it if all of their android users quit playing!

Would happen if there were alternative games on the droid market. And so people continue with TL games cause they are decent and the other options are few n far inbetween.

[sweetcalifornia]

This has been the best thread I have ever read on this forum. I was so depressed and all of u guys made me laugh. Thanks.

P.S: I have an android phone and an iPad ....best of both worlds. :)

[nmishii]

This has been the best thread I have ever read on this forum. I was so depressed and all of u guys made me laugh. Thanks.

P.S: I have an android phone and an iPad ....best of both worlds. :)

And you live in sweet California. :-)

[sweetcalifornia]

I do!!!! :) How do u know??? :p lol