Need More Land Part II

[skyharbor602]

Remember the original thread "Need More Land" that went on for 2 years a couple of years back? Well here's part 2. The Marble Key process is flawed and we're still running out of land. I've suggested a few ways to get more land that would actually be easier for Storm8.
I'm frustrated to the point of no end with these never ending events yet the land hasn't caught up so "Need More Land Part II" was created so players can make creative suggestions for expansions because clearly Marble Keys have not worked. Feel free to drop lines about this and hope one day the developers will listen. After all, it is us players that keep the game going, contrary to some beliefs.

[kkdble49]

Yes! I’ve been playing since the beginning, and I’ve lived thru all the land crunch cycles. I’m really concerned that there aren’t plans for more expansions. I have 1339 unique dragons in my codex (33 in stable) and 25 unique unhatched eggs in storage. Every habitat that can be upgraded to 4 or 5 has been upgraded. I’m rapidly running out of options if I want to keep playing.

[retseho]

Yes! I?ve been playing since the beginning, and I?ve lived thru all the land crunch cycles. I?m really concerned that there aren?t plans for more expansions. I have 1339 unique dragons in my codex (33 in stable) and 25 unique unhatched eggs in storage. Every habitat that can be upgraded to 4 or 5 has been upgraded. I?m rapidly running out of options if I want to keep playing.

Island expansion II

Here's a suggestion.
Allow us to start a new DS island and link it to our main island.

Allow the main island to transfer dragons, gold, expansion maps, island parts from mining to the new island, ONCE a YEAR(to avoid the server being overwhelmed by daily transfers) via this link.

Make the link one way, so you can't breed & move dragons to the main islands, this prevents misuse of the resources to help in LBs, WEs & DTs.

Once linked, the sub island cannot play in events, after all this island is just meant to solve the lack of expansion land. Do not abuse it for other purposes.

The new island will finally make use of our previously useless maps & island parts & the billions of coins of L200 islands.

Additional suggestions, improvements that can make this acceptable to s8 DS management, programmers, designers & other staff
are very welcomed.

[amerirish]

This is a pie-in-the-sky, fantasy wish that will never, ever happen....

All habitats that cost gold - past, present and future issued - increase capacity by 1 dragon, free of charge as a tribute to their loyal players and to inspire loyalty in newer players.

While I know I'd sooner grow a tail than for S8 to do this incredibly generous and noble thing for their players, there it is; my suggestion.

Please, prove me wrong and I'll eat my words!

[amerirish]

Back to reality - here are some practical suggestions:

STOP making habitats that are less than 5 capacity. It makes me soooo angry when they put out these baloney 2 dragon habitats :mad:

The current Marble Shores habitat (key) has a dragon capacity of 2 but a key capacity of 3 - this is beyond frustrating. Obviously there will be at least one more key producing dragon (KPD) issued soon which is AWESOME but that means the habitat will have to very strictly be collected from every 12 hours and 1 minute in order to get the full benefit of the dragons. This is LUDICROUS!!!! Just up the key capacity to 6 and give us a freaking break already!! Why do they always have to give gifts with one hand while choking us with the other hand?? :mad:

My other suggestion is a dedicated building for producing keys, every 12 hours.

[AraRaider]

I actually posted this on another forum topic regarding marble keys and modified it a little bit for this post. I have also sent in complaints via tickets about marble keys and you should all too. They NEED to see how much we are all completely discontented with this terrible design. Also, not buying anything to do with marble keys would help. I will gladly and DO support the purchase of habitats, dragons and gold for events because those are things that are actually FUN and worthwhile.

The marble key island restrictions has got to be one of the worst flawed designs that dragon story has thought up yet in all my years of playing. The design is EXTREMELY poorly constructed and it is an incredibly flawed design because it actually hinders long time players who are high enough level to expand here from buying the new monthly quad habitats and other monthly special habitats. Without any room readily available to put dragons, players are much less likely to buy dragons on sale from the market because they have no room to purchase them.
The marble keys island is the worst idea dragon story has ever had for this game and anything over 10 days is absolutely absurd.

The marble keys island ludicrous restrictions impacts the game and players in the following ways:

* Prevents players from readily purchasing 4 part quad habitats and special habitats
* deters players from wanting to buy special sale dragons as they have no room to put them
* Extremely outrageous craft times actually cause long term players to lose interest and spend LESS money on the game and even convinces some to quit as they feel that they have no hope of playing anymore with having to wait a month or more per habitat
* FORCES players to buy gold to quickly clear the spaces if they want to have any immediate room to buy the special habitats which is NOT fair at all because players of a lower level do not have that requirement they can expand with maps or mine for land
* gives players a negative view and distrust for how we view the game (We are all aware that this is your worst money grab design ever. Players should be HAPPY to spend their money on a game and enjoy doing so!)
* not a single player in this game agrees with or enjoys the marble keys restriction
* it is the most hated and widely disliked and complained about aspect of the game
*unhappy players means we are less likely to support and trust a game that throws outrageous requirements like this.

In a game, anything that takes more than 10 days causes players to dramatically lose interest. You guys are shooting yourselves in the foot with this outrageously inadequate design. It makes it become a pay to play or wait weeks on end to have a home for any of your new dragons. It?s absolutely absurd.

We LIKE spending our money on cool dragons, habitats, nests, events. You guys earn BUCKET LOADS of money from us for those events...do you REALLY need to have a feature in the game that actually causes players to quit and not enjoy spending their money on your game anymore? I am telling you, for a game that is supposed to be a fun leisurely play, making an aspect of the game that people hate is one of the worst, most detrimental things that you can do.

Games are meant to be FUN! Marble key island restrictions are NOT fun and if you asked every single player and did a poll I am willing to bet you would be hard pressed to find ANY players that actually enjoy it.

Please, please change these restrictions and show us that you actually care about our support. I have NEVER known a game to care so little about the constant complaints and pleas of the players and NOT change anything to make things better...keeping your player base happy is what can make or break a game.

[cherrycastleorchard]

I actually posted this on another forum topic regarding marble keys and modified it a little bit for this post. I have also sent in complaints via tickets about marble keys and you should all too. They NEED to see how much we are all completely discontented with this terrible design. Also, not buying anything to do with marble keys would help. I will gladly and DO support the purchase of habitats, dragons and gold for events because those are things that are actually FUN and worthwhile.

The marble key island restrictions has got to be one of the worst flawed designs that dragon story has thought up yet in all my years of playing. The design is EXTREMELY poorly constructed and it is an incredibly flawed design because it actually hinders long time players who are high enough level to expand here from buying the new monthly quad habitats and other monthly special habitats. Without any room readily available to put dragons, players are much less likely to buy dragons on sale from the market because they have no room to purchase them.
The marble keys island is the worst idea dragon story has ever had for this game and anything over 10 days is absolutely absurd.

The marble keys island ludicrous restrictions impacts the game and players in the following ways:

* Prevents players from readily purchasing 4 part quad habitats and special habitats
* deters players from wanting to buy special sale dragons as they have no room to put them
* Extremely outrageous craft times actually cause long term players to lose interest and spend LESS money on the game and even convinces some to quit as they feel that they have no hope of playing anymore with having to wait a month or more per habitat
* FORCES players to buy gold to quickly clear the spaces if they want to have any immediate room to buy the special habitats which is NOT fair at all because players of a lower level do not have that requirement they can expand with maps or mine for land
* gives players a negative view and distrust for how we view the game (We are all aware that this is your worst money grab design ever. Players should be HAPPY to spend their money on a game and enjoy doing so!)
* not a single player in this game agrees with or enjoys the marble keys restriction
* it is the most hated and widely disliked and complained about aspect of the game
*unhappy players means we are less likely to support and trust a game that throws outrageous requirements like this.

In a game, anything that takes more than 10 days causes players to dramatically lose interest. You guys are shooting yourselves in the foot with this outrageously inadequate design. It makes it become a pay to play or wait weeks on end to have a home for any of your new dragons. It?s absolutely absurd.

We LIKE spending our money on cool dragons, habitats, nests, events. You guys earn BUCKET LOADS of money from us for those events...do you REALLY need to have a feature in the game that actually causes players to quit and not enjoy spending their money on your game anymore? I am telling you, for a game that is supposed to be a fun leisurely play, making an aspect of the game that people hate is one of the worst, most detrimental things that you can do.

Games are meant to be FUN! Marble key island restrictions are NOT fun and if you asked every single player and did a poll I am willing to bet you would be hard pressed to find ANY players that actually enjoy it.

Please, please change these restrictions and show us that you actually care about our support. I have NEVER known a game to care so little about the constant complaints and pleas of the players and NOT change anything to make things better...keeping your player base happy is what can make or break a game.

Totally agree

[Troyan7]

I also support this post.

[byteme77]

and at least reopen the right hand mine also so that can be used for food mining even if we cant use any more island parts, my poor dynamite dragon i payed gold for is all but an anoiment now :D

[kkdble49]

Yes! Please open the dynamite mine! I haven’t had access for over a year.

[skyharbor602]

AraRaider, you took the words right out of my mouth. Us players want to keep loving this game but, once again, the land is not keeping up with the dragons releases.
My suggestions for solutions are:
1. Lower the marble key crafting time to 3 hours per key
2. Allow players to request/send marble keys just like the maps.
3. Definitely create more floating island spaces.
4. Create a world like the arctic isles. Have a floating ship take the player to the new island which would reduce crashes and be fun to the player. Plus there would be more land to keep up with dragon releases.
There are a total of 20 or so new dragons released every month, that means an average of 7 spaces would be needed each month to house all of them if a player wants them on their island. In some games it takes 30 or more keys to clear a space in the system we have now. This is not fair to all players let alone high level players. Please, I'm begging the powers that be to please do something about this land crisis. We love playing this game but we can't keep playing when we're low on land. The marble key system has to be fixed.

[lmmortaI1]

I have not opened my game in about a month now and I never thought I'd ever not check it. This game has way too many issues. Land being one of the biggest and I'm just tired of it. I checked the forums just now and figured I'd post to just add one for support here. Long time player here, since the very beginning of this game. Good luck

[random59]

I have not opened my game in about a month now and I never thought I'd ever not check it. This game has way too many issues. Land being one of the biggest and I'm just tired of it. I checked the forums just now and figured I'd post to just add one for support here. Long time player here, since the very beginning of this game. Good luck

I do believe that before we received the new land to develop, I said that we should beware as Storm8 was controlling the game with speed of development and that’s all they have done!

Control is the way the game has evolved for the last 5 years, ie if the players want to speed up the game they use gold, either by buying GPD or by buying gold and that is the way this game has evolved! Player beware!

First we had the bomb, then the dynamite, next up the marble dragons and now we have the marble key dragon which will become obsolete at some time in the near future as have these other resource dragons!

[AraRaider]

AraRaider, you took the words right out of my mouth. Us players want to keep loving this game but, once again, the land is not keeping up with the dragons releases.
My suggestions for solutions are:
1. Lower the marble key crafting time to 3 hours per key
2. Allow players to request/send marble keys just like the maps.
3. Definitely create more floating island spaces.
4. Create a world like the arctic isles. Have a floating ship take the player to the new island which would reduce crashes and be fun to the player. Plus there would be more land to keep up with dragon releases.
There are a total of 20 or so new dragons released every month, that means an average of 7 spaces would be needed each month to house all of them if a player wants them on their island. In some games it takes 30 or more keys to clear a space in the system we have now. This is not fair to all players let alone high level players. Please, I'm begging the powers that be to please do something about this land crisis. We love playing this game but we can't keep playing when we're low on land. The marble key system has to be fixed.



Unfortunately though, S8 doesn't care about what we think about marble keys even one bit. They do not care if we absolutely hate thAt aspect of the game as long as it makes them money.
just look at all the new dragons being released with serious anatomical and animation errors (epic form chrysanthemum dragon decapitates it's head and tail from it's body when it flies, which is totally gross by the way, epic form gloriosa dragon's tail is not even attached and brokenly stuck on...dusk unicorn level 7 magically misses a leg the instant it starts flying...there is many more errors like this the S8 is now making that they never used to...my conclusion is they do not really care about quality anymore or care about keeping players happy. Sadly. :( I love the game but I wish for all the money they are making they would show a little more appreciation. They wouldn't be this successful without us.

[skyharbor602]

There's a crash thread that ties right into needing more land.

[Mikep101]

The issue with adding space is memory. The easy solution is create an area like Arctic Isles that will allow dragons from storage to be placed there. Allow us to use maps, dynamite, coins, etc to clear space. Then we can move the dragons we no longer play regularly to the island. Maybe even retire a few types. I have almost 1000 unique and have sold off my decorations for space and the new area fills quickly so I now don't work to get more than 1 or 2 new dragons a week. To fix the memory issue provide a no animation setting.

Another partial solution is make some 5 dragon habitats that can be purchased with coins OR allow blue, green, yellow to be upgrade to 5 dragons for coins. Even allowing 50 gold upgrades to 5 dragons would help, but 500 gold is nuts. The only ones who can afford that for every habitat are those who use *****s.

A final solution would be make farms and other essential nonhabitat buildings 1 or 2 squares. Would help a tiny bit.

[mymonta]

The issue with adding space is memory. The easy solution is create an area like Arctic Isles that will allow dragons from storage to be placed there. Allow us to use maps, dynamite, coins, etc to clear space. Then we can move the dragons we no longer play regularly to the island. Maybe even retire a few types. I have almost 1000 unique and have sold off my decorations for space and the new area fills quickly so I now don't work to get more than 1 or 2 new dragons a week. To fix the memory issue provide a no animation setting.

Another partial solution is make some 5 dragon habitats that can be purchased with coins OR allow blue, green, yellow to be upgrade to 5 dragons for coins. Even allowing 50 gold upgrades to 5 dragons would help, but 500 gold is nuts. The only ones who can afford that for every habitat are those who use *****s.

A final solution would be make farms and other essential nonhabitat buildings 1 or 2 squares. Would help a tiny bit.

These are all good ideas. I especially like the one about making habitats upgradeable with coins or with less than 500 gold. You have 3 dragons in a habitat, and you are supposed to pay 500 gold to add one more dragon?!? Like you said, that is nuts! That's almost $20 if there is not a gold sale, just to **house** an additional dragon. If I'm going to spend $20, it's going to be to purchase several dragons.

[connies001]

When are we going to get more land,I have many dragons in storage,2 nests with eggs on waiting for a new home, if they don’t come soon I will have to stop playing the game. To same goes for fantasy forest. Please more land required ASAP.

[shortdanzr]

back when i started playing, i played DS and CS and a few others. at the beginning i like DS much more than CS because once i got through a few LB, WE, Tales-i undrstood the routine. i almost stopped playing CS because i liked DS much more.
after many months of DS-i decided the same 3 events over and over were boring. i still play DS. mainly because i don't have to really think or pay attention to what is going on. basically it is filler material for my brain. white noise. static. entertaining but with no thought needed. and i haven't cleared all my map land and i can already seen the end coming

[LynniesDragons]

Mikey 101,
I am having the same problem & I am totally landlocked. All of my habitats are full, so I can?t even evolve to trade. I think another problem
Is that the Spell Shop has too many things consuming it. It is impossible to keep up with expanding because of everything else that it is being
Used for. I totally agree on the habitats with 3 upgrading to 5 for coins. I am on Social Security & can?t afford the 500 gold to upgrade. I have
been playing Dragon Story for about 8 years & really enjoy it. I sincerely hope TL can fix this! You know We can?t be the only ones in this situation.

[Ellerslie6]

Mikey 101,
I am having the same problem & I am totally landlocked. All of my habitats are full, so I can?t even evolve to trade. I think another problem
Is that the Spell Shop has too many things consuming it. It is impossible to keep up with expanding because of everything else that it is being
Used for. I totally agree on the habitats with 3 upgrading to 5 for coins. I am on Social Security & can?t afford the 500 gold to upgrade. I have
been playing Dragon Story for about 8 years & really enjoy it. I sincerely hope TL can fix this! You know We can?t be the only ones in this situation.
DITTO TO ABOVE COMMENTS
Unfortunately so many of us have complained so many times. So many of us have linked a totally unresponsive approach to solving our problems to loyal players participating less and less or even dropping the game all together. So many of us have made the valid point that game revenue depends on us having room to expand. YET we have seen little change. I feel sorry for the forum administrators and even the developers. They are constrained by their bosses who are the ones that make the decisions. I really believe that the only way we will get through to them is to stage an abstinence week where we encourage as many players as we can to simply stop playing events for a week. Continue to grow food and breed and evolve BUT spend no gold on speed ups or habitat or dragon purchase - concentrate on building food supplies rather than using 200k or so to complete an event that rewards us with dragons for which there is no room
On another note I am tired of blame for crashes and rollbacks being placed on our equipment. My new IPad Pro is NOT to blame. This is the only game I play that constantly rolls back.

[skyharbor602]

I see another thread was started for the land expansions so I'm posting again in this one since it was buried.

[amerirish]

I have a total of 7 spaces left to place habitats (3 cleared, 4 to be cleared) and just over 300 unique dragon eggs in storage. Additionally, there are about 74 dragons on my list to be crafted with Essence and about 20 on my "To Breed" list. My current habitats have about 85 spaces for dragons, and if I buy 7 more five dragon habitats, that gives me a total of 120 spaces to potentially place 394 existing dragons plus the dragons that are constantly issued every week/10 days.

I just don't understand how this game model is supposed to work for players.

[marizante7]

DITTO TO ABOVE COMMENTS
Unfortunately so many of us have complained so many times. So many of us have linked a totally unresponsive approach to solving our problems to loyal players participating less and less or even dropping the game all together. So many of us have made the valid point that game revenue depends on us having room to expand. YET we have seen little change. I feel sorry for the forum administrators and even the developers. They are constrained by their bosses who are the ones that make the decisions. I really believe that the only way we will get through to them is to stage an abstinence week where we encourage as many players as we can to simply stop playing events for a week. Continue to grow food and breed and evolve BUT spend no gold on speed ups or habitat or dragon purchase - concentrate on building food supplies rather than using 200k or so to complete an event that rewards us with dragons for which there is no room
On another note I am tired of blame for crashes and rollbacks being placed on our equipment. My new IPad Pro is NOT to blame. This is the only game I play that constantly rolls back.

You have right!!!! I try to do the same with you!!!!

[Mostreal]

Island expansion II

Here's a suggestion.
Allow us to start a new DS island and link it to our main island.

Allow the main island to transfer dragons, gold, expansion maps, island parts from mining to the new island, ONCE a YEAR(to avoid the server being overwhelmed by daily transfers) via this link.

Make the link one way, so you can't breed & move dragons to the main islands, this prevents misuse of the resources to help in LBs, WEs & DTs.

Once linked, the sub island cannot play in events, after all this island is just meant to solve the lack of expansion land. Do not abuse it for other purposes.

The new island will finally make use of our previously useless maps & island parts & the billions of coins of L200 islands.

Additional suggestions, improvements that can make this acceptable to s8 DS management, programmers, designers & other staff
are very welcomed.

This idea is growing on me....I would tweak a bit.

Allow moving in a rolling 3 monh or 6 month period (once a year just seems to little). If it is rolling, then not everyone is moving at the same time, which will help. So, once you start you have say 12 hours to move whatever you want then the clock resets so if you move on say April 1 and the clock is for 3 months, you can move again July 1. If you don't move until July 20 then you can move again Oct 20 (not Oct 1 because the clock resets when you actually elect to move).

Maybe limit it to players at level 150+, that way you limit how many people can have a second island, which helps servers and programming.

I would allow movement both ways but no breeding, evolving, or hatching on the second island - JUST let the dragons live there. You still need to clear land on the second island but allow transfer of maps, etc. You can buy habitats only and still have to wait for the coin ones to build, etc. Link the codexes so you still know what dragons you have.

I would totally use this and mostly keep my commons there and some other dragons that I don't use a lot. It would pare down my tournament list and maybe I would use more level 10 dragons (and especially not forget about them - I keep meaning to raise up Sweet Tooth past 10 but forget about him all the time with so many level 12, 13, 14, and 15 dragons).

[Mikep101]

Agreed... Allow dragons to be moved or retired to a second island. Same with habitats and decorations. You won't collect coins so it should be easier on loading. Just watch them flap.

[AinoDK]

If you clear all the land and place only 5-dragon habitats, you should be able to place all dragons ever created. This is not possible today.

I have been slowly exchanging all my old 3-habitats with 5-habitats, but before long I will run out of space. Which means that sadly I will no longer be able to participate in events, or spent gold on habitats or dragons.

Strange business model

[Mikep101]

It would cost some serious gold to replace all habitats with 5s. Wish they would upgrade regular habitats for coins. With over 1000 unique dragons it's pretty cramped and fast getting worse.

[amerirish]

Also on the idea of replacing all habitats with those that have 5 dragon capacity: I love collecting different habitats as much as I love collecting dragons so there are some that are 3 or 4 capacity that are expired. I can't store them so I'd have to sell them off and never be able to get them back :( I don't want to do that.

[AnnirasSweets]

Also on the idea of replacing all habitats with those that have 5 dragon capacity: I love collecting different habitats as much as I love collecting dragons so there are some that are 3 or 4 capacity that are expired. I can't store them so I'd have to sell them off and never be able to get them back :( I don't want to do that.

This is how I feel as well, plus there's the fact that a lot of my three and four dragon habitats were purchased for gold originally. Selling those off would be at a huge loss and not something I feel like I should have to do in order to have enough space.

[random59]

Gee, all I can say is there a few players here with very short memories.

This last lot of expansions took over 2 years of posts pleading for increased land. Heck I posted fortnight angering one moderator after they had posted soon, asking when was soon.

Then the announcement came that we were to get new land and it seemed a little too good be true, which was true because it again comes down to control.

Personally I doubt there will be an increase for at least another year as this will force a lot of the higher level players out of the game and bring in newer players!

[mymonta]

Gee, all I can say is there a few players here with very short memories.

This last lot of expansions took over 2 years of posts pleading for increased land. Heck I posted fortnight angering one moderator after they had posted soon, asking when was soon.

Then the announcement came that we were to get new land and it seemed a little too good be true, which was true because it again comes down to control.

Personally I doubt there will be an increase for at least another year as this will force a lot of the higher level players out of the game and bring in newer players!

I've already basically quit playing. I thought I was a player for life (or at least for the life of the game or until I get a life - wait! I'm exposing too much personal info!). I had 4 Dragon Story and 3 Fantasy Forest Story accounts that I spent hours a day on and hundreds of dollars a month on, but I was getting really frustrated with the lack of land on my 2 older accounts and totally unexpectedly quit playing and started a new game. Now my time and money are all going to it. I'll probably tire of it someday, too, but for different reasons. But, yes, with no room, it is very difficult to enjoy playing anymore. :(

[amerirish]

I cleared all my land and have 2 open spaces which will be filled mid August as the newest 4-habitat combo is issued. Then I'll have to start selling off duplicate habs which I find really annoying since I paid gold for several Fairy Crossroads awhile back as a response to the previous lack of space :mad: This game is so darn frustrating :mad:

[Mikep101]

I sold all duplicate dragons and have well over 1000 uniques. I also dumped all decorations, except for gold and have 2 spaces for those. I will sell off gold decorations when full. One space left to clear and 5 spaces left free. What I do for space is every sale I stock up on 5 dragon habitats. That will get you above 1500 unique dragons. It makes my land look jumbled, as the habitats are mix-matched, but it keeps me able to play. Part of the issue with more land is phone memory resources. My S7 Edge is struggling to keep up, so I clear my phone memory prior to opening the game. The game is a resource hog. So I am totally not expecting any new space any time soon, as it would likely make the game unable to run on older phones.