Most effective way to deter a farmer? How does he find me?

[Pswayze]

I am a lvl 56 with an alliance of 9 and have never written a comment on anybody's wall. Ever. A lvl 68 with a much larger alliance has taken to farming me. He's hit me 50+ times over the last week. I haven't attacked anyone in weeks. I was just waiting it out, assuming that for whatever reason, I was on his news feed but I would fall off eventually. This doesn't seem to be the case. Is there any way for this guy to continue to find me? Also, I'm considering just sanctioning him every time it is available until he gives up breathing. Any suggestions?

[Bommando]

Sanctions rarely work against strong players. They win far more than they lose.

I know that if someone sanctions me, I just hit them harder to recoup any potential losses.

He must be finding you via a link. Are you positive you didn't comment on someone's profile ever? Have you requested any alliances that have not been accepted?

[ComradeCrunch]

Check your alliance list.

[goatboy1970]

If he's not in your alliance, he must have a pending alliance request from you, and he's using that as a hard-link (presuming you're telling the truth about leaving no links). Nothing you can do about that. Bank your cash religiously and hope that he gets tired of wasting ammo on you and not getting money.

[Pswayze]

Sanctions rarely work against strong players. They win far more than they lose.

I know that if someone sanctions me, I just hit them harder to recoup any potential losses.

He must be finding you via a link. Are you positive you didn't comment on someone's profile ever? Have you requested any alliances that have not been accepted?

If he's not in your alliance, he must have a pending alliance request from you, and he's using that as a hard-link (presuming you're telling the truth about leaving no links). Nothing you can do about that. Bank your cash religiously and hope that he gets tired of wasting ammo on you and not getting money.


Ah, it must be an unaccepted alliance request. I did not know that was an open link. Thanks for the info.

[Pswayze]

When you are killed during a sanction attack, is your health restored to full? I would like to exact my revenge in the most effective way possible. Should sanctions be spaced out evenly?

[trenae]

When you are killed during a sanction attack, is your health restored to full? I would like to exact my revenge in the most effective way possible. Should sanctions be spaced out evenly?

No when you are killed on sanctions your health is not restored to full. You either have to wait for it to build back up or I believe you can pay to restore to full health.

[Agent_Wurstbrot]

Okay, here´s your way to let someone suffer by sanctioning him:

1. Sanc him while he has money outside and at times when he is not using his pod. Best when he just earned and/or while he is sleeping.

2. Make sure he looses the money. Do that by finding someone who can defeat him and then coordinate your attacks. If you do that well, you can milk even the richest guys empty - you can´t hide in retreat from sanctions.

IMO farming though alliance links and alliance invitations is a bad thing. So, I might want to assist you for that coordinated sanction attack. If you want to do that, add me (E8P8PS) and PM me.

[ComradeCrunch]

I was going to say sanctioning him will just give him a soft link but since he apparently has an unaccepted alliance invite from you then that doesn't matter. Your best option is banking and when your health is knocked below 27, then withdraw that cash and use it on defensive buildings.

Can't speak for anyone else but the only times I attack when it's a money losing proposition is 1.) If you've spammed my wall/tossed out a bunch of silly sanctions because I attacked more than X amount of times in X hours/days or 2.) I'm farming for xp. Even if I'm farming for xp, there's a limit to how much unit loss I'm willing to put up with.

TLDR version:

Don't bother sanctioning.
Bank.
When health < 27 withdraw from bank and build defense.

[trenae]

I was going to say sanctioning him will just give him a soft link but since he apparently has an unaccepted alliance invite from you then that doesn't matter. Your best option is banking and when your health is knocked below 27, then withdraw that cash and use it on defensive buildings.

Yep this is probably the best solution.

[SilvioDante]

IMO farming though alliance links and alliance invitations is a bad thing. So, I might want to assist you for that coordinated sanction attack. If you want to do that, add me (E8P8PS) and PM me.



hate to rain on your parade here, wurstbrot, but would you please explain to me why farming through a pending invite is so very evil?


apart from that, i'd be happy to join the two of you sanc'ing that guy, no matter what he actually did. camping is too boring right now and this sounds like a welcome change...

so, swayze, feel free to pm me too.

[Unregistered]

When you are killed during a sanction attack, is your health restored to full? I would like to exact my revenge in the most effective way possible. Should sanctions be spaced out evenly?

Unless you're more active than he is, never go along the sanction root.

As a farmer he'll most likely be banking as his money rolls in... and he can sanction you back, when he knows you have money...


Better to have him max farm you max 24 times a day.... which he might not get as others would be attacking you as well

Rather than him farm you 24 times a day, plus 25 sanctions...

[Agent_Wurstbrot]

hate to rain on your parade here, wurstbrot, but would you please explain to me why farming through a pending invite is so very evil?

Basicaly, because if everybody attacked through invitation links, no one would send any invitations any more. Also, defending against this is almost impossible.

[trenae]

Basicaly, because if everybody attacked through invitation links, no one would send any invitations any more. Also, defending against this is almost impossible.

Maybe people need to think it out a bit more then to just start sending invites. It's a great way to find new people to attack.

Close the defensive gap for attack-able levels and you won't need to worry about this.

[Agent_Wurstbrot]

You are right; if you triple-check on any invitation you send out, you might get a very relative security. It still wouldn´t save you from people that actually try to get those invitations by posting their code for example in the wrong countrys "add me"-thread.

Close the defensive gap for attack-able levels and you won't need to worry about this.

This tactic forces you to camp a lot, because it drains so much upkeep. Also, not everybody can be the strongest in the game. By definition, there have to be weaker players.

Also, what point are you trying to make? That everyone in the game should become a huge stack of defense buildings? That would be a boring game, would´t it?

[Baghern]

Basicaly, because if everybody attacked through invitation links, no one would send any invitations any more. Also, defending against this is almost impossible.

And sanctioning isn't?

Thats what I read on a lot of campers comments, its all about mass sanctioning farmers...

You make no effort to fight so you mass sanction them

I've also often read campers boards where they or someone in their group trick/befriend farmers and then mass sanction them.


It goes both ways at least the farmer is just one person.

[trenae]

You are right; if you triple-check on any invitation you send out, you might get a very relative security. It still wouldn´t save you from people that actually try to get those invitations by posting their code for example in the wrong countrys "add me"-thread.



This tactic forces you to camp a lot, because it drains so much upkeep. Also, not everybody can be the strongest in the game. By definition, there have to be weaker players.

Also, what point are you trying to make? That everyone in the game should become a huge stack of defense buildings? That would be a boring game, would´t it?

The point I was trying to make is exactly the one I already made. You said it's nearly possible to defend against that sort of thing and I'm saying it's not that hard to defend it.

[SilvioDante]

Maybe people need to think it out a bit more then to just start sending invites. It's a great way to find new people to attack.

Close the defensive gap for attack-able levels and you won't need to worry about this.

that's exactly the clue. one should only invite if the addressee is known and seems somehow "trustworthy". for instance only invite your own colours.

and, excuse me wurstbrot, "this might kill recruitment" is kind of pointless. i mean, just figure out all these wtf-are-you-farming-me-please-stop-posters. these lambs will carry on spamming even the next 50 farmers' walls. at least.

[mangan]

This tactic forces you to camp a lot, because it drains so much upkeep. Also, not everybody can be the strongest in the game. By definition, there have to be weaker players.

Also, what point are you trying to make? That everyone in the game should become a huge stack of defense buildings? That would be a boring game, would´t it?[/QUOTE]

Buildings don't cost upkeep, and if done wisely can allow you to lower your upkeep because those large stacks of buildings allow you to eliminate or reduce your defensive forces that require upkeep.

Obviously not everyone in the game has to do the defensive building thing, but if you don't maintain a top of the line defensive army and have the income buildings to support it, then you should expect to get farmed because your're an easy target! That's the price for not being as good a player as the farmer. Learn from him/her and adapt.

The only time I stop repeated attacks against a particular person is when they build up a defense good enough to no longer make it worth my while, I get bored, find a better target/lose access to them, or my strategy dictates that I camp. I figure I had to do it at some point and it's not fair for them to get stronger faster because they haven't and aren't spending money on defense or defensive army upkeep just because someone whines or cries unfair. And I do purposely attack harder when sanctioned, spammed, or when the person is flat out rude just to make a point. I've been farmed before too and no I didn't like it, but I chose the tactical route which was to get better defense & build a better income & army, and I didn't leave links which minimized my exposure. Simple as that, no clans or any other BS like that, I didn't start playing a game so that others could tell me what to do.

In short, you don't want to get farmed, then get better at the game. Take the farming as a lesson.

[striker]

I figure I had to do it at some point and it's not fair for them to get stronger faster because they haven't and aren't spending money on defense or defensive army upkeep just because someone whines or cries unfair.

Oooo! I like this!

We're not farming. We are just making sure that no one unfairly progresses through the game while skipping necessary steps, like camping and building a good defence. Why should they get to zoom up the levels and collect all sorts of money when others have to show patience and commitment? What makes them so special? Nothing, that's what. We are the great equalizers. Deliverers of justice. Perhaps even.. let's just say it.. perhaps even Holy.

[mangan]

Oooo! I like this!

We're not farming. We are just making sure that no one unfairly progresses through the game while skipping necessary steps, like camping and building a good defence. Why should they get to zoom up the levels and collect all sorts of money when others have to show patience and commitment? What makes them so special? Nothing, that's what. We are the great equalizers. Deliverers of justice. Perhaps even.. let's just say it.. perhaps even Holy.

Glad you agree, and with this being a war game...

BRING OUT THE HOLY HAND GRENADE!!!:D

[SamFreedom]

Tell me his NAME, FLAG and current LEVEL and I'll take care of it. ;) I'm in his range and I hate farmers with a passion. If I run into him, I'll let you know and even take screenshots so you can revel in his demise.

In fact, I'm not sure you can post that publicly... else everyone would be calling hits on everyone all the time. ;)

I'll check with you privately.

[Unregistered]

Tell me his NAME, FLAG and current LEVEL and I'll take care of it. ;) I'm in his range and I hate farmers with a passion. If I run into him, I'll let you know and even take screenshots so you can revel in his demise.

In fact, I'm not sure you can post that publicly... else everyone would be calling hits on everyone all the time. ;)

I'll check with you privately.

I hate campers who get all outraged and abuse sanctions with a passion... I'm constantly in a sanction war with at least 2 campers at any one time...


This will get real fun when I get my itouch, can't wait to see the outrage when they find they're getting sanction 50 times a day and they can't hit me back...

Thats what you get for camping and sanctioning instead of putting up defenses.

Having said that, ignoring famers like me is your best strategy.... never leave comments, just ignore them, eventually they'll level up and can't get you again. Take the 5-30 hits...

Better than 24 hits and 25 sanctions everyday.

[wackanoob]

1. Magman is correct. Often the best and fastest way to increase your income is to buy defense buildings and reduce upkeep costs (this is shown in my spreadsheets optimum strategy calculator).

2. Sanctioning a "farmer" is a ridiculous strategy.
I farm for three reasons.
a. Exp
b. Cash
c. Revenge

the first two are stopped by me hitting my goal or not getting cash. Wait or bank to get some relief.

The third is only done when someone who is getting farmed sanctions me. IF I get sanctioned, I don't stop attacking. Money lost is small bananas for my income, so I truck along hammering the target at every oppertunity, OFTEN ending each farming session with a sanction.


I suggest banking, buying defense, and waiting. He will move along. If you can't beat him now, there is zero upside to a "war" with him. Stay a unproductive farm, avoid being a target.

[wackanoob]

Tell me his NAME, FLAG and current LEVEL and I'll take care of it. ;) I'm in his range and I hate farmers with a passion. If I run into him, I'll let you know and even take screenshots so you can revel in his demise.

In fact, I'm not sure you can post that publicly... else everyone would be calling hits on everyone all the time. ;)

I'll check with you privately.

If you hate farmers, you must be a damn good farm.

Name, level, code, flag please. No reason to keep your farm private.

[Unregistered]

Some sanctioning tips:

- don't mass sanction... space them out ~ 1-2 hrs apart. That gives him time to regen health, which means he takes more losses per death, which costs him more money, more units, and more losses.

exception: if you sanction him and he dies, then he attacks you again- IMMEDIATELY re-sanction him, since he just spent $$$ to restore.

- bank your cash- losing 10% is better than 40M+ per loss, and if he's losing units farming you and getting no cash, with luck economics will kick in and he'll find a juicier target.

- make sure you have "throw away" units to lose if you don't have "good" units to fill up yer allies. It'll help protect your "good" units, and maybe increase his unit losses a bit as well...

If you don't have units you care about, just attack him first and lose till yer below 27. You'll lose a lot, but you WONT lose money. It does refresh a link for him, but if he's got a hard link elsewhere that really doesn't matter. If he only has a "soft" link, you can sometimes let him regen to full, then sanction him and get your link spammed off his page.

One trick I've not tried, but sounds like fun, would be to post his code on all the "add me" boards that people use to find folks to farm... bit of irony there actually. ;)

A lot of farmers say "sanctions don't work" or "they don't bother me"... but they do. Unless they are defense maxed 200's, there's always someone out there that can and will kill them for you... and sanctions are CHEAP. There's really no good reason at all NOT to use them, it's part of the game and you are missing out if ya don't use em as a very, very useful "equalizer". Just do it smart... you might not "win", but you'll at least be annoying, at best painful enough to convince him to move to someone else.

[Bommando]

A lot of farmers say "sanctions don't work" or "they don't bother me"... but they do. Unless they are defense maxed 200's, there's always someone out there that can and will kill them for you... and sanctions are CHEAP. There's really no good reason at all NOT to use them, it's part of the game and you are missing out if ya don't use em as a very, very useful "equalizer". Just do it smart... you might not "win", but you'll at least be annoying, at best painful enough to convince him to move to someone else.

False. All sanctions do is give me renewed vigour to retaliate. I use the soft links created by the sanctions to not only go after the person who sanctioned me, but the people who lost to me while I was sanctioned.

The absolute best method to deter farmers is:

Remove the incentive to farm

Whether this is beefing up your defence, or vaulting your cash. If a farmer doesn't get enough money to justify the expense of the attack, they will leave you alone and look for greener pastures.

I don't understand why this is so hard to grasp.

[wackanoob]

A lot of farmers say "sanctions don't work" or "they don't bother me"... but they do. Unless they are defense maxed 200's, there's always someone out there that can and will kill them for you... and sanctions are CHEAP. There's really no good reason at all NOT to use them, it's part of the game and you are missing out if ya don't use em as a very, very useful "equalizer". Just do it smart... you might not "win", but you'll at least be annoying, at best painful enough to convince him to move to someone else.

I say they dont work.

I lose about 10-15% of sanction fights. That means in the space of a day, I will lose about 10 fights, and win around 100. BFD. I just had someone beg me to stop a war they started. I spend almost a billion dollars to mess with them. Between buying health while sanctioned (survived about 3 hours on the list with only 100 health), and putting them up for sanctions for the maximum amount after they were retreating from my attacks, I spent like crazy. JUST to ruin their enjoyment of the game, because I hate pansy-ass sanctions. I could have increased my income about a million dollars with that billion, but I just felt the need to stick it to this poser, and another million of income is just about worthless.

It pisses me off to be sanctioned, and keeps the sanctioner on the top of my "to--with" list. That is not a good idea when you cant survive a sanction war yourself. Nothing is worse in this game to get into a war when you cant even fight off a random farmer.

[Unregistered]

because I hate pansy-ass sanctions.

Sounds like sanctions work VERY well against you, actually... if yer gonna farm them anyway, pissing you off and making you work for it a bit seems like a great plan.

Anyone who suggests you simply "roll over and take it" probably doesn't have your interests in mind when they do it. I know if I was a farmer, that's what I'd be telling the sheep anyway...

[Unregistered]

I got farmed pretty regularly for about 2 weeks straight. I only lost 2 mil. to him (I started banking religiously after that loss) and he only got win stats off me after that.

Completely ignored the guy. No messages, no sanctions..Nada.

I'm solidly defended now, and the attacks have stopped. I just can't find the clown now for a little payback.

[wackanoob]

Sounds like sanctions work VERY well against you, actually... if yer gonna farm them anyway, pissing you off and making you work for it a bit seems like a great plan.

Anyone who suggests you simply "roll over and take it" probably doesn't have your interests in mind when they do it. I know if I was a farmer, that's what I'd be telling the sheep anyway...

Well, if by "roll over and take it" you mean, "stop giving milk, and you will stop getting milked", then yes.


Thing is, "Farmers," by definition, are opportunists. We go after the easy target. Very often, 4 or 5 wins are all a farmer can get. The target either cant be found on the battle board again, the soft link is gone, or the farmer levels up and has a new harem of cattle to slaughter.

So, the only way to keep a true farmers attention is to somehow find a way to keep your name front and center as he is farming. Might be worth the trouble to "make me work," but if the farming was a problem, I assure you, the war will not make you smile a giggle about how you have "stuck it to me."

[Unregistered]

Thing is, "Farmers," by definition, are opportunists. We go after the easy target. Very often, 4 or 5 wins are all a farmer can get. The target either cant be found on the battle board again, the soft link is gone, or the farmer levels up and has a new harem of cattle to slaughter.

If you are a serious PITA to a real "opportunist", then he'll soon pick a different target. If it ticks him off, then he's a). not a real farmer and b). someone you can mess with. That is a Really Good Thing... At least at higher levels, you can do 20-ish sanctions for what one full payout loss, or about 1/10th the cost of a single replacement unit. CHEAP FUN! Camping is boring... why not spice it up?

Knowing that you can inconvienience, or better yet really upset someone = payback. It's not ideal obviously, but it's much better (imho) than getting farmed and doing nothing to return the favor. And besides, it's part of the game, why WOULDN'T you do it? Tossing someone on the sanction board gives other folks the chance to farm HIM... where's the downside? ;)

[Agent_Wurstbrot]

The point I was trying to make is exactly the one I already made. You said it's nearly possible to defend against that sort of thing and I'm saying it's not that hard to defend it.

You said you can close the defense gap to higher levels by buying defense buildings. This tactis may actualy be possible, but it´s certainly not "not hard". It requires a lot of time and devotion, and it also slows down your progress in the game a lot. In the higher levels and since you can use 6 units per ally, this tactic has become nearly impossible to use.

[trenae]

You said you can close the defense gap to higher levels by buying defense buildings. This tactis may actualy be possible, but it´s certainly not "not hard". It requires a lot of time and devotion, and it also slows down your progress in the game a lot. In the higher levels and since you can use 6 units per ally, this tactic has become nearly impossible to use.

LOL no it hasn't. Some of us are still using this. It's very effective if you started out full defense from the get go. :D Hasn't slowed my progress down much at all. It's all in how you set yourself up and what you are doing with your defense. Pre update my defense was A LOT more then I was ever going to need at the lower levels then the update changed and I"m in a very good position with my defense still. Like I said - all in how you set yourself up.

[Agent_Wurstbrot]

So, which level are you? And how long did it take you to get there? How long did you have to camp?

[trenae]

So, which level are you? And how long did it take you to get there? How long did you have to camp?

And who are you directing your questions to?

[godfather70]

I used to be farm every day by a few guys.. amazing after i build up my defense... i wasnt being attack a single time yesterday ..... :)

[Agent_Wurstbrot]

And who are you directing your questions to?

To you obviously. Anyways, you´ve already made it clear you don´t want to answer.

[NZld]

I just had an amusing thought.

If you were being farmed by just one person, change your country to be the same as his, then he can't attack. That sure would be funny.

Has any farmee out there done this, or any farmer seen it done?

Peace
NZid

[Agent_Wurstbrot]

Wizzard LL has done this. He was camping naked and I still had an old comment from him. :cool:

[Riverrat]

I just had an amusing thought.

If you were being farmed by just one person, change your country to be the same as his, then he can't attack. That sure would be funny.

Has any farmee out there done this, or any farmer seen it done?

Peace
NZid

I've done this... kinda happened by accident, changed from US to Britt and a guy i had been battling back and forth with left me a comm "WTF? I can't attack you anymore?"

[trenae]

To you obviously. Anyways, you´ve already made it clear you don´t want to answer.

Well there is more then one person posting in this thread so no it was not obvious who you were directing your questions to.

The only thing I made clear in this thread is what I've already posted. Fact is fact and I'm sorry that you have not been able to do as some of us have done with defense and closing gaps however I do not reveal on this forum any of my game information other then the basics - which you can find by reading other threads if you really want to know - other then that information you won't find me posting much about my character - and yes there is a reason for that but thanks for your interset but I'm going to skip answering your questions. Now I've made it clear I'm not going to answer your questions.

[Agent_Wurstbrot]

q.e.d.



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[SamFreedom]

I don't REALLY hate farmers... in fact, if I weren't part of an army with rules, I might engage in a bit of it myself... but I have my limits. If you hit someone 10-15 times.... 3x per day... that's a bit over the top.

[Blownapart]

I don't REALLY hate farmers... in fact, if I weren't part of an army with rules, I might engage in a bit of it myself... but I have my limits. If you hit someone 10-15 times.... 3x per day... that's a bit over the top.

Do you have any idea how much health that other person needs to have to be able to do this?! :)

I am sure you will agree that anyone that has that much health needs to shown the error of his way asap, before they put any more skill points in health!!! :D

In fact, one may argue that had that person run across a farmer prior to putting that amount of skill in health, he may not be in the predicament he finds himself today!

SamFreedom - come join the dark side!! :p

[pengbo]

Farmers best Xmas present: Player with little to no defense, massive income and the holy grail:- limitless health.

I have found the odd one or two of these. I have 10 ammo and managed to use them all without pausing to rest. Needless to say they are on my permanent visit list as they are still clueless :eek::D

[Agitator]

I have a beautifil cow named Zhu Rong (lvl 50) who yields 12-13 mill for every hit. I think i probably hit him around 13-14 times a day since he left me an alliance invite which i am yet to accept, and thus i have a permanent link to him.
He has used every single technique to avoid the farming, he sanctioned me, he told some friends to sanction me, he insulted me, he told some friends that they should insult me, and he finally praised me and said i was the best player ever, that we should become a duo.
I just have this terrible urge to tell him that he should get some defenses, but i dont, and i keep up the massive farming.(It's ridiculous, he has like 5 bunkers and 4 guard towers and ****loads of income buildings)

[forwardmarch]

Agitator

LOL,

If he doesn't figure it out, he needs to be farmed. And at lvl 50, you have to have a good understanding of the game.

Sorry, no sympathy for ppl on this.

Have atleast 85% defensive cover against best unit max attack within 10 lvls.

[niiro]

I don't REALLY hate farmers... in fact, if I weren't part of an army with rules, I might engage in a bit of it myself... but I have my limits. If you hit someone 10-15 times.... 3x per day... that's a bit over the top.

I hate farmers with a passion.

Yup, no contradictions whatsoever here, captain!

The best was to deter a farmer is to get a good defense. No need to turn this thead into a 'Is farming bad?' thread. Because it isn't LOL.

[ianhull]

Well, if by "roll over and take it" you mean, "stop giving milk, and you will stop getting milked", then yes.


Thing is, "Farmers," by definition, are opportunists. We go after the easy target. Very often, 4 or 5 wins are all a farmer can get. The target either cant be found on the battle board again, the soft link is gone, or the farmer levels up and has a new harem of cattle to slaughter.

So, the only way to keep a true farmers attention is to somehow find a way to keep your name front and center as he is farming. Might be worth the trouble to "make me work," but if the farming was a problem, I assure you, the war will not make you smile a giggle about how you have "stuck it to me."

I think the absolutely bestest thing you can do is join a clan. The one I think is better than all the rest is BTB which is run by this really nice lady called PoppyBlue and she also has a friend called uncle Joseph who tells us what to do.

They have lots and lots of members like over 700 which is a very very lot.

When you join aunty Poppy puts her special sign on your wall which warns all the nasty farmers that they must stop or she will get very very cross with them. This makes the nasty farmer really really scared and after he takes some of your money and kills you some times then he goes away I think.

[Unregisterordie]

show them a picture of yourself. they will go running the other way.

[som1976]

Well I am a farmer and I need to keep my income growing to cope with the deployment of units I require. I want to say how I deal with this sanc problem..

1. I noticed most often I get sanc immediately after I have just completed a farming. I will just allow the loser to sanc me (once, twice and many times) as they want.

2. Donot restore my health, (my weapon is farming and his is sanctioning), so no point in restoring until he is done.

3. Wait for 5-6 hrs and then start farming again. By this time mine as well as the farms health has generated to full. Most of the time he cannot sanc me again as he is done for the day.

4. Never engage more than two farms at any given point of time. There is no harm in camping a bit. This ensures that my health is not wasted all the time in sancs.

5. Pick up farms quite high above you, most of time from the sanc board where you see farms leaving comms in the sanctioned wall. This makes the farms more annoyed, nobody likes to loose from someone quite below his own level this is just like a insult to them and most of the times they are helpless.

[Agent_Wurstbrot]

Well I am a farmer and I need to keep my income growing to cope with the deployment of units I require. I want to say how I deal with this sanc problem..

You still have much to learn, young Jedi. E.g. you won´t make much profit if farming only one cow at a time. Also, restoring while being sanctioned can be a great tactic for avoiding being mass sanced, for picking up new cows and for driving the sanctioner crazy. :)

Farming higher levels is a good tactic also because their max money loss is limited much higher. So you can drain more out of them before they retreat. :cool:

[wackanoob]

I just took pitty on a farm last night.

However, I have changed my strategy to deal with these farms sanctioning me.

1. As soon as I get sanctioned, I farm them to lower my health, and Sanction them an equal number of times. About 90% get it and back off.

2. I wake up, farm them, then have a friend sanction them to get 25 more "farming" attacks, then sanction then 5 times to cover the links, then farm followed with 5 more sanctions until they quit.

Honestly, I can't understand why farms fight back with sanctions... I can do that AND win battles. One guy got hit for under 75 million, started a fight with me. In a week, my deaths went up by about 100, loses went up 15: his fights lost went up 500, lost about 2.5 billion to me, and died about 200 times.

How did he win? I had leveled up before his first sanction...

This is why I don't think sanctions work.


I love the players who sanction me, and then say, "you farm me and then sanction!?"
Well yeah, why not?

[godfather70]

Just to share. The last time i was farmed consistently by a bugger who is few levels above me (prob left some links for him to do so in my early noob stage) . I sanctioned him practically every hours for consective 3 days. I time my sanaction nicely every hour to stop him from farming me.. It doesnt works at all... Within this days, he got near to 0 income but that doesnt deters him from farming me.. Sanction is useless in this game if you are doing it alone... Unless its a clan sanction....

How did i get out of being farm by this bugger? Came out of my camp mode, calculated his offensive using vorpal spreadsheet. Bring my alliance up and match my defense vs his offensive. Once he got his 1st loss, he stop farming....

Bottom line there is no way to deter a farmer except getting ur defensive right.... Sanctions is not going to work....

[pengbo]

As a farmer there thing that stops me dead is losing. If I lose it hurts unit wise and therefore costs an arm and a leg so ?I go look for easier prey.

The 2nd thing that stops me is if my return is to low. If the cost of replacing units lost is more than the amount won then it's not worth it. However if the amount won equals costs then that's counted as a win as the xp is enough to balance the equation in my favour. So having zero cash is not enough if I don't lose units attacking you as I get xp and that is usually worth having as well.

[striker]

So having zero cash is not enough if I don't lose units attacking you as I get xp and that is usually worth having as well.

Question: why would this be? I consider XP to be my enemy. In the same situation, I would stop attacking because I don't want to level up without growing my economy.

[Unregisteredd]

When it would happen to me (I've built enough defense that I don't get farmed any more.) I simply ignored it and they always moved on.

What bothers me now is the "loser farmer". IE: The tard who attacks 3-4 times, and loses every single battle. WTF? I'm trying to camp and these tards keep forcing me to level.

[Arthur007]

What I love is people who get all put out that i only comment on my wall... and they call me stupid for not leaving links (by writing 15 times on my wall thereby ensuring i always can find them LOL)... but i digress

I was attacked everyday until i stopped incoming and started def. building... once i got over 1000 bunkers i could go 8 days without an attack...

to answer unreg question why farmers attack if they lose... i know this is a really hard concept to understand but not everyone that attacks more than once is a farmer... i know its scary and terrorizing... but sometimes people want to drop their health and need 3-4 ammo to do it... so they find someone who they lose a sig amt to and attack multiple times to ensure safety as they rest... duh! LOL...

Back to the original question... I attack until it is no longer profitable to do so. Provoke me (i.e. call names spam my wall ) then your asking for more personalized attention. Again dont whine about the consequences... and with trenea i think it was NEVER send out invites... post your code on your wall and make them invite you so you can check out the comments stats and units to screen potential farmers...

-- the only other thing is if you drop allies to 4 can they still attack you? not sure the math on the level gap... and another option... rather than camp... farm them... take some well saved cash buy some airplanes and give him a taste of his own medicine- sure it can make him pissed... but it might force him to level... and it would show him u mean business...

my 2 cents
God Save the Queen!

[pengbo]

Question: why would this be? I consider XP to be my enemy. In the same situation, I would stop attacking because I don't want to level up without growing my economy.

Because when I am attacking it's because I want to level up fast. The best way to level up is to do missions and to attack. The best way to attack is to farm.

If I don't want to level up I camp and don't attack. Although leveling is unavoidable as when I camp I win all fights against me I will eventually level up. It's so slow though it takes ages. I find that kind of leveling immensley ammusing though. The best ones are the ones that throw themsleves against my defenses 5 or 6 times in a row.