Need desperate help!!!!!!

[Preformer]

Oh my God - I thought I was doing good in World War, but I was wrong.....WAY wrong.......

I get about 4 Million Per Hour, but I am on level 48 - That's absolutely horrible compared to what some of you guys have.

I hear stories of people online, where they are on only level 36, and yet, their income is like, 60 mil. per hour - HOW!?!?!?!?!?

I must have went horribely wrong somewhere - I must have made wrong decisions.

I'm really looking for major help to help me get back on the right track, and to increase my income.....I didn't make this thread for no good reason - I'm not asking for help; I'm begging for it....

My units:

Infantry:

Minigunners - 170
Fireteam - 170
Marines - 170
Paratroopers - 170
Medics - 169
Grenadiers - 170
Snipers - 168
Navy Seals - 170
Heavy Machine Gunners - 170
Commandos - 55
Tank Blasters - 0

Ground:

Supply Trucks - 49
Hum-Vee - 49
Light Tank - 50
Mobile Artillery - 48
Armored Personel Carrier - 38
Stealth Tank - 10
Heavy Equipment Transporter - 5
Amphibious Assault Vehicle - 5
SSM Launcher - 5
Armored Snow Hovercraft - 2
Mammoth Tank - 2

Water:

Cruiser - 40
Transport - 40
Firgate - 40
Naval Tanker - 15
Naval Destroyer - 3
M80 Stiletto - 5
Submarine - 1
Helicopter Carrier - 1
Battleship - 1
Aircraft Carrier - 1

Air:

Fighter - 20
Cargo Chopper - 19
Patrol Plane - 18
Harrier Jet - 8
Comanche Helicopter - 3
B-1 Lancer - 2
Stealth Jet - 2
X-20 Supersonic Aircraft - 1
Apache Helicopter - 0
B-2 Bomber - 0

Buildings:

Supply Depot - 28
Bunker - 23
Refinery - 23
Barrack - 1
Guard Tower - 1
Weapons Factoy - 29
Anti-Aircraft Launcher - 1
Power Plant - 18
Turret - 1
Airfield - 1
Landmine Field - 1
Oil Rig - 7
Communications Center - 1
Military Research Lab - 1
Nuclear Testing Facility - 1

Sad, I know - I just really want some help on what I should do - do I buy more buildings with income?? Do I buy more buildings with defense? Do I sell buildings??

Please - I know some of you out there are extremely good at this game - and right now, I'm in a major hole - please try to help me get out....

Preformer

[pohc]

Sell your useless units. Take into account that when you go into battle, you use your best defense units(when attacked) and best offensive units(when attacking). That will help with the upkeep. Just buy the best units for defense and the best units for offense. Stop doing missions or attacking people and let your income build. Just CAMP, basically. Unless you want to start over.

[trenae]

I'd recommned getting yourself set up with Vorpal's spread (it's a sticky in the WW Discussion area of the forum).

Some might tell you to reset but I don't think you need to.

You need to camp and build your income.

Vorpal's spread once you plug in your info with money you have to invest will tell you what your next 100 best income generating buildings are.

Don't sell buildings. Yes always invest in income and defense (I'm pro defense :) )

[tyler384]

Sell everything except 12 of your best defense units and get rid of all except 4 allies. Get over 1300 defense then build nothing but income buildings. You can do it without getting rid of your allies, but you'll need a lot more defense buildings and may get attacked more. Use the spreadsheet or a calculator like justcalcit to decide which buildings to buy. Buy new buildings twice a day if not more.

[Preformer]

Is there any way to disband several units at a time as opposed to disbanding only one at a time?

[trenae]

Is there any way to disband several units at a time as opposed to disbanding only one at a time?


See post #13.

[Preformer]

No there isn't.

Oh God.......

[Preformer]

LOL... Maybe it's overwhelming to do all at one time. So maybe just do it in bunches or something then take a break and go back to it.

Maybe I should request something like that to Storm8......have a space that you enter how many units you want to disband and then jut press ok and then bam....

[Preformer]

Cause its just a pain in the but to delete units one by one......what if u have 1000 units? Thats gonna suck 4 u!!!

[trenae]

Cause its just a pain in the but to delete units one by one......what if u have 1000 units? Thats gonna suck 4 u!!!


Lucky for some of us we knew of the calculator and spreadsheet - those are very helpful tools. So we haven't bought too many of anything where we'd need to disband that many. Seriously though the spread is super helpful.

[kennyg23]

Is there any way to disband several units at a time as opposed to disbanding only one at a time?

No there isn't.

Actually it is possible. Disband one unit and once it is disbanded it will say something like successful, you have disbanded 1 rocketeer... Disband more units?. Click the disband more units link and it will bring you to a scroll down list that will give you the option to disband between 1-1000 units (in certain intervals though). You can also do this to purchase units also

[trenae]

Actually it is possible. Disband one unit and once it is disbanded it will say something like successful, you have disbanded 1 rocketeer... Disband more units?. Click the disband more units link and it will bring you to a scroll down list that will give you the option to disband between 1-1000 units (in certain intervals though). You can also do this to purchase units also

Oh thanks for the correction - I knew for buildings but hadn't seen for units. Sorry Preformer - guess now you won't have to do it in groups.

Good luck with your disbanding. :)

[kennyg23]

Oh thanks for the correction - I knew for buildings but hadn't seen for units.

No problem. Just have to correct some more of your useless posts, LMAO. :p ;)
(that was a joke just in case you didn't catch it)

[trenae]

No problem. Just have to correct some more of your useless posts, LMAO. :p ;)
(that was a joke just in case you didn't catch it)

hahahahaha very NOT funny!!! LOL besides you're just jealous of my post count. :p

Ok now to edit the ones with wrong info. :)

[heliovane]

You know I actually can't remember if this has been brought up before.

http://forums.storm8.com/forumdisplay.php?f=15
LOOK Here!!!

[Preformer]

Yay!!!!

Easier disbanding!!!

Thank you :)

[trenae]

http://forums.storm8.com/forumdisplay.php?f=15
LOOK Here!!!

Hmmm... yeah thanks - I know where to look. AND I even know how to search the forum. So thanks for the info on where to look but I already know btw search feature much faster. But back on topic of the thread.

Yay!!!!

Easier disbanding!!!

Thank you :)


Sorry dude - I knew about the buildings but not units. So yay now you can save your fingers some pain. :)

[kennyg23]

Oh my God - I thought I was doing good in World War, but I was wrong.....WAY wrong.......

I get about 4 Million Per Hour, but I am on level 48 - That's absolutely horrible compared to what some of you guys have.

I hear stories of people online, where they are on only level 36, and yet, their income is like, 60 mil. per hour - HOW!?!?!?!?!?

I must have went horribely wrong somewhere - I must have made wrong decisions.

Please - I know some of you out there are extremely good at this game - and right now, I'm in a major hole - please try to help me get out....

Preformer

I just hit level 35 today and am making $60 million per hour gross with $55 million/hour after upkeep (full fleet of aircraft carriers). I got my experience from playing other games that are similar to this. I learned that making money is the KEY to doing good in these games.

My best opinion is to camp with the lowest amount of allies possible and to invest all your money that you make into income producing buildings. I would NOT recommend resetting since you have all of the buildings unlocked and your ROI is really good right now.

[kennyg23]

Yay!!!!

Easier disbanding!!!

Thank you :)

No prob. Thats what we are here for.

[Preformer]

OK, I got just a few more questions.....

I really dont know the details to this game - all i know is that buildings r good and high attack and defense units r good also.....

1) Why do I want a few allies as possible when trying to make a bigger income??

2) Could someone explain to me how many allies i can use per whatever lvl u r? cause that confuses me......

3) also, what do allies do? do they make you stronger??

[trenae]

OK, I got just a few more questions.....

I really dont know the details to this game - all i know is that buildings r good and high attack and defense units r good also.....

1) Why do I want a few allies as possible when trying to make a bigger income??

2) Could someone explain to me how many allies i can use per whatever lvl u r? cause that confuses me......

3) also, what do allies do? do they make you stronger??


1) So you don't have to have equipment for them for one and the other would be to keep you in a bracket with lower allies. (I'm sure someone will add on)

2) 5x your level - so for like level 10 you use 50 allies

3) yeah in a way - gives you more to attack/defend with

[Preformer]

hmm....ok

but is there any way to mass delete allies??

cause thats gonna take a while 4 me XD

OH, btw, i deleted some of m
y useless units.....like the ones that dont give any attack and defense.......

[trenae]

hmm....ok

but is there any way to mass delete allies??

cause thats gonna take a while 4 me XD

OH, btw, i deleted some of m
y useless units.....like the ones that dont give any attack and defense.......

I don't think that there is a way to mass delete allies - since the remove button is next to each alliance members name.

Oh good that you got rid of some units - that'll help since you don't have useless ones now. :)

[Preformer]

yah.....my income now is up 2 4,421,775 - good? bad?

[trenae]

yah.....my income now is up 2 4,421,775 - good? bad?

Yay... It's getting better but I think you have a ways to go still. You'll get there though.

Invest, invest, invest. :)

Here's a thread you can reference. I haven't gone through the whole thing but you might find it usefull.
http://forums.storm8.com/showthread.php?t=2641&highlight=what%27s+income

[Preformer]

Yay... It's getting better but I think you have a ways to go still. You'll get there though.

Invest, invest, invest. :)

Here's a thread you can reference. I haven't gone through the whole thing but you might find it usefull.
http://forums.storm8.com/showthread.php?t=2641&highlight=what%27s+income

oh yeah, i was reading that earlier - according to the "chart" im waaaay off XD

but ill keep u guys updated....

thansk again for all the help :)

[pengbo]

I hear stories of people online, where they are on only level 36, and yet, their income is like, 60 mil. per hour - HOW!?!?!?!?!?

Ahem. *cough* don't want to depress you but 113 M net at level 42 with 36,000 defense.

Now some useful advice. Whatever you do don't delete units unless you can do it safely and then imediately re-invest in defense until money used up. The way to do that is to make sure your health is less than 27 so noone can attack you and nick your money. I did that once and lost tons :mad:

The reason you go for 4 allies is because on the battle screen it has been observed that you only tend to see players with similar allie counts which people call brackets. The lowest bracket seems to be 1-4 allies. This means that if you have 4 allies you will be at the top of your bracket and the best anyone attacking you will have is 4 allies. 4 allies means 12 units. 12 units means very low upkeep. I would aim for having 12 aircraft carriers and nothing eles that costs upkeep. Once you get your 100 mill an hour income you can buy them all back if you want :D

So at your level best attack is a B2 with 110 attack * 12 = 1320. Best defense is 12 aircraft carriers with def of 60 * 12 = 720. 1320 - 720 = 600. Therefore if you buy defense buildings to the tune of minimum 600 defenseive points then in theory you should be invunerable from attack and you can concentrate on income building without getting it stolen. However it assumes roughly equal attack and defense skill points and that is a bit of an unknown so go for about 800 def building points or if you can 1200.

Then do as trenae suggested and get Vorpal's spreadsheet and follow it's recommendations for which buildings to buy to give you best ROI.

[Preformer]

Ahem. *cough* don't want to depress you but 113 M net at level 42 with 36,000 defense.

Now some useful advice. Whatever you do don't delete units unless you can do it safely and then imediately re-invest in defense until money used up. The way to do that is to make sure your health is less than 27 so noone can attack you and nick your money. I did that once and lost tons :mad:

The reason you go for 4 allies is because on the battle screen it has been observed that you only tend to see players with similar allie counts which people call brackets. The lowest bracket seems to be 1-4 allies. This means that if you have 4 allies you will be at the top of your bracket and the best anyone attacking you will have is 4 allies. 4 allies means 12 units. 12 units means very low upkeep. I would aim for having 12 aircraft carriers and nothing eles that costs upkeep. Once you get your 100 mill an hour income you can buy them all back if you want :D

So at your level best attack is a B2 with 110 attack * 12 = 1320. Best defense is 12 aircraft carriers with def of 60 * 12 = 720. 1320 - 720 = 600. Therefore if you buy defense buildings to the tune of minimum 600 defenseive points then in theory you should be invunerable from attack and you can concentrate on income building without getting it stolen. However it assumes roughly equal attack and defense skill points and that is a bit of an unknown so go for about 800 def building points or if you can 1200.

Then do as trenae suggested and get Vorpal's spreadsheet and follow it's recommendations for which buildings to buy to give you best ROI.


Hmm........ok, thanks a lot!! I will consider ur advice....

UPDATE: just so you guys know, i woke up with 40 mil this morning!!!

And another question - dont get mad cause i dont really know the details 2 this game XD

But when u have lower allies, it will put u in a bracket with the same amount of allies u have - i get that - but does it put u with a group of members with a lower level with u? cause if it does, then u could win easily....

[kennyg23]

Hmm........ok, thanks a lot!! I will consider ur advice....

UPDATE: just so you guys know, i woke up with 40 mil this morning!!!

And another question - dont get mad cause i dont really know the details 2 this game XD

But when u have lower allies, it will put u in a bracket with the same amount of allies u have - i get that - but does it put u with a group of members with a lower level with u? cause if it does, then u could win easily....

It is all people of the same level but with the same amount of members that you have (1-4,5-9,10-14, etc.). Only problem is at a certain point, the brackets disappear and your 4 members might be put up against somebody that has 200 members

[Preformer]

It is all people of the same level but with the same amount of members that you have (1-4,5-9,10-14, etc.). Only problem is at a certain point, the brackets disappear and your 4 members might be put up against somebody that has 200 members

well thats stupid XD

but thats the game i guess.......

I also have 345 honor points - im saving them up.....and i know how it goes - the higher income you have, the more honor points the president will give you per 10 honor points.....

so yeah, im good on that....

ok 1 last time.....y do i want my allies as low as possible?

Update - I know have 3 allies with 68 mil in my vault - whats my next step?

[pengbo]

Update - I know have 3 allies with 68 mil in my vault - whats my next step?

What's your defense point total for buildings? Do you still have 9 AC? if not buy 9 AC and then get to as many defense building points you think you need to be safe.

The goal is to get your self reasonably attack proof so you can start on your income building program without anyone stealing too much of it. If you do it right you will get loads of attacks but comfortably win them all and you can just concentrate of income buildings.

[Preformer]

What's your defense point total for buildings? Do you still have 9 AC? if not buy 9 AC and then get to as many defense building points you think you need to be safe.

The goal is to get your self reasonably attack proof so you can start on your income building program without anyone stealing too much of it. If you do it right you will get loads of attacks but comfortably win them all and you can just concentrate of income buildings.

how od i find my defense for buildings?

I have to add the defense up or does it say it somewhere?

[pengbo]

how od i find my defense for buildings?

I have to add the defense up or does it say it somewhere?

Yes you have to add it up it doesn't tell you it anywhere :( That's why Vorpal's spreeadsheet is so handy or you can just stick the values in a blank spreadsheet and add them up that way.

The advantage with Vorpal's spreadsheet if you have excel 2007 or upload it to google docs is it will tell you the best combintion of defense buildings to buy for the money you have and the level you are. This is basedon ROI which I believe to be the best way to go but some dispute this. It's you're decision though.

[Preformer]

its only 247 - THATS HORRIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[kennyg23]

how od i find my defense for buildings?

I have to add the defense up or does it say it somewhere?

just add it up yourself. You may not even need to purchase defensive units depending on how many attack points are available at your level. A good example would be my setup. I have 54 allies which can have a max of 5940 attack points with the B2 bombers. I have over 10,000 defensive points through buildings which means I have no reason to purchase defensive units which gives me back 3 million/hour or 72 million/day.

[Preformer]

oh never mind guys - i didnt add up the defense of my units......recalculating

UPDATE::::::::

My total defense is now 10607 - good? bad? indifferent?

[kennyg23]

oh never mind guys - i didnt add up the defense of my units......recalculating

UPDATE::::::::

My total defense is now 10607 - good? bad? indifferent?

What level are you at? All you really need is to figure out how many attack points other people can get in your bracket to determine how many defense points you will need. 10,000 seems like overkill to me though with only 4 allies. If you are still at level 48 then they can only have 440 attack points with 4 allies (110x4 for the B2 bomber). To be safe I would say that 1000 defense points would be enough to fend off attacks.

[Blownapart]

My total defense is now 10607 - good? bad? indifferent?

If you are lvl 48 with only 3 allies, and the 'alliance bracket' is holding, (ie you only see people with 1-4 allies on your battleboard), then you are in a good defensive position. (although always try to be at the top of your alliance bracket!) If you devide 10607 by 110 (attack points of a B2), you get roughly 100. Your total defense (units and buildings), can almost defend against 100 B2s.. i.e. opponents with around 33 allies. So if you are only showing up on the battle boards of people with 1-4 allies, you are fine, and can relax on buying defenses for the time being and concentrate on income building.

Top tip: Do not comment on other people's boards.. Your comments can be seen by others and potentially by opponents with more than 33 allies!

Contrary to what Kenny says above: You can NEVER have a defense overkill! :D Also, 4 allies can command 3 B2s each. ie attack will be 110x12= 1320 attack points..

[trenae]

Contrary to what Kenny says above: You can NEVER have a defense overkill! :D

I don't think there's a such thing as defense overkill either. :)

[kennyg23]

If you are lvl 48 with only 3 allies, and the 'alliance bracket' is holding, (ie you only see people with 1-4 allies on your battleboard), then you are in a good defensive position. (although always try to be at the top of your alliance bracket!) If you devide 10607 by 110 (attack points of a B2), you get roughly 100. Your total defense (units and buildings), can almost defend against 100 B2s.. i.e. opponents with around 33 allies. So if you are only showing up on the battle boards of people with 1-4 allies, you are fine, and can relax on buying defenses for the time being and concentrate on income building.

Top tip: Do not comment on other people's boards.. Your comments can be seen by others and potentially by opponents with more than 33 allies!

Contrary to what Kenny says above: You can NEVER have a defense overkill! :D Also, 4 allies can command 3 B2s each. ie attack will be 110x12= 1320 attack points..
well im sure 1320 v 10000 is kinda stupid to me. I would cut it down to 5000 so you can make a little more money per hour. And good call on the 110x12. I knew 440 seemed way too low, lol

[pengbo]

well im sure 1320 v 10000 is kinda stupid to me. I would cut it down to 5000 so you can make a little more money per hour. And good call on the 110x12. I knew 440 seemed way too low, lol

Why sell def buildings? They don't cost anything in upkeep!!!! :confused:

[trenae]

Why sell def buildings? They don't cost anything in upkeep!!!! :confused:

Exactly!!

But I guess one could argue if you don't need them then it's wasted money. Just depends how you look at it.

I go with the more defense the better. :)

[pengbo]

But I guess one could argue if you don't need them then it's wasted money. Just depends how you look at it.

I go with the more defense the better. :)

Exactly. I have one eye on those dreads and I am nearly in range. 10,000 to go to close my def gap but it's getting harder to buy def build think I need to go into income mode again for a bit and put another 50 mill on net.

Selling def buldings once bought is a waste of money. Maybe it's waste until you need them as well but I find when I stop someone gets through :(

[Blownapart]

well im sure 1320 v 10000 is kinda stupid to me. I would cut it down to 5000 so you can make a little more money per hour.

It could become more useful if he gets sanctioned, or if he has left a link.. If he gets caught up in a war, he can get attacked by people going up to lvl 60. If they have max allies and B2, that means an attack of 99,000 pts!!

I certainly would not buy any more at this point, but I wouldn't sell them either..

[pereirabass]

I'm interested if the brackets are holding your level?
Thanks.

[Preformer]

Quick update guys....

i now got 200 of the following:

medics
grenadiers
snipers
navy seals
heavy machine gunners
rocketeers
and tank blasters

i got 15 aircraft carriers, 16 b-2's and 15 apaches....

not really sure if i told u guys that but oh well :)

[pereirabass]

Quick update guys....

i now got 200 of the following:

medics
grenadiers
snipers
navy seals
heavy machine gunners
rocketeers
and tank blasters

i got 15 aircraft carriers, 16 b-2's and 15 apaches....

not really sure if i told u guys that but oh well :)

Just wondering if you reduced your allies, if so are the brackets holding?
In other words, are the opponents on your battle screen of the same number of alliance members?