Fast way to levl up

[galacticangel]

Hi.Im level 13 making $160000 gold a hr and want to move up.It takes so long.I never get attacked.So what are your ways of leveling up fast?

[trenae]

You can do more quests. Or just start attacking people and they'll probably attack you back and then get experience that way.

[Agsded]

Hi.Im level 13 making $160000 gold a hr and want to move up.It takes so long.I never get attacked.So what are your ways of leveling up fast?

Get at least 5-7 spirit to use when attacking people, you'll have to log on often to attack a lot and get that exp.

Do the most efficient quest possible for your level. Divide the mana cost by the experience gained and the quest with the lowest number is your best quest to do.

[galacticangel]

Thx to both answersWill follow advice

[trenae]

Thx to both answersWill follow advice

Careful in what you ask for though - you probably won't say that you don't get attacked again. :D

Good luck!

[whisper]

Best quest at that level is in the FOREST - Fight deadly spiders..alls u need is a crossbow and 2 lightnings.

[Agsded]

Best quest at that level is in the FOREST - Fight deadly spiders..alls u need is a crossbow and 2 lightnings.

It's not available at level 13 I'm pretty sure.


But as far as I can tell it is the most efficient quest PERIOD, at least up to level 72 where I'm at.

[trenae]

It's not available at level 13 I'm pretty sure.


That's correct - forest quests start at lvl 20.

[Unregistered]

the advice there is terrible anyone with a brain would relise that.
i have moved up the levels so fast i just add spirit and attack points thus allowing me to attack 30 battles at a time gettin loads of exp and money

[trenae]

the advice there is terrible anyone with a brain would relise that.
i have moved up the levels so fast i just add spirit and attack points thus allowing me to attack 30 battles at a time gettin loads of exp and money

What advice is terrible? You didn't say anything that was that different from the other responses.

Only so many ways you can move up in the games.

[whisper]

your right asged...my bad the only one available i think is the Highlands quest - Trail Soldiers to Mountain Outpost
its not as good as the other one but very close.


BAD ADVICE...why is it bad advice..he said attack and quest. Both are good things to do when leveling. Quests give you cash, exp and loot items that have no upkeep and sometimes are way better then the next available item.Also its guaranteed not like the outcome of a fight or if you will get cash from the person.

[Líremir]

My personal tactic:
I am in the eighties, and I gained four levels in four days playing this way, and could have gotten more if I played more often. It;s totally up to you, but i find this the best method for me.

1. I only have 42 points in quests. Personally, I find quests a waste of time, and a waste of skill points. At the beginning they are useful, but later their value decreases. The best quest is fight deadly spiders in the woods. It requires 19 mana, and gives you 28 exp. This is the best ratio offered in quests.

2. I have put the rest of my skill points in to attack and defense. There is really no need to put points in to spirit if you play often. It recharges fast enough that it should be good. If you can afford it, invest in good defense. That way, you're likely to win any attack on you while you're offline. For this reason, I always heal my health when signing off. You don't get as much exp this way, but it is helpful.

3. Attack attack attack! This is how I get the most of my experience. I heal constantly, and attack people I know I can beat by looking through their weapons. I personally don't farm people, although there is a very mixed opinion about this. If your attack is high enough, and your weapons are top of the line, you don't have to worry about hitting the same person again and again if you can beat most players your level. Once I am home in the evening, I log on every half hour and drain my spirit. It takes five minutes to do, and you should gain a good amount of exp.

4. Make sure you get your army to it's max (5 * lvl) as soon as you can afford it. It may not matter much in the lower levels, but around level sixty, it puts people with small armies up against people with max armies, and even with the best defense possible, a small army is bound to lose.

5. Buy land first and foremost! This is the best way to insure you can earn the upkeep that grows exponentially later on. Upkeep may not seem bad now, but later items are 1000 gold and higher, and when you multiply that by several hundred (and eventually 1000) it gets to be very expensive.

6. I have never really camped, but I have spent time just sitting at sixty. I kept all of my armor and defensive spells so that I wouldn't lose money. Then I just let the game run itself for a week. If you have a relatively good income, you should earn money fast without worrying about upgrading your army at every level. Also, if you have friends who are camping, have them attack you. Every exp point counts.

Sorry for the length, but this is my strategy. I currently level daily. Your income may start to fall behind, and if it does, just stop, take it slow, buy some land, and then move on.

[Agsded]

My personal tactic:
I am in the eighties, and I gained four levels in four days playing this way, and could have gotten more if I played more often. It;s totally up to you, but i find this the best method for me.

1. I only have 42 points in quests. Personally, I find quests a waste of time, and a waste of skill points. At the beginning they are useful, but later their value decreases. The best quest is fight deadly spiders in the woods. It requires 19 mana, and gives you 28 exp. This is the best ratio offered in quests.

2. I have put the rest of my skill points in to attack and defense. There is really no need to put points in to spirit if you play often. It recharges fast enough that it should be good. If you can afford it, invest in good defense. That way, you're likely to win any attack on you while you're offline. For this reason, I always heal my health when signing off. You don't get as much exp this way, but it is helpful.

3. Attack attack attack! This is how I get the most of my experience. I heal constantly, and attack people I know I can beat by looking through their weapons. I personally don't farm people, although there is a very mixed opinion about this. If your attack is high enough, and your weapons are top of the line, you don't have to worry about hitting the same person again and again if you can beat most players your level. Once I am home in the evening, I log on every half hour and drain my spirit. It takes five minutes to do, and you should gain a good amount of exp.


*I cut off half your post because it was a long quote*

This is exactly what I do. I have the best defense I can get right now, and I just attack people and do the spider quest all day long. I would like to get up to 57 mana so I can do the spider quest 3x at a time (at a full recharge) and also because eventually I will do the quests for the good loot. When I level up I put 1 point into mana the other 2 into attack/defense.

[whisper]

Liremir

u forgot to tell him u have people attack u all day to reduce hitpoints and gain exp :P

The spider quest is the best one for leveling but hes nit at a high enough level for it.

Ive been attacking like crazy and when my spirit runs out i use my mana and quest for the high loot items to grab a few of the elite items. Ive gained 11 levels in the past week and a half.

[Líremir]

Liremir

u forgot to tell him u have people attack u all day to reduce hitpoints and gain exp :P

The spider quest is the best one for leveling but hes nit at a high enough level for it.

Ive been attacking like crazy and when my spirit runs out i use my mana and quest for the high loot items to grab a few of the elite items. Ive gained 11 levels in the past week and a half.

Haha, I did mention it. Wasn't one of my main points though. Tons of thanks for those who helped though. Speaking of which, I have a lot of BCs to do. I only had people attack me those days because I was unable to play. I always have campers attack me, I give out several links. I only play about two hours a day, so if someone followed this advice and played more than me, they could easily level several times a day. I just have way to much work to do and no internet access. I wish I had an iPhone.

[galacticangel]

Wow I like all the input from you guys.Really helpful.All I need now is to get to 20 and put some energy skill points in.All I have is attack and defense and maxed out on equipment.If I could ask to you high lvl players.What is your guys income.Is it better to get to a high lvl and camp there??As I have heard of people getting gold in millions.Personally I followed this route in Imobsters Where I camp for a few levels to have maxed out weapons then moved to lvl 15 and camped as the casinos have the highest income.Except Im not sure if the same tactic works here too?

[Líremir]

You could camp if you really wanted to, but I don't find it necessary. You definitely would want to wait until you had access to all the land at level 60 I think... My income right now at level 81 is 2,239,894 with a 792,196 upkeep cost, leaving me with a net income of 1,447,698. This I find is more than enough for maintaining costs, but most players opt for higher income. Keep in mind though, that I have never camped.

[Líremir]

Also, I don't play mobsters.... But it sounds like there is one that has a set income per cost? If so it is not that way in Kingdoms. Since the price of land increases with each purchase, the best value land is constantly changing. To figure out what to buy, you could do some calculations to figure out what is the best ratio, like I did for months... Or you could be smarter than me and use one of the online calculators that people have created. By following these land guides, you can easily maximize the amount of gold you receive from the amount you spend.

[whisper]

Im at 3,283,500 with a high upkeep of 1,7 mill leaves me a cool 1.5mill to buy land plus i make on average 600k-1mill an hur extra from attacking and questing.

DONT PUT ANY MONEY INTO HEALTH...EVER...u want to get hit and drop below 27 so your off the radar especially at night when your sleeping...before u go to bed attack higher levels like me or liremir and reduce your health..then u will only get hit a few times during the night.

I have crazy defence right now so i want the wins and have people use me to reduce hp. i have about 10 spirit and enough mana to do quests..the rest all goes into attack and defence.

[whisper]

Go here and download his spreadsheet


http://www.immoforums.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=3

very helpful and constantly updated

[Agsded]

Im at 3,283,500 with a high upkeep of 1,7 mill leaves me a cool 1.5mill to buy land plus i make on average 600k-1mill an hur extra from attacking and questing.

DONT PUT ANY MONEY INTO HEALTH...EVER...u want to get hit and drop below 27 so your off the radar especially at night when your sleeping...before u go to bed attack higher levels like me or liremir and reduce your health..then u will only get hit a few times during the night.

I have crazy defence right now so i want the wins and have people use me to reduce hp. i have about 10 spirit and enough mana to do quests..the rest all goes into attack and defence.


This is only if you can't defend against an attack, I love when I get attacked :)

[whisper]

This is only if you can't defend against an attack, I love when I get attacked :)


Thats why my last line says i enjoy getting attacked because of my crazy defence.

The only thing that sucks with the defence im finding is its upkeep is insane and you are limited to who u can attack. Hasnt been much of a problem. I just rolled over into the 80s and im finding everyone is either full attack or full defence and a few campers so you really have to take a look at who you are hitting. Good thing is you dont have to worry about attacks at all.

[Agsded]

Thats why my last line says i enjoy getting attacked because of my crazy defence.

The only thing that sucks with the defence im finding is its upkeep is insane and you are limited to who u can attack. Hasnt been much of a problem. I just rolled over into the 80s and im finding everyone is either full attack or full defence and a few campers so you really have to take a look at who you are hitting. Good thing is you dont have to worry about attacks at all.

The upkeep is insane? Dragon Fang + Shield of Illusion + Heavenly Restoration is the best defense combo AND it's far cheaper than the other strong combos. I think my upkeep is 2 mil even? Which IS a lot, but if I were to go full attack it would be around 4 million and if I tried to balance maybe 3 mil. This way I'm still making close to 1.6 million an hour after upkeep costs plus what I get from attacking people. I LOVE DEFENSE

[Líremir]

I have found that even at level eighty you don't need the top weapons in either attack or defense. I just have a few issues with the people with full attack points, but for the most part, I never lose an attack. I currently use teleports, shields of illusion, and some lower level weapon I'm forgetting about right now. I had purchased it before the introduction of the higher level items back when it was the best you could get for defense. Anyhow, point is that while the best items would be nice, they are not really necessary. I plan on upgrading eventually, but for the time being I see no need.
Again though, everyone has their own working strategy. I just need to buy more land.

[Unregistered]

Hah...agger i wasnt thinking about FULL ATTACK...id need to rob a few banks and buy billions of lps to afford those...i was thinking full attack affordable..infernos/dragons/runics

at level 82 full defence is 2.3 mill and would give me an attack of 27000 not enough to break myth lances teleports and dragon shields...so i supplement with mythril helmets..cheap attack points...which lets me just beat liremir :) (sorry buddy..had to )

Im not having any problems winning but i do have to be selective at this level.

[Agsded]

Hah...agger i wasnt thinking about FULL ATTACK...id need to rob a few banks and buy billions of lps to afford those...i was thinking full attack affordable..infernos/dragons/runics

at level 82 full defence is 2.3 mill and would give me an attack of 27000 not enough to break myth lances teleports and dragon shields...so i supplement with mythril helmets..cheap attack points...which lets me just beat liremir :) (sorry buddy..had to )

Im not having any problems winning but i do have to be selective at this level.

With full defense I never lose against Myth Lances, Teleports and D. Shields when attacking. Keep in mind those are the 1st generation strongest weapons correct? And now we have weapons that even though are defensive based, are double the power of last gen's most powerful weapons.

I only refrain from attacking when I see the max number of Runic Helms or Shields of Illusion, or Heavenly restorations. These are the key items to look for when choosing who to attack.

[galacticangel]

Another question to you guys?How did you guys distribute your skill points? Personally I have invested in both attack and defense and some energy.Do you know how much those points really have an effect.I see alot of people at the same level as me with the same exact things.I attack some but dont win as often as i think.Even with a even distribution of 1:1 ration on attack and defense.I have put more into attack now as I am going to just farm and attack my way up to higher levels with the energy as well.

[Líremir]

Another question to you guys?How did you guys distribute your skill points? Personally I have invested in both attack and defense and some energy.Do you know how much those points really have an effect.I see alot of people at the same level as me with the same exact things.I attack some but dont win as often as i think.Even with a even distribution of 1:1 ration on attack and defense.I have put more into attack now as I am going to just farm and attack my way up to higher levels with the energy as well.

Again, this is totally up to the individual. Personally, I find mana a waste of time. I pretty much neglect it completely. I put more points into defense because there are better attack items than defense items. Disregarding skill points, there is no way for someone with the best defensive items to win against a person with the best defense items. You do not need a lot of points in spirit, it recharges just as fast no matter how many points you put in to it and chances are you will run out of health before spirit if it gets too high, making you either heal or waste those remaining attacks. I have only ten, a nice even number which I'll never change. Finally, putting points in health is an absolute don't for most anybody. All it does is make you way more vulnerable when you are offline. My advice, stay away.

[whisper]

100 % agree with Liremir...DONT PUT MONEY INTO ENERGY. Your energy creeps up at night making it easier for people to keep attacking you and taking your cash while you sleep because your on the battlelist longer.

The only reason id want lots of energy is if i was going for wins and wanted to sit on the bounty list all day healing with max defence gear. Or your trying to take down a guy of the hit list with tons of energy which is a waste.

I have 10 spirit points which is perfect for me. When i get to a high level and dont have very many people on my battelist like 150-200 id invest in way more because you willneed to level by hitting guys off the BL.

I like having the mana as i personally want some of the higher loot items...but thats just me...i probably would have waited until i was a higher level but whats done is done. Now all my points go into attack and defence. I am somewhat different then Lirimer as i see alot of people camping or geared in defence..i usually buy defence gear and allocate to attack to break the strong D. Most people cant afford the best attack but they can afford the best d.


I wrote this in another thread but its more suited to this one

I looked at a couple where people say 30 levels higher would attack me. Looking at total def versus attack they should have lost but managed to win anyways. The diff between my def and their att points was huge say 18000 so theres no way they should have won.

Doing some quick math 18000/30
=600 take 600 and divide by extra army members 150 and u get about 4 points of extra attack per army member per level.

Any one have any numbers to compare?

Thats to tie my defence...so im thinking maybe they get 5 or something for every skill point you have in attack.

[Agsded]

Mana is definitely not a waste. The more mana you have, the more experience you get per day. The higher levels you get the more points you can put into attack and defense over your enemies. Plus like whisper said the upper level loot items play a huge part in battles, so you might as well go for them eventually. Trust me, you won't have time in the end to suddenly throw points into mana to get those quests.

You should spend at least 1 point into mana every level or every other level.

I always put at least 1 point into attack and defense. So there's my 3 points. Once in a while I'll put 2 into attack and 1 defense.